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Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: PonderInc on June 04, 2007, 04:43:41 PM
If you haven't been to "the chocolate place" (Kokoa) down on Brookside, you've been missing out on an incredible Tulsa treasure.  Their chocolate gives new meaning to the word "decadent" which loosely translates to: "oh-my-god-this-chocolate-is-to-die-for!" (Hint to guys: take your girlfriends here.  You'll score major points.)

Downtown denizens will be happy to know that they've finally opened a downtown location (Kokoa Kabana) at 5th and Boston in the Philcade building.  

Open for breakfast, lunch and after work (I think they're open 'til 6:00).  Great food, coffee and of course, chocolate!  (Though not the full selection of chocolate treats available at the Brookside location...enough to get you through the work day.)

My mouth is watering just thinking about it.  At what point does a craving become an addiction?
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: pmcalk on June 04, 2007, 06:57:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

Open for breakfast, lunch and after work (I think they're open 'til 6:00).  Great food, coffee and of course, chocolate!


Chocolate for breakfast--could life get any better than that?
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: Ed W on June 04, 2007, 07:42:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

If you haven't been to "the chocolate place" (Kokoa) down on Brookside, you've been missing out on an incredible Tulsa treasure.  Their chocolate gives new meaning to the word "decadent" which loosely translates to: "oh-my-god-this-chocolate-is-to-die-for!" (Hint to guys: take your girlfriends here.  You'll score major points.)



Do they offer hand-made chocolates?  I used to buy Belgian chocolate from Nouveau Chocolate, but their store on Memorial is closed.  And, yes, I want to score major points with She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed!  She had her first Belgian chocolate, looked at the rest of the family and said, "I'm NOT sharing this!"
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: Breadburner on June 04, 2007, 09:24:31 PM
It's all hand made in there....Try the baked chocolate mousse....Not to mention the guys place is clean as a whistle front to back....
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: dsjeffries on June 04, 2007, 10:49:22 PM
I've been a regular at KoKoa since it opened, and I've had probably every one of their "entrĂ©es".  I've introduced countless friends to the wonderful, minimalist environment of the shop on Brookside and I'm so excited for the new downtown location!

They even have their own case at Miss Jackson's.

http://www.kokoachocolatier.com
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: pmcalk on June 04, 2007, 10:51:49 PM
FYI--don't make the mistake of thinking "A chocolate store--great! I'll take the kids."  We made that mistake.  Great for adults, not so much for kids.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 05, 2007, 08:54:31 AM
Seriously, this place is amazing.

I wait all year for their chocolate covered blue berries.

By the bottom of one of their cups of hot chocolate (real chocolate mind you) I'm actually tired of chocolate.  

I'm glad they are doing well and are investing in downtown.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: sgrizzle on June 05, 2007, 11:10:05 AM
The effects of chocolate are also known to includes happiness and euphoria, similar to post-coitus.

Being happy or unhappy with oneself afterwards is indirectly linked to both situation.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 05, 2007, 12:21:58 PM
Some studies have actually shown that Chocolate is GOOD for the heart.

Anything in excess is bad for people.  Even too much water can kill a person...
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: TheArtist on June 05, 2007, 01:54:39 PM
Good chocolate with a high percentage of cocoa and a low percentage of sugar, is good for you.  I each a few squares of it every day.  Ask anyone who has seen me if I am fat.  

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/12/031219072217.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070518161238.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070311202024.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/04/050421234416.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060228090619.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/01/020118075002.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/10/011024073452.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061116121349.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070221101326.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/09/050929081826.htm


and I could go on and on.... Don't mess with my chocolate lol.[:P]
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: BKDotCom on June 05, 2007, 02:44:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

Don't mess with my chocolate lol.[:P]
Ha!  That's exactly what the FDA is wanting to do

see http://www.dontmesswithourchocolate.com/ (//%22http://dontmesswithourchocolate.guittard.com/%22)
and/or Candy Blog's Coverage (//%22http://www.typetive.com/candyblog/category/fda%22)
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: TheArtist on June 05, 2007, 09:02:50 PM
Well even today you have to read the label to find out how much cocoa etc. is in the chocolate.  Your typical hersheys chocolate bar might as well be poison compared to high quality, high cocoa content, chocolate. Your typical hersheys chocolate bar isn't real chocolate anyway.  I would not support them being able to call something that doesn't have cocoa butter, "chocolate".  But it wouldn't be the end of the world if they did.  Even when I go to the chocolatier I ask what the contents of each item are or for them to show me the "good stuff".  I don't do low grade chocolate. [:P]

The best hot chocolate is the kind they make in Spain. What you usually get here is hot cocoa and that is not the same as hot chocolate. When the night life picks up around 3 or 4 in the morning and everyone is snacking from one tapas bar to the next, its typical to have a cup.  Its so thick you can stand your spoon upright in it. Its like drinking a "hot steamy chocolate pudding". It will keep you awake all day until you get home from work, then go to bed, then wake up in time to start again.  [8D]

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/152618/how_to_make_spanish_hot_chocolate.html

http://www.epicurious.com/drinking/drink_views/views/230547
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: inteller on June 07, 2007, 07:26:50 PM
all these coffee shops will be doomed once starbucks comes in at the crown later this year.  it will be right at the front doorstep of the bok tower and samson plaza....cant get much more convienent than that.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: BKDotCom on June 08, 2007, 07:19:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

all these coffee shops will be doomed once starbucks comes in at the crown later this year.  it will be right at the front doorstep of the bok tower and samson plaza....cant get much more convienent than that.
Similar to the way the Crown's sammich shop has doomed the downtown sammich shops?   And, isn't starbucks coffee already served in that "connection" (outside the Halmark in the BOK).  Ya, not a full-blown starbucks
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 08, 2007, 08:22:38 AM
Not too much traffic from Boston, the OneOK, BOA Tower, First Place, Petroleum Club Tower, City Hall, the Court House, the Federal Building, and much of the rest of downtown is likely to walk past the other coffee shops to go to the Crown Plaza.  As long as they are able to get a regular crowd that makes time to stop in the AM, they will be fine (or contracts to supply coffee to offices in their buildings).

Lets hope so anyway.  Vibrant store fronts make downtown look more alive than towers full of people.  And I want both.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: TheArtist on June 08, 2007, 09:04:28 AM
Just wish we actually had "towers full of people".
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: cannon_fodder on June 08, 2007, 09:18:52 AM
Well, we have towers, and they are full of people.  Just not to capacity.  [}:)]

Most office towers downtown seem to have a decent occupancy rate.  Overall the rate is a lackluster 73.4% occupancy.  But factoring in the empty WilTell building and several nearly empty buildings, that leaves many structures downtown with pretty good occupancy.  
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20070126/ai_n17164473

Lets hope SOMETHING or someone picks up downtown.  The market added 10,400 new jobs last year in the Tulsa area, but apparently none took up office space downtown.  Certainly at 73.4% no one is considering building any new structures.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: sgrizzle on June 08, 2007, 09:45:03 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

all these coffee shops will be doomed once starbucks comes in at the crown later this year.  it will be right at the front doorstep of the bok tower and samson plaza....cant get much more convienent than that.



Coffee shops like starbucks don't reach that far. There are two starbucks just on the NW side of 71st & Garnett.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: Conan71 on June 08, 2007, 10:11:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

all these coffee shops will be doomed once starbucks comes in at the crown later this year.  it will be right at the front doorstep of the bok tower and samson plaza....cant get much more convienent than that.



Starbucks can [use your imagination].
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: ttownclown on June 20, 2007, 02:04:32 PM
Had a dessert there today, first time --- and it was darn good!  I asked the girl behind how business has been so far and she responded that it has been pretty busy.  I hope they are able to stick around...
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: sgrizzle on June 20, 2007, 02:52:15 PM
I haven't eaten there but picked up some chocolate-coated espresso beans as a gift the other day.
Title: Kokoa Chocolatier - Downtown!
Post by: MJ on June 20, 2007, 04:56:29 PM
Someone above mentioned Nouveau Chocolates which used to be in a terrible location at 16th and Memorial.  They are now in downtown Broken Arrow at 205 S Main.  They are worth the drive!