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Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: bugo on May 14, 2007, 02:13:05 AM
Not sure if this is the right forum...but I'm looking for a picture of the route markers for the Cimmaron Turnpike before it was US 412.  Rumor is the signs had a horse on them.  Now the road is simply signed as US 412, but before 1988 the road was unnumbered.  I'm looking for a picture of a sign from back then.
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: AMP on May 14, 2007, 11:45:27 PM
http://roads.tulok.net/s2.html

These folks may know of a source.
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: Matthew.Dowty on May 15, 2007, 01:29:58 PM
That road only opened in 1975 and I don't remember that.  Now about 15 years ago the whole route out from Tulsa to Woodward and beyond was branded "The Cimarron".  

Some of these brown signs are still up out west and yes they do have a horse on them I believe.
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: mspivey on May 15, 2007, 02:58:16 PM
"I'm on the turnpike 412 mile marker 16" Where am I?
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: dbacks fan on May 15, 2007, 03:02:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mspivey

"I'm on the turnpike 412 mile marker 16" Where am I?



The exit for Hallet, Oilton, and Jennings?
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: AMP on May 15, 2007, 10:36:22 PM
If the signs are still up, I will take a photo of one and post it this weekend when I travel to Hallett along the Cimarron Turnpike.
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: MichaelBates on May 16, 2007, 12:07:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Transport_Oklahoma

That road only opened in 1975 and I don't remember that.  Now about 15 years ago the whole route out from Tulsa to Woodward and beyond was branded "The Cimarron".  

Some of these brown signs are still up out west and yes they do have a horse on them I believe.



A similar signing scheme (in red, I think) was used to mark the "Northwest Passage" route connecting OKC to the Panhandle and Colorado.

And if I recall correctly, "The Cimarron" signs featured a silhouette of a cowboy on a bronco. It looked like it might have been modeled on a Frederic Remington bronze.

On a related topic, the Oklahoma Transportation Authority needs a new, clearer scheme to sign turnpikes. The lettering with the name of the turnpike is too small to be legible at highway speeds. Maybe they could use a two or three letter abbreviation in big letters: CRK for Creek, IND for Indian Nations, CHI for Chickasaw. They wouldn't need special signs for turnpikes which also have an Interstate or U. S. Highway number.
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: bugo on May 16, 2007, 12:38:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Transport_Oklahoma

That road only opened in 1975 and I don't remember that.  Now about 15 years ago the whole route out from Tulsa to Woodward and beyond was branded "The Cimarron".  

Some of these brown signs are still up out west and yes they do have a horse on them I believe.



I saw one of these today on 64/412 east of Enid.  These were used along the entire turnpike?
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: bugo on May 16, 2007, 01:00:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBates
On a related topic, the Oklahoma Transportation Authority needs a new, clearer scheme to sign turnpikes. The lettering with the name of the turnpike is too small to be legible at highway speeds. Maybe they could use a two or three letter abbreviation in big letters: CRK for Creek, IND for Indian Nations, CHI for Chickasaw. They wouldn't need special signs for turnpikes which also have an Interstate or U. S. Highway number.



I think all the turnpikes should be numbered.  The Indian Nation would make a dandy extension of US 169 (with a duplex with US 75 between the Creek Turnpike and I-40, and a short duplex with the Creek between Memorial and 75.  The Muskogee could be numbered OK 11, or given a new number like 41.  The Chickasaw would get a 3 digit state route number, or a number-letter designation such as 1A.  The Creek would be I-644 (rumored to be actually happening).  The Kilpatrick would be I-440.  HE Bailey spur would be an extension of OK 4.  The Stillwater spur of the Cimmaron would be US 412Y, since the signs point to the "Stillwater Y" westbound.
Title: Old Cimmaron Turnpike signs
Post by: Matthew.Dowty on May 16, 2007, 08:24:47 PM
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I saw one of these today on 64/412 east of Enid. These were used along the entire turnpike?


Not just the Turnpike portion, even the tax supported portion west of Interstate 35.  At least to Enid and I think all the way to Woodward.

I am opposed to replacing the Turnpike names with numbers.  The names make them somewhat unique.  Just like I wish Tulsa would continue the street naming system that ends about where the 1960s style development of the city starts.

For example:  "I live at the corner of South 89th East Avenue and East 88th Street."