Sign said, "Gas Prices Suck!" but my light was on and since rolling around Nova Scotia last summer, $3.00 is a deal.
Nothing new: pull in, fill up, ride off - $15 bucks traded for another 150 miles on my odometer.
Not too bad for "Sucking".
But that charged a few spare synaps with the mission of defining "Suckdom", as pertaining to the price of gasoline at the pump, but about that time the girl - out of the blue, and front of the dirt pile, previous known as the Metro Diner - leans in and say's she saw where gas was going to hit $7/per by late summer.
Really, 7 bucks?
I remembered Jim losing more then a few employee's at the Diner due to gas hitting $3.
A sudden jump to $7 might be a good definition of Gas Prices Sucking - not that that would force me to ponder a Metro Bus Pass or start smoking off-brand cigarettes - but because of the effect this would have on Mom & Pop's and the employee's who can no longer afford to get to work.
A quick Google search for a horse's mouth offered this:
"This year is certainly shaping up to be one in which consumers will likely see high gasoline prices throughout the summer months," - The federal Energy Information Administration
Gasp! Those Fed guy's are amazing.
Alright...I guess, we're going to likely see higher prices, but that pleads the question, "What can the man in the street, running on E do about it?".
Back to Google:
• Shop Non-Brand Name Gas Stations: Most non-brand name gas stations use the exact same product as the brand names. Save a few cents every gallon getting a very similar product.
No way, bit ago three of us topped-off at a No-Name in Claremore and had to have our top ends rebuilt - Mom's for a burger or a one-off flyrod but not a gallon of gas - and besides there was something fishy about the diction.
So after calming down from having just been reminded of the Bad Gas Ordeal, the girl shrugs and say's she just keeps an eye on the signage and whips in when the price is right.
(I often wonder what I would do without her, even if she does watch a bit too much tv.)
Back to Google:
On the local front I found a site posting price's that is updated by comsumers, presumably on their way to somewhere, and not just driving aound looking for cheap price's to post about on the site:
http://www.tulsagasprices.com/
That led to finding a National site posting price's with state by state links:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/states/OK.shtml
I'll cap this later, gotta split, jdb
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Originally posted by jdb
• Shop Non-Brand Name Gas Stations: Most non-brand name gas stations use the exact same product as the brand names. Save a few cents every gallon getting a very similar product.
Unless you come across a crooked retailer, this is absolutely true. The only thing that makes Texaco different from Conoco different from Citgo different from Shell, etc. is the "proprietary blend" of additives (detergents and such) that they add to the basic gasoline and use as a marketing tool. Gasoline is gasoline and all must conform to basic octane and detergent standards.
Being a capitalist economy, the gas wholesalers and retailers are going to charge whatever the market will bear. I don't take much stock in all the recent explanations about refinery down time and switching to seasonal blends. If they don't think the public will pay $3 a gallon, we wouldn't have the current prices.
I don't think prices will ever fall much below $3 again without government intervention, until the driving public dumps their gas hog trucks and SUVs and significantly decreases demand. As long as the public continues to "adjust" to higher prices, gas prices will continue to rise.
This was on television news earlier in the week. I've excerpted it, so follow the link for the full story. These techniques obviously work for cars with manual transmissions, and I'd hesitate before attempting them in traffic. But then again, I prefer riding a bicycle rather than driving.
http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=126884
Saving Gas With Extreme Driving
KOTV - 5/10/2007 10:00 PM - Updated 5/11/2007 1:51 PM
...Friday afternoon and Jeff Townsley is beginning his drive home from work. Forty-two miles lie between his east Tulsa office and his Okmulgee home, but he's not dreading the trip. In fact, every time he gets behind the wheel, he sees it as his chance to stick it to OPEC. And he says you can, too.
"So many of these tactics and techniques are so basic and so simple that all it requires is good vehicle maintenance and slowing down," hypermiler Jeff Townsley said.
Jeff's what's known as a hypermiler, he's determined to squeeze the highest gas mileage he can out of his Honda Civic. And just two blocks into the trip, he starts saving money by shifting to neutral.
"See, we've got a red light down here, there's not much of a reason to go after, we're just gonna shut the car off," said Townsley.
Yep, he's turned the motor off, but kept the battery power on, and he's coasting toward the entrance ramp to U.S. Highway169. It's a trick he tries at every stoplight.
"Ha, lookee there, we've got a green light," Townsley said.
..."Now everybody's passing us. That's fine," he said. "Is that the way it always is?" Thompson asked.
"That's the way it always is," replied Townsley. "When people are giving you hand signals and honking at you, you just grin at 'em because hey, you can get all mad and you're driving a car capable of 40 miles per gallon and you're getting 23, I know you are, hey, I'm havin' a good day, I'm pushing 50."
...I know what you're thinking; sure, he's got a hybrid. But when that car was in the shop last month, Randy drove his wife's plain old Honda Civic to work, and using hypermiling techniques, he got over 60 miles per gallon.
By the way, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol says coasting downgrade in neutral or with the clutch disengaged is illegal. Text
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Originally posted by Steve
...until the driving public dumps their gas hog trucks and SUVs and significantly decreases demand...
Yeah, thing is I want everyone else to do this so I can continue to drive my gas hogging pickup truck when the price goes down.[}:)]
Seriously, I am now considering trading the pickup for a hybrid. They got me at 2.88 per Gal. Filled up last night and it was 67.00. That p*ssed me off.
The retailer at the end of the hose makes the least of anyone.....And don't forget about the fuel tax added in....Plus some states tax are a percentage not a flat tax like ours is.....
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Originally posted by SteveThe only thing that makes Texaco different from Conoco different from Citgo different from Shell, etc. is the "proprietary blend" of additives (detergents and such) that they add to the basic gasoline and use as a marketing tool. Gasoline is gasoline and all must conform to basic octane and detergent standards.
Unless it's changed, Tulsa has to buy more expensive gasoline from refineries along the Gulf because of a deal we cut with the EPA over our dirty air.
The refineries we have here sell our cheaper gas to cleaner communities that dont have refineries that dirty their air.
Catch-a-twenny-two...
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Originally posted by Ed W
This was on television news earlier in the week. I've excerpted it, so follow the link for the full story. These techniques obviously work for cars with manual transmissions, and I'd hesitate before attempting them in traffic. But then again, I prefer riding a bicycle rather than driving.
http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=126884
Saving Gas With Extreme Driving
KOTV - 5/10/2007 10:00 PM - Updated 5/11/2007 1:51 PM
...Friday afternoon and Jeff Townsley is beginning his drive home from work. Forty-two miles lie between his east Tulsa office and his Okmulgee home, but he's not dreading the trip. In fact, every time he gets behind the wheel, he sees it as his chance to stick it to OPEC. And he says you can, too.
"So many of these tactics and techniques are so basic and so simple that all it requires is good vehicle maintenance and slowing down," hypermiler Jeff Townsley said.
Jeff's what's known as a hypermiler, he's determined to squeeze the highest gas mileage he can out of his Honda Civic. And just two blocks into the trip, he starts saving money by shifting to neutral.
"See, we've got a red light down here, there's not much of a reason to go after, we're just gonna shut the car off," said Townsley.
Yep, he's turned the motor off, but kept the battery power on, and he's coasting toward the entrance ramp to U.S. Highway169. It's a trick he tries at every stoplight.
"Ha, lookee there, we've got a green light," Townsley said.
..."Now everybody's passing us. That's fine," he said. "Is that the way it always is?" Thompson asked.
"That's the way it always is," replied Townsley. "When people are giving you hand signals and honking at you, you just grin at 'em because hey, you can get all mad and you're driving a car capable of 40 miles per gallon and you're getting 23, I know you are, hey, I'm havin' a good day, I'm pushing 50."
...I know what you're thinking; sure, he's got a hybrid. But when that car was in the shop last month, Randy drove his wife's plain old Honda Civic to work, and using hypermiling techniques, he got over 60 miles per gallon.
By the way, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol says coasting downgrade in neutral or with the clutch disengaged is illegal. Text
It's a neat thought, but turning the engine off means no power steering and no power brakes. Just in neutral you get those two but you lose some of your defensive driving abilities.
The guy's a moron for coasting in neutral or shutting the engine off while the vehicle is still moving.
I'm a pretty big hyper-miler, but I would never do something like that. My Insight shuts the engine off automatically when stopped at a stop light (which makes sense), but never anytime else.
But not driving like a jackrabbit and making sure your tires are inflated properly is something I do all the time, and it makes a big difference.
I get about 57 miles per gallon around town (52-54 with the A/C on) and 62-64 on the highway.
"Ever notice that anyone going slower than you is an idiot, but anyone going faster is a maniac?" - G Carlin
Hyper-milers are those colorful characters on the road that every loves to hate. They should be mandated to place an orange roadcone on the hood of the car so everyone knows in advance and can start switching lanes in an orderly fashion.
Bucking the system: earn 2 pts.
Screwing with the pattern and flow: lose 4 pts.
Turning off motor on any roadway, except a downhill stretch in the middle of the dessert with noone else insight, is illegal for a reason. Should merit an "Actual Physical Control" citation.
(Like bears screwing in the woods: they don't make a sound unless someone's around o hear them)
Conserving 2oz of petrol: earn 2 pts.
Causing everyone else to burn .4 extra gallons -from lighting up the tires to go screaming by you: lose all accumulated pts. to date.
Creating a situation that incites "pancakes" kinda anger: which has been linked to Road Rage, and known to the State of California* to lower ones higher level of consciousness: lose 3 pts.
Spend any time at all doing the math to determine milage: get a life! Small Carbon footprints are not bragging rights. Just like recycling, it's a given - you either do or you don't, and besides anything you accomplish will be off-set twenty fold by the creep nextdoor.
Keeping score is for sports.
Have flamesuit can haul butt,
jdb
* Primer on unsustainable mentalities.
"This process is also strongly affected by the opinions of others, which can cloud our ability...".
http://www.ananda.org/Meditation/support/articles/higherguidance2.html
Unleaded in Texas is $2.79 today, same as it was on Tuesday.
i'm guessing that most of you just commute here around town. I could tell you how to get around for $1 a gal and 30 mpg, but most people aren't interested.
I ride a scooter. 100 MPG. I say let gas go to $4/gallon. I drove a Ford Focus across Germany last year and it cost $5.92/gallon. We have it made at $3/gal. We need our cars to get smaller, and more people to use efficient motorcycles and motorscooters. They are the norm in the rest of the world. Until we as a people change our over consumptive habits, we'll never get ahead of this energy problem.
Who killed the electric car?
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Originally posted by RLitterell
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Originally posted by Steve
...until the driving public dumps their gas hog trucks and SUVs and significantly decreases demand...
Yeah, thing is I want everyone else to do this so I can continue to drive my gas hogging pickup truck when the price goes down.[}:)]
Seriously, I am now considering trading the pickup for a hybrid. They got me at 2.88 per Gal. Filled up last night and it was 67.00. That p*ssed me off.
I'm in the same boat. I need a pick up, they are handier than a shirt pocket when you need to move stuff around and I can also grab parts around town for my company if I happen to be out on a sales call or having lunch near where we need a part picked up.
I've given the hybrid, or something more fuel efficient a thought or two, but I'd have a car payment again, and I've enjoyed a no car payment "holiday" for about 2 1/2 years. I've got a daughter starting college just over a year from now, so cash flow is a good thing!
Fuel up now, the price will be going up another 10-cents in the coming week. Plus hurricane season starts in two weeks. There's lots of jitters in the oil market. $4.00 a gallon fuel is very near. As for the gasoline prices overseas it must be remembered that 75% of the price on the pump overseas is all tax. They tax gasoline very heavy. They also have good public transportation systems there where as one does not need to drive as much. Here in the USA our whole lifestyle is based on the car. Gasoline is like food we have to have it to carry on with our day-to-day living.
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
Gasoline is like food we have to have it to carry on with our day-to-day living.
What's this "we" business. My life doesn't have to revolve around cars. There are advantages to working from home, and living within walking distance of a grocery store.
Conan - do some research on the hybrid before you seriously consider buying one. I considered the Ford Escape Hybrid when I looked to buy a new car last year and was not impressed overall.
Many sources complain that a hybrid has MORE carbon emissions than a conventional car due to the extra components that are required to manufacture (batteries, dual drive train, engine and motor, etc.), the components often contain hazardous materials, and the vehicles have a much shorter life expectancy than an internal combustion only vehicle (newer technology, dual systems means 2 things to break, etc.). Couple with reliability concerns (new technology and all) and relatively little cost savings (I dont drive enough to recoup the extra cost) I was persuaded to buy a sound traditional car.
I'd love to get a reliable all electric vehicle that had a 100-200 mile range. I hope it would save me money. Then again, with the pollution from coal plants (damn hippies hating everything from new coal plants to clean energy like Nuclear all making us use old dirty plants instead) and the inefficiencies involved (coal transportation, 35% efficiency at the power plant, transmission loss, loss while charing batteries, and then 40% efficiency in the car itself) I may not be reducing pollution anyway.
Bastards. All not having easy answers. I'll guess I will keep feeding the oil monster for a while yet.
ps. Not all electric cars are for pansies anymore. A company called TESLA in California has come out with a roadster that does 0-60 in 4.0 seconds flat. Beating the 9-11 and Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano off the line. 250 miles in a 4 hour charge at less than 2 cents per mile cost.
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How powerful is the acceleration? A quick story to illustrate. A favorite trick here at Tesla Motors is to invite a passenger along and ask him to turn on the radio. At the precise moment we ask, we accelerate. Our passenger simply can't sit forward enough to reach the dials. But who needs music when you're experiencing such a symphony of motion.
http://www.teslamotors.com/
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Dear god I want one.
Do like I did: Buy a *used* hybrid. Let someone else eat the depreciation.
I bought mine for $10,000 with less than 15,000 miles on it. I've driven it 60,000 miles since. I figure I've already saved more than $1,500 in gas with it. And it's paid for.
Yeah, I've heard that stuff about it taking more energy to build one, that making the battery takes nickel, which is mined, etc., etc.
Except that:
-- Toyota and other car manufacturers are developing batteries that don't require nickel.
-- Toyota and Honda buy back the batteries for recycling if they crap out (under warranty, of course).
-- The additional load the electrical assist takes up makes the main gas engine last longer -- to the tune of 400,000 miles plus. Also, the energy recapturing in the brake system allows the brake pads to last muuuuuuch longer.
-- Any new technology takes quite a bit of energy to produce. But that energy drops in each successive year because of streamlining and innovation. If you halted the production of new products because it takes additional energy, it would grind innovation to a halt.
And if we have something big to haul, which happens a couple times a month, we just use Gretchen:
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"What's this "we" business." - the poster formally known as Neptune.
It's a general term that generally applies to the masses. Obviously there are people on the fringe - or way out there in orbit - that defy inclussion.
I spent a decade in that group: but gave it up due to mental health issues.
jdb
Pretty good reason to NOT go out and buy a scoot just for the sake of a few bucks at the pump:
"...motorcyclist is dead Monday...stopped to make a left turn... driver of a Mustang hit the motorcyclist from behind...motorcyclist died at the scene."
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=127268
You might want to stay in a cage if:
You listen to talk radio during your commute.
You can't pass a sobriety test, sober.
You've thought of buying a cellphone earpiece.
You carpool with three other people.
You have ever trusted anyone else on the road, ever: to follow the rules, hold their lane, or to not doing anything stupid.
Or you want to roll around wearing a baseball cap.
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=127265
David Brenner suggested we were approaching pollution backwards: we should be making the particles LARGER, so that they can't it up our nose.
I see conserving fossil fuels the same way: It ain't gonna happen until we run out of fossil fuels, so we might as well drive a big donkey SUV - putting a foot in it at every chance.
Then when there's no more gasoline, we switch over to the nedxt best - electric.
Life Apes Video Game?
Only way to get the Sims to start using the train or subway is to bulldoze the roads.
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Originally posted by jdb
"What's this "we" business." - the poster formally known as Neptune.
It's a general term that generally applies to the masses. Obviously there are people on the fringe - or way out there in orbit - that defy inclussion.
I spent a decade in that group: but gave it up due to mental health issues.
jdb
I'm not mentally challenged. Did I say not? What I meant to say was, it's challenging to be mentally challenged.
Who said that?
Just because I HAVE 3 cars, doesn't mean I have to drive them. That 2 of them get a reasonable 30 MPG, the newest gets 22, and I don't commute and don't have to use a car everyday, is a reasonable combination. Decent gas mileage, limited everyday use, works for me. Not like I live in the South 40, not anymore.
I may feel the crunch in a couple of weeks, taking a trip minus the illicit drugs. But hey, what's money good for if you don't spend some of it?
nep
"Just because I HAVE 3 cars, doesn't mean I have to drive them." - N
Okie's are said to have multiple vehicles. Most of them tagged.
Every true Okie has at least one on blocks.
Been here, some 10 years, (Hmmm, right about the time I became a retard) and thus have collected an '81 shorty, Sunrader RV, my sled, and a '57 restoration project - up on blocks - still on the farm.
Taking a trip, eh?
Do tell, details, destination, one way?
Inquiry mind(s), jdb
NOTE: Staying home for the day to eat bean burro's and nap on the couch may result in a gas surplus.
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Originally posted by jdb
Taking a trip, eh?
Do tell, details, destination, one way?
Inquiry mind(s), jdb
He, no way. I like pickin and grinnin, don't know that I could do that forever though. Eureka Springs and countrified points north. Going laking, shopping, showboatin, and barefootin with the locals. Giggin optional, billy-bob teeth mandatory, so I'm told.
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Going laking, shopping, showboatin, and barefootin with the locals.
My wife and I got married in Arkansas because she didn't have to wear shoes there.
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Originally posted by Steve
Unless you come across a crooked retailer, this is absolutely true. The only thing that makes Texaco different from Conoco different from Citgo different from Shell, etc. is the "proprietary blend" of additives (detergents and such) that they add to the basic gasoline and use as a marketing tool. Gasoline is gasoline and all must conform to basic octane and detergent standards.
Speaking of crooked retailers, here's what passes for gasoline in Missouri: http://www.ago.mo.gov/lawsuits/2002/gasplus110702.pdf (Skip to Statement of Facts)
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Originally posted by Ed W
By the way, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol says coasting downgrade in neutral or with the clutch disengaged is illegal. Text
It's illegal because the suspension doesn't work like it is designed to when you are coasting in neutral, and it's easier to lose control - especially in poor weather or with a slightly slick road. Cops can tell when you are coasting in neutral just by the angle at which your car sits with respect to the road.
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Originally posted by runderwo
Cops can tell when you are coasting in neutral just by the angle at which your car sits with respect to the road.
I call BS. There is no way a cop can tell what gear I am in unless he surmises it by by accel or deceleration.
When a car is coasting it is in a state of slow deceleration. If coasting downhill it could be simply maintaining its speed. In which case, there would be no difference in the angle from rest other than the forces of wind - which would be the same if going 55mph under power or in neutral.
Not to mention, my suspension is independent of my drive train on my high tech Ford Taurus. It even works when the car is off and sitting in my driveway. It works when I coast on the highway or roll to a stop, in nearly any gear!
What if I drive a stick shift? Does my suspension stop working when the clutch is engaged? No shifting downhill or in adverse weather?
I had a 1992 Buick Park Ave. that would roll forever while in gear. There was no engine drag at all. If you popped it into neutral you felt no difference. But a cop could tell from the OUTSIDE and somehow this had an effect on my suspension?
I call BS.
I've been known to coast a bit in my 89 honda accord 5spd.
Oil Insiders say gasoline will hit $4.00 a gallon before this year is out. The oil companies are driving up the prices, they found a gold mine.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by runderwo
Cops can tell when you are coasting in neutral just by the angle at which your car sits with respect to the road.
I call BS. There is no way a cop can tell what gear I am in unless he surmises it by by accel or deceleration.
When a car is coasting it is in a state of slow deceleration. If coasting downhill it could be simply maintaining its speed. In which case, there would be no difference in the angle from rest other than the forces of wind - which would be the same if going 55mph under power or in neutral.
Not to mention, my suspension is independent of my drive train on my high tech Ford Taurus. It even works when the car is off and sitting in my driveway. It works when I coast on the highway or roll to a stop, in nearly any gear!
What if I drive a stick shift? Does my suspension stop working when the clutch is engaged? No shifting downhill or in adverse weather?
I had a 1992 Buick Park Ave. that would roll forever while in gear. There was no engine drag at all. If you popped it into neutral you felt no difference. But a cop could tell from the OUTSIDE and somehow this had an effect on my suspension?
I call BS.
me too, that is BS, you have to be heavy on the throttle to see a nose dip up or down (and have really crap suspension)
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Originally posted by sauerkraut
Oil Insiders say gasoline will hit $4.00 a gallon before this year is out. The oil companies are driving up the prices, they found a gold mine.
I hate to be THAT GUY, but the insiders arent saying that yet. There are talking heads speculating what it will hit $4, but the actual insiders are the ones buying fuel for trucking companies and airlines months in advance.
Futures are not trading in that range yet - so I'd have to say no one is willing to put their money where their mouth is if actual insiders are saying that. If they believed $4 gas was coming in the next 3 months, futures would be trading at a three month discount to $4/gal or $3.95 or so. (of course gasoline futures markets are less developed than crude, aviation or heavy petroleum (ship fuel) markets... but still a decent indication).
Either way, I've taken a 'roll with the punches' approach. I can drive less, but I cannot effect the aggregate price increase caused by every middle class mom with an only child driving a suburban 4 blocks to soccer and you Earth haters driving in from BA everyday in your Lincoln Continentals. [:P]
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by runderwo
Cops can tell when you are coasting in neutral just by the angle at which your car sits with respect to the road.
I call BS. There is no way a cop can tell what gear I am in unless he surmises it by by accel or deceleration.
Maybe BS, but fact is they write tickets for it. I haven't gotten one around here yet though. I'm not talking about the nose pointing up or down, but the way wind affects the car. If the motor is not pulling, wind has its way with the car and it doesn't sit level on the road.
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Originally posted by runderwo
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by runderwo
Cops can tell when you are coasting in neutral just by the angle at which your car sits with respect to the road.
I call BS. There is no way a cop can tell what gear I am in unless he surmises it by by accel or deceleration.
Maybe BS, but fact is they write tickets for it. I haven't gotten one around here yet though. I'm not talking about the nose pointing up or down, but the way wind affects the car. If the motor is not pulling, wind has its way with the car and it doesn't sit level on the road.
Some say that Broken Arrow is a speed trap, but I'd never got a ticket from BAPD.
No disrespect was meant Runder. If you ever get or hear of someone getting a ticket for that I wold like to know how. I'd fight it for sure!
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Originally posted by mr.jaynes
Some say that Broken Arrow is a speed trap, but I'd never got a ticket from BAPD.
The speed trap thread is here:
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6638
$3.19 this morning. I saw $3.29 at the Shell on 33rd W. Ave. at I-244 last night.
I think I saw some vaseline jars sitting on top of the pumps.
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Originally posted by Conan71
$3.19 this morning. I saw $3.29 at the Shell on 33rd W. Ave. at I-244 last night.
Got you beat --
$3.36 for reg unleaded at 21st & Lewis.
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Originally posted by runderwo
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
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Originally posted by runderwo
Cops can tell when you are coasting in neutral just by the angle at which your car sits with respect to the road.
I call BS. There is no way a cop can tell what gear I am in unless he surmises it by by accel or deceleration.
Maybe BS, but fact is they write tickets for it. I haven't gotten one around here yet though. I'm not talking about the nose pointing up or down, but the way wind affects the car. If the motor is not pulling, wind has its way with the car and it doesn't sit level on the road.
again, if your car does that with just wind then your suspension is **** and it shouldnt be on the road....body roll from wind? give me a break. not to mention the fact it isn't windy all the time.
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$3.36 for reg unleaded at 21st & Lewis.
AAA is reporting today the
average price to be $3.18 in Tulsa, when the
cheapest ive found is $3.19. ($3.29 was my unofficial, non-scientific drive-to-work observation average).
This is not the first time AAA has under-reported high gas prices locally (unless they actually found someone selling for less than $3).
$3.15 at Kwick Stop 77 Tulsa - South Mon
7:18 PM 1115 e 61 street (61 south Peoria)
As of this AM: - $3.18
Flying J, 121 N129th E Ave
www.gasbuddy.com
http://www.tulsagasprices.com/index.aspx?&area=Tulsa%20-%20Central&area=Tulsa%20-%20East&area=Tulsa%20-%20NE&area=Tulsa%20-%20North&area=Tulsa%20-%20NW&area=Tulsa%20-%20SE&area=Tulsa%20-%20South&area=Tulsa%20-%20SW&area=Tulsa%20-%20West
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Originally posted by MichaelC
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Originally posted by jdb
Taking a trip, eh?
Do tell, details, destination, one way?
Inquiry mind(s), jdb
He, no way. I like pickin and grinnin, don't know that I could do that forever though. Eureka Springs and countrified points north. Going laking, shopping, showboatin, and barefootin with the locals. Giggin optional, billy-bob teeth mandatory, so I'm told.
Eureka:
Be sure to grab lunch at the tiny restaurant next to the cat store (Oasis? maybe)