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Not At My Table - Political Discussions => National & International Politics => Topic started by: cannon_fodder on April 11, 2007, 03:56:21 PM

Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: cannon_fodder on April 11, 2007, 03:56:21 PM
Whatever you think of Israel politically, you have to admire their organization and efficiency militarily.  A Continental Airlines flight out of NYC failed to make contact with the Israeli air traffic controllers so it was intercepted by 4 IAF fighters 5 miles out from Israeli air space.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1176152772518&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Did we even get planes in the air after 3 planes had already hit?

I just thought that was pretty amazing and wonder if we have learned from our past mistakes or if our response would be a lack thereof should this tactic ever be tried again.
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: sgrizzle on April 11, 2007, 03:59:33 PM
The 9/11 planes weren't coming from 4,000 miles away. That is a lot of time to plan.

Either way, Israel keeps a lot more military on "alert" than we do.

Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: Conan71 on April 11, 2007, 04:12:23 PM
That's only natural when the map your neighbors have hanging on the wall has a large bullseye painted right over your country.

Sorry I couldn't find the appropriate image to illustrate my point: (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/051108_051114/051110_IranIsrael_vl.widec.jpg)
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: DM on April 11, 2007, 04:15:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Did we even get planes in the air after 3 planes had already hit?


I dont really consider this fair. They had a lot more time to get their planes in the air. Plus pre-9/11, I wonder if they would have any intercept planes in the air.

Plus, I do beleive we did have a plane in route to intercept Flight 93. I could be wrong, but I thought I remember hearing that we did have planes in route.
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: dbacks fan on April 11, 2007, 04:52:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by DM

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Did we even get planes in the air after 3 planes had already hit?


I dont really consider this fair. They had a lot more time to get their planes in the air. Plus pre-9/11, I wonder if they would have any intercept planes in the air.

Plus, I do beleive we did have a plane in route to intercept Flight 93. I could be wrong, but I thought I remember hearing that we did have planes in route.



Israel has, to the best of my knowledge, had military jets in the air and at the ready since the 50's. I think that the Israeli Army is the security for their airports as well. With all of the wars and battles over there since WWII it make sense that they could easily intercept a commercial jet quickly.

As for Flight 93 I think there were Air Force planes en route.
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: Conan71 on April 12, 2007, 09:03:52 AM
What would it cost for them to put in a 911 system anyhow.  What did we spend on ours in Tulsa? [;)]
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: sgrizzle on April 12, 2007, 09:47:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

What would it cost for them to put in a 911 system anyhow.  What did we spend on ours in Tulsa? [;)]



Depends if you want 911 or E911.
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: Conan71 on April 12, 2007, 11:10:00 AM
E911 is sort of like getting my #4 combo super-sized, right?
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: cannon_fodder on April 12, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Good points, the situation was not a mirror of ours but I but their response is still impressive in my opinion.
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: iplaw on April 12, 2007, 02:02:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

That's only natural when the map your neighbors have hanging on the wall has a large bullseye painted right over your country.

Sorry I couldn't find the appropriate image to illustrate my point: (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/051108_051114/051110_IranIsrael_vl.widec.jpg)

I think you were looking for this:

(http://www.imagehost.ro/pict//12220457461e82d92e272.jpg)
Title: No 911 in Israel
Post by: iplaw on April 12, 2007, 02:34:51 PM
Actually, this is the bottom of the picture you were looking for.

(http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2005/10/26/iran-israel-inside2.jpg)