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Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 09, 2007, 05:46:13 PM
Ok, my CB interfering neighbor finally moves out along with his Rottweiler (a clap ensues). I have a large backyard but a year ago I had to build a smaller perimeter fence just so my smaller dogs could go outside without the Rotty jumping the waist-high chainlink fence and attacking them.  

FINALLY!  I can let my animals roam free in my own backyard along with my young son. Then two weeks later, I go out in my backyard and lo and behold, the new neighbors move in.  What walks around the corner of the house?  A Purebred Pitbull with a pinch collar and lots of anger towards me.  They called the dog off and put it in their sunroom which it then continued to attempt to take my name of Rowdy away from me.

I thought surely the next neighbors would not put me in the same position as the other and now this.  I guess it's time to strap a large knife to one of my trees up high in case I ever need to use it.  I can't discharge a firearm and I am not sure bearspray would work anyway.  Talk about bad odds...
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Breadburner on April 09, 2007, 05:53:14 PM
Why can you not discharge a firearm....?
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Johnboy976 on April 09, 2007, 06:09:51 PM
My brother's neighbor has these really annoying dogs that yap. We aren't talking small ones, either. He considered using a BB Gun to prevent any further annoyance from them.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: jdb on April 09, 2007, 07:46:29 PM
Sucks, light at the end of the tunnel turns out to be a speeding locomotive.

Best deal is a face to face with new guy, describe the hornets nest he's just moved into and hope he's willing to set up a win win solution.

Then sit, wait, watch, bite finger nails...

If new guy tells you where to get off, then you got several options: take animal control aside and hatch a plan, or flip a special biscuit over that waist-high chain link.

Course, for a thousand bucks you could build a fence tough enough to protect Rowdy Jr., your pups and a certain reputation.

Good luck man, jdb


Breadburner - mighty close to being a loaded question...play nice.

Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 09, 2007, 08:07:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Johnboy976

My brother's neighbor has these really annoying dogs that yap. We aren't talking small ones, either. He considered using a BB Gun to prevent any further annoyance from them.



Well, it finally happened.  The guy let his Pit out of the sunroom and it charged the fence.  He then ran over there and quickly grabbed it and I then asked the guy what he was going to do about keeping his Pit from coming over my fence and attacking my kids or dogs. His reply?  "It won't happen."  Then I said, "Yeah, I bet."  He then said in a rude manner, "don't worry about it".  At that point I got angry and told him having a bad attitude at this point wasn't going to help matters and that he got way off on the wrong foot as a new neighbor by shunning what happened.  What's going to happen next time?  

I don't necessarily agree with the Pit hysteria, but when I see an animal charge me in the way this one did and the way it wanted a piece of me through their sunroom, I have to be concerned about a stupid 3.5 foot chain link fence that separates it from me and my family. It got me angry because the guy says "don't worry about it" yet he is dragging this animal back to the house and it is wearing a pinch collar on top of it.  If he was so sure of his dog, then he should have let it prance around the backyard and he wouldn't have to drag it back in the house.  It makes no sense and unless this dog does something, I have no legal grounds to do anything.

The drama in my neighborhood ensues....
[B)]
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 09, 2007, 08:11:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jdb

Sucks, light at the end of the tunnel turns out to be a speeding locomotive.

Best deal is a face to face with new guy, describe the hornets nest he's just moved into and hope he's willing to set up a win win solution.

Then sit, wait, watch, bite finger nails...

If new guy tells you where to get off, then you got several options: take animal control aside and hatch a plan, or flip a special biscuit over that waist-high chain link.

Course, for a thousand bucks you could build a fence tough enough to protect Rowdy Jr., your pups and a certain reputation.

Good luck man, jdb


Breadburner - mighty close to being a loaded question...play nice.





Yeah we had our "talk". [:)]
I hate to start off with a new neighbor this way but I am tired of never using my yard because someone else's dog might go over the fence and kill two of mine and/or attack my son. I should be able to use the yard I pay for.  Instead, I have a smaller yard within the yard.  It's stupid and I am tired of it.  I have had quotes of $5500.00 to put in a privacy fence in my yard from three different fence companies. It looks like I have no choice but to get the fence-expensive or not.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: waterboy on April 09, 2007, 08:24:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

quote:
Originally posted by jdb

Sucks, light at the end of the tunnel turns out to be a speeding locomotive.

Best deal is a face to face with new guy, describe the hornets nest he's just moved into and hope he's willing to set up a win win solution.

Then sit, wait, watch, bite finger nails...

If new guy tells you where to get off, then you got several options: take animal control aside and hatch a plan, or flip a special biscuit over that waist-high chain link.

Course, for a thousand bucks you could build a fence tough enough to protect Rowdy Jr., your pups and a certain reputation.

Good luck man, jdb


Breadburner - mighty close to being a loaded question...play nice.





Yeah we had our "talk". [:)]
I hate to start off with a new neighbor this way but I am tired of never using my yard because someone else's dog might go over the fence and kill two of mine and/or attack my son. I should be able to use the yard I pay for.  Instead, I have a smaller yard within the yard.  It's stupid and I am tired of it.  I have had quotes of $5500.00 to put in a privacy fence in my yard from three different fence companies. It looks like I have no choice but to get the fence-expensive or not.



How about using a cattle type electric fence?
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 09, 2007, 08:38:23 PM
That would be great except for the kiddies and the other small dogs that may inadvertently touch it.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Johnboy976 on April 09, 2007, 09:27:45 PM
Teaches them a lesson... you know, that one where touching what seems to be harmless will end up killing you. That's got to be in one those episodes of Sesame Street, right?
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: jdb on April 09, 2007, 10:35:10 PM
How about using a cattle type electric fence?

Not 100%.

Privacy fence is the only good, citizen option.

Myself, I'd sit out back on a nice day, taking my time cleaning side arms,  until the thing came bounding over the fence and then that would be that - which might merit a BBQ/Beer party in said space twenty minutes later.

Don't guess you like to whittle on large pieces of wood using a "quailty" knife?

Sorry you got stuck with another tough guy.

Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: NellieBly on April 10, 2007, 09:17:14 AM
I would start a campaign against the dog. Every time it barks, call the cops. If the dog isn't fixed, call animal control and report it. Owners of unfixed dogs must have a breeders license. Etc. Call the owner of the home if it's a rental and report the vicious dog. He may be the one sued if something should happen since he rented the home to someone who owns a vicious dog.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Breadburner on April 10, 2007, 09:32:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

I would start a campaign against the dog. Every time it barks, call the cops. If the dog isn't fixed, call animal control and report it. Owners of unfixed dogs must have a breeders license. Etc. Call the owner of the home if it's a rental and report the vicious dog. He may be the one sued if something should happen since he rented the home to someone who owns a vicious dog.



Yup...Nellie gives the best on this so far...
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: grahambino on April 10, 2007, 10:13:15 AM
purchase a rocking chair & shotgun.
[8D]
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: tulsa1603 on April 10, 2007, 11:03:21 AM
I had a neighbor who got two huge Mastiffs, but of course, he was thoughtful enough to bring them around to all the neighbors when they were puppies, so they would know us all and not bark or be aggressive towards us.  Which helped, because they were pretty sweet natured towards us.  OF course, they still barked at random anyway at all hours of the day and night so I was thankful when they moved away.  I think if you have aggressive dogs like that, it's your duty to acclimate them to your neighbors, though I still wouldn't trust them.  

You might try Fenceco for a fence bid.  They were half the price of a few others on a big fence project i recently had installed.  Also, if you haven't considered building it yourself, it's not that bad as long as you have a auger to drill the post holes for you.

Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: NellieBly on April 10, 2007, 11:30:57 AM
Mastiffs aren't really by nature aggressive.
At least none that I have met. They are more into slobbering and sleeping than attacking.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Conan71 on April 10, 2007, 12:04:19 PM
Gun cleaning on the back porch is not a bad deterrent.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 10, 2007, 12:56:02 PM
What's brandishing a firearm mean then?  I am sure someone has a right to whip out a rifle and clean it on the backporch but what about running around crazy-like waving it in the air?
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 10, 2007, 01:25:02 PM
I think you should get something bigger to eat his dog when it comes over the fence...maybe an alligator or a bengal tiger.

...nothing like the food chain to solve a problem.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: South_Tulsan on April 10, 2007, 02:42:37 PM
Sad situation. Whatever you do, don't poison the dog.

If it were me, I'd put my house on the market, or pony up for the privacy fence.

Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: TulsaFan-inTexas on April 10, 2007, 03:03:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I think you should get something bigger to eat his dog when it comes over the fence...maybe an alligator or a bengal tiger.

...nothing like the food chain to solve a problem.



Gotta love that idea. I hear that tigers like dog meat. A snack of rotweiller or pit bull would last a tiger for a couple of days.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Conan71 on April 10, 2007, 03:43:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

What's brandishing a firearm mean then?  I am sure someone has a right to whip out a rifle and clean it on the backporch but what about running around crazy-like waving it in the air?



Running around crazy-like with a gun works even better than cleaning it, unless your neighbor has a bigger gun and is crazier.

I don't have anything against pit bulls, just rednecks with pit bull mentalities that train them to be aggressive.

My next door neighbor has a big, gentle mutt dog which obviously has some pit in it.  I Never have a problem with it other than it barking all night if the owner goes out of town.  I mentioned the problem to her in a rational way several weeks ago.  

Her solution was to give us a box of the Benadryl strips that dissolve in your mouth.  Now when it happens, I wrap one up in a piece of shaved ham or cheese and go give him a treat.  After about 30 minutes the barking stops and both the dog and I get a good night's sleep.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 10, 2007, 08:49:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

What's brandishing a firearm mean then?  I am sure someone has a right to whip out a rifle and clean it on the backporch but what about running around crazy-like waving it in the air?



Running around crazy-like with a gun works even better than cleaning it, unless your neighbor has a bigger gun and is crazier.

I don't have anything against pit bulls, just rednecks with pit bull mentalities that train them to be aggressive.

My next door neighbor has a big, gentle mutt dog which obviously has some pit in it.  I Never have a problem with it other than it barking all night if the owner goes out of town.  I mentioned the problem to her in a rational way several weeks ago.  

Her solution was to give us a box of the Benadryl strips that dissolve in your mouth.  Now when it happens, I wrap one up in a piece of shaved ham or cheese and go give him a treat.  After about 30 minutes the barking stops and both the dog and I get a good night's sleep.



Oh my gosh, now that is hilarious. At least they ok you doing that!
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Tulsa Twister on April 11, 2007, 07:25:29 PM
Sorry youre havin to deal with this again........

But next time the dog charges the fence while youre in your backyard, as soon as the charge ensues, drop everything youre doing, and employ an aggressive look of your own and charge in his direction and while in mid-stride yell something like "Ill meet ya halfway, man-to-dog" and we'll settle this once and for all. Once you've decapitated the dog, or viciously disemboweled the varmint, as soon as the neighbor comes out, calmly rise to your feet, dust yourself off, and remove from your hip-pocket the sign that says "Beware of Man". As you depart, pause, then look over your shoulder and wipe your mouth and muster up a look that says "Im ready to do this again, if necessary".
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 11, 2007, 11:18:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tulsa Twister

Sorry youre havin to deal with this again........

But next time the dog charges the fence while youre in your backyard, as soon as the charge ensues, drop everything youre doing, and employ an aggressive look of your own and charge in his direction and while in mid-stride yell something like "Ill meet ya halfway, man-to-dog" and we'll settle this once and for all. Once you've decapitated the dog, or viciously disemboweled the varmint, as soon as the neighbor comes out, calmly rise to your feet, dust yourself off, and remove from your hip-pocket the sign that says "Beware of Man". As you depart, pause, then look over your shoulder and wipe your mouth and muster up a look that says "Im ready to do this again, if necessary".



Very poetic and something to consider.  I did have a nice-sized knife out there just in case.  The dog did give me the look and it wasn't to  dance.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: AMP on April 12, 2007, 02:02:40 AM
I have trained and had German Shepherds for pets and protection, but they were all professionally bred and trained.  Having such an animal without proper obedience training is a recipe for disaster.

Always raise your arms over your head and become as large as possible when confronting an animal.  They see size and typically will turn and run if another being rises up much higher than they.  Not sure if it works on Alligators or Sea Creatures, but most land based Mammals other than Grizzley Bears, I trust.  

Ammonia and or household Bleach sprayed along the fence line will keep them from marking that spot and they will be more inclined to move to the front portion of their property boundaries. Remember dogs have a tremendous sense of smell, so any type of chemical such as that is a major issue with their smellers.  

Call a few dog obedience training schools, I would think they would also be a wealth of information regarding your situation.
Title: What are the Odds Part Deux
Post by: Rowdy on April 12, 2007, 07:31:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

I have trained and had German Shepherds for pets and protection, but they were all professionally bred and trained.  Having such an animal without proper obedience training is a recipe for disaster.

Always raise your arms over your head and become as large as possible when confronting an animal.  They see size and typically will turn and run if another being rises up much higher than they.  Not sure if it works on Alligators or Sea Creatures, but most land based Mammals other than Grizzley Bears, I trust.  

Ammonia and or household Bleach sprayed along the fence line will keep them from marking that spot and they will be more inclined to move to the front portion of their property boundaries. Remember dogs have a tremendous sense of smell, so any type of chemical such as that is a major issue with their smellers.  

Call a few dog obedience training schools, I would think they would also be a wealth of information regarding your situation.




Thanks for your input on the subject.  I just don't see anything out there that can stop an angry purebred pitbull that simply wants to attack what it sees and the only thing stopping it is some waist-high chain link.