Alright, here is the story:
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=124283
Anyone got any ideas as to what the business moving in might be, and why they thought Pryor was the best place?
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Originally posted by Rowdy
QuoteOriginally posted by Johnboy976
Alright, here is the story:
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=124283
Anyone got any ideas as to what the business moving in might be, and why they thought Pryor was the best place?
PepsiCo.
I think it has to do with Aerospace. Thats my vote. Can we start a poll?
Ah, the more I look into it, this is in addition to PepsiCo eh?
why is it so secretive?
Cause this time, there really is coke in the bottle (and I'm not talking about Pepsi's competition).
I think it is a Starbuck's.
Gatorade......
Sudafed plant?
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Sudafed plant?
Maybe ... since Tulsa is #1 in allergies this year! haha
http://kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=124318
when they say it is going to bring "big jobs," i assume they mean a lot of jobs? is that what you would assume too?
Firearm manufacturing plant.
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Firearm manufacturing plant.
Oooooh! Maybe they will be manufacturing the new machine gun prosthetic leg!
I know what it is, but I probably shouldnt say yet. I'll let everyone know when I can. I can guarantee its cooler than the worlds largest Gatorade plant (in both size and purpose) if my sources are correct (90% confidence).
I nearly posted about this last week when I first learned of the project, but wasnt sure I could. Since Im still not sure, I'll be quite. I assume a few other people know since the only way I know of it is we may be doing some work on it.
Cat's been out of the bag for a year on Gatorade (Pepsico) and it's nearing completion.
CF- if you really know, drop me a PM, as I'd like to get my foot in the door if there is equipment I can get spec'd into the construction.
I work in the Pryor industrial park. I have been told that the announcement will be made next month, and that if the company name leaked out they would pull out of the deal.
One rumor here is an Anheuser-Busch brewery.
Mmmm, beer!
(http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~edkelly/simpsons-homer.duff_beer.jpg)
I wish it were Shiner.
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Originally posted by moosedaddy
I work in the Pryor industrial park. I have been told that the announcement will be made next month, and that if the company name leaked out they would pull out of the deal.
One rumor here is an Anheuser-Busch brewery.
Anheuser-Busch is going to build a plant in Oklahoma? Why? So they can only produce 3.2 beer? Doesn't state law say that is all they can produce in this backwards-alcohol state?
KOTV is saying the Pryor paper is saying it's Google maybe.
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Anheuser-Busch is going to build a plant in Oklahoma? Why? So they can only produce 3.2 beer? Doesn't state law say that is all they can produce in this backwards-alcohol state?
Oklahoma is not a backwards-alcohol state ..... the ohters are.
I hope it isn't beer, but I guess if they are going to build a plant, it might as well be here.
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Originally posted by Noodlez
KOTV is saying the Pryor paper is saying it's Google maybe.
yeah, that's wher they'll be making all the new search engines... google my arse...
I made a call it's Google...
meth factory
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Originally posted by Breadburner
I made a call it's Google...
Why would Google need a manufacturing plant? They dont manufacture anything.
Here's a hint:
Computer floors will be installed.
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Originally posted by Double A
Here's a hint:
Computer floors will be installed.
I hear Linux is a stable platform...
ba-dum-bum
I STRONGLY suggest anyone with two coins to rub together start buying land around Pryor. this deal is gonna be off tha hook.
Problem is I have no idea how they are going to get people to move here to work at this place.
furthermore i dont understand why tulsa couldn't score this. people will be after taylors head after this one. alll she can bring in is more call center jobs.
The news article said electricity and lots of available water. No wonder the mayor wanted water in the river soon. [:P]
Google has purchased 800 acres in MidAmerica Industrial Park.
Google is NOT what I heard. Google doesnt even really even seem to fit.
The new plant is going to be BIGGER than the Gatorade plant that is going in at 1.5 Million Square Feet. Google's corporate headquarters is just over 1 million square feet. A server farm requires about 2 square feet per server (they run server cabinets, not individual boxes). So unless Google is going into manufacturing or distribution of some kind or my sources are horribly wrong - I'd have to say probably not on Google.
Not to mention, where are they going to hire 1,000 IT technicians to work in Pryor?
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Google is NOT what I heard. Google doesnt even really even seem to fit.
The new plant is going to be BIGGER than the Gatorade plant that is going in at 1.5 Million Square Feet. Google's corporate headquarters is just over 1 million square feet. A server farm requires about 2 square feet per server (they run server cabinets, not individual boxes). So unless Google is going into manufacturing or distribution of some kind or my sources are horribly wrong - I'd have to say probably not on Google.
Not to mention, where are they going to hire 1,000 IT technicians to work in Pryor?
I work in the IT field and if they pay was right I would consider moving back to Okla. I could live in Pryor easily, and it's not that far to Tulsa or the new shopping mecca of Owasso.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Google is NOT what I heard. Google doesnt even really even seem to fit.
The new plant is going to be BIGGER than the Gatorade plant that is going in at 1.5 Million Square Feet. Google's corporate headquarters is just over 1 million square feet. A server farm requires about 2 square feet per server (they run server cabinets, not individual boxes). So unless Google is going into manufacturing or distribution of some kind or my sources are horribly wrong - I'd have to say probably not on Google.
Not to mention, where are they going to hire 1,000 IT technicians to work in Pryor?
just a backgrounder, google buses their workers to work. amazon currently has a shuttle from tulsa to coffeyville. pryor doesnt have to provide the workers....but you know they would prefer they live there and not tulsa.
It's Google....
so wouldnt the county assessor have information on the sale of the land?
All the articles Ive read on their data center they recently built at The Dalles, Oregon said Design LLC was the purchaser of the land there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/14/technology/14search.html?ex=1307937600&en=d96a72b3c5f91c47&ei=5090
i cant speculate on how large those buildings are, but they easily pass as manufacturing type activities.
I pray this, Lord: DON'T LET IT BE WALMART!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen.
Well, to stick my foot in my mouth...
http://tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?articleID=070406_1_A1_hAdat63056&breadcrumb=Employment
Google has announced *interest* in a data center in the park. No details were released (wont even say how serious they were thinking about it).
Now I have to wait and see if my sources were correct on ANOTHER development going in out there or if they were just dead wrong.
So let me get this straight. Tulsa is going to house the people, but Pryor is getting all the taxes. Anyone else see a problem? I mean great, a lot of people will want to move to Tulsa and then be transported to Pryor five days out of the week (assuming this is what is done)... but WHY?! Did they install a huge server out in Pryor?
Think Google will do free wi-fi for Pryor?
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
So let me get this straight. Tulsa is going to house the people, but Pryor is getting all the taxes. Anyone else see a problem? I mean great, a lot of people will want to move to Tulsa and then be transported to Pryor five days out of the week (assuming this is what is done)... but WHY?! Did they install a huge server out in Pryor?
It bears repeating again, cities get very little property tax, except for infrastructure bond issues. Sales taxes fund cities, so more people, more taxes. It's that simple.
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
So let me get this straight. Tulsa is going to house the people, but Pryor is getting all the taxes. Anyone else see a problem? I mean great, a lot of people will want to move to Tulsa and then be transported to Pryor five days out of the week (assuming this is what is done)... but WHY?! Did they install a huge server out in Pryor?
this is why I said start buying up land around Pryor. people wont want to commute that far forever.
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
So let me get this straight. Tulsa is going to house the people, but Pryor is getting all the taxes. Anyone else see a problem? I mean great, a lot of people will want to move to Tulsa and then be transported to Pryor five days out of the week (assuming this is what is done)... but WHY?! Did they install a huge server out in Pryor?
this is why I said start buying up land around Pryor. people wont want to commute that far forever.
yeah, cause no way in hell is some IT guy gonna commute 30 minutes to tulsa when he can live in the mecca of pryor just 5 minutes away...
from the midamerica webby... "Also, a significant number of workers commute to jobs out-of-county each day, according to the 2000 Census. In 2000, 4,789 workers commuted from Mayes County to jobs in other counties, an increase of 42.8% from 1990. Thus, an employer also has an opportunity to attract these workers. And our workforce travels to work nearly 26 minutes per day, which is above the state average. However, over 36% of the workforce travels 30 minutes or more"
midamerica is a tulsa asset and that is how it is marketed to companies...
i'd commute a long way for a long time to get a job w/ google.
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Originally posted by grahambino
i'd commute a long way for a long time to get a job w/ google.
just a reality check, this wont be the Seattle google, it will be the Pryor google. Just like coffeyville amazon is not the seattle amazon. i dont think working for them here will be all its cracked up to be.
being close to a major level3 hub doesnt hurt either.
Swake, please explain to me what they do with "Local Income Tax."
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
Swake, please explain to me what they do with "Local Income Tax."
Find me a city that assesses local income tax in Oklahoma.
Cities are allowed to have an income tax in Oklahoma, but I don't think any do.
So Tulsa becomes the bedroom community? Work in Pryor and spend your money in Tulsa. Doesn't sound like a bad deal.
You can figure out the concessions Google was able to demand. I just hope whatever they do/build there doesn't become"old tech" too soon.
You're right... no local income tax. I guess living in three other states has made me think that Oklahoma would have been similar.
Reading in the Tulsey World a few days ago I learned that north of Pryor on highway 69 is the largest venue in four states.
If Google casts up a mountain, perhaps they can also build a grove, and rear up an image of Baal too: then everyone that trusts in the shadow of Egypt can flock to it.
Ezekiel 11:2
".......Son of man, these are the men that devise mischief, and give wicked counsel in this city: (v.3) Which say, It is not near; let us build houses: this city is the caldron, and we be the flesh."
Build images, build houses, build forts, build temples. Let us build, taking no thought nor sabbath for any of the workers: because MEN say the judgement written is not near.
What???!!!
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/10793367/detail.html
Link to news story related to new Google farm in western Carolina. This may provide insight into what may happen in Pryor soon.
I wonder if the average salary will be similar here. I can't imagine that the cost of living in western N. Carolina is much different from here. If the salaries are close this will be a nice infusion of decent jobs. If this happens -- great.
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yeah, cause no way in hell is some IT guy gonna commute 30 minutes to tulsa when he can live in the mecca of pryor just 5 minutes away...
from the midamerica webby... "Also, a significant number of workers commute to jobs out-of-county each day, according to the 2000 Census. In 2000, 4,789 workers commuted from Mayes County to jobs in other counties, an increase of 42.8% from 1990. Thus, an employer also has an opportunity to attract these workers. And our workforce travels to work nearly 26 minutes per day, which is above the state average. However, over 36% of the workforce travels 30 minutes or more"
midamerica is a tulsa asset and that is how it is marketed to companies...
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Good point, Bruno!!!! It is not uncommon in larger MSA's for workers to travel an hour or more to and from work each day. Tulsa's entertainment, shopping, and dining businesses stand to potentially gain from any Mid-America expansion. Additionally, Tulsa industries related to activity going on at the Mid-America park stand to gain from the increased customer base. Tulsa is a regional trade hub.
i think its either budweiser or google data base.
Target
Best Buy distribution center. HA!!! Yeah right.
rhymnrzn - what in the hell are you talking about?
Also, on a point of order, Google is not based in Seattle, its based in Mountain View, California.
As per the possible work available in Pryor, it will be just like working for Google anywhere else. They take *VERY* good care of their people and expect Google to be a part of their lifestyle. Work hard, play hard kind of thing:
http://www.google.com/corporate/culture.html
I'm sure most of the people would like in Tulsa. IF they did or did not, what's good for our region is good for Tulsa. Though having Google occupy one of the old buildings downtown and actually USE it would simply rule.
As per Google or Anheuser, I'd prefer Google's great paying jobs. But lets get greedy and hope for both.
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Its also probably worth noting from the NC article:
"The state plans to give the company $4.8 million as a part of a total incentives package that could reach more than $100 million."
Wow. It will take 10 years of payroll just to infuse that much money back into the state. I hope Oklahoma didnt get suckered into a $100MILLION package.
perhaps you mean data center
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i think its either budweiser or google data base.
Has anyone heard anything new?
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
Has anyone heard anything new?
"The Grand River Dam Authority agreed Thursday to double the capacity of a planned MidAmerica Industrial Park substation being built at the request of an anonymous potential tenant."
Tulsa World (//%22http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070413_1_A13_spanc30735%22)
you dont need that much juice to brew watered down beer. its google.
google understands there is a huge untapped market of IT professionals that dont want the hussle and bussle of california and just want a nice place to raise a family. watch other companies follow suit.
The two shell companies are named on bodies of water in New South Wales. Pretty reasonable they are related. Best to use geographic names like that for companies that will be "thrown away" later.
Both are incorporated by "Corporation Service Company" last year. This is a company google has used in the past.
Chances are, a full data center(not a googlepop). Too bad someone with a brain didn't lure them downtown, there is a much higher fiber presence.
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Originally posted by Johnboy976
So let me get this straight. Tulsa is going to house the people, but Pryor is getting all the taxes. Anyone else see a problem? I mean great, a lot of people will want to move to Tulsa and then be transported to Pryor five days out of the week (assuming this is what is done)... but WHY?! Did they install a huge server out in Pryor?
Your absolutely wrong, its the exact opposite infact..
Suburbs have been housing tulsa workers for years. We are a younger couple with a child and everyone I know with kids DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN TULSA, reason being are the schools, 2nd being the crime.
Besides, there's lots of room out there for new subdivisions, and a lake within 5 minutes. Pretty countryside, soon to be paved.
As for the 'Tulsa Asset' aspect, that's our regionalism at work. Not necessarily bad in this case, but the money and effort applied to things non-Tulsa around here (by Tulsa's leadership) is absurd. Remember LaFortune's Vice-Mayor Steve Sewell (who, at the same time was Economic Development Director for Owasso)? Our Boards, Authorities and Commissions are stocked full of similar interets, much of which is paid for by Tulsans.
If our leaders took a Tulsa first position, we'd have a darn good city here. Instead, it seems, they spend much of their time, and a lot our resources peeling off what they can from Tulsa.
Not trying to be unneighborly, but I'm also tired of hearing our Mayor's sole mission is to increase taxes (she calls it 'revenue') because all aspects of the City are underfunded.
I wonder why.
Short rant. Somewhat topical.
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Too bad someone with a brain didn't lure them downtown, there is a much higher fiber presence.
I think they are more interested in cheaper electricity from the GRDA (with a portion of that being the green kind - hydroelectric).
yeah, unlike Poorly Servicing Oklahomans (PSO) who plans ANOTHER rate increase in may. 8%? pancakes! the natural gas that they use to power their generators hasn't went up 8%, its actually went down! I hope the corp commission says no. greedy bastards.
They want the rate increase to fund clean coal experiments on their plants in Eastern Oklahoma. Everyone wants to live 'green' but nobody wants to pay for it.
I'll take either Google or Anheuser. But certainly it would have been nice to get the data center downtown. But I think Google builds new...
And the winner is..... GOOGLE
http://www.kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=126467
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Originally posted by ricecake
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
Too bad someone with a brain didn't lure them downtown, there is a much higher fiber presence.
I think they are more interested in cheaper electricity from the GRDA (with a portion of that being the green kind - hydroelectric).
GRDA using hydro is nice, but they seem to be expanding themselves well beyond their original purpose....
Google Makes It Official -- It's Coming To Pryor
Google To Make Pryor Plans Official Next Week
Pryor - The City of Pryor is about to get a big boost from the Internet giant Google.
Wednesday morning, officials from the company officially announced plans to invest 600-million dollars in the area to build a massive data center that will house scores of computers.
The facility will eventually employ upwards of two hundred people with an average salary of 48-thousand dollars. Construction is set to begin shortly with the first phase completed by next summer.
Just eight years old, Google employs some 12-thousand people worldwide.
$600M investment is great for NE oklahoma. Too bad it is a data center only but 200 IT jobs will make a real impact on the area that has had a surplus of IT help.
I think my property value in Bixby went up $1.43 this year due to this news.