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Title: jury duty
Post by: sgrizzle on April 02, 2007, 08:21:55 AM
Will the forum bias my views as a juror? I see nothing about it in my little juror how-to book.
Title: jury duty
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 02, 2007, 09:22:34 AM
If you are a regular reader of TulsaNow, you know too much. They will never pick you for a trial.
Title: jury duty
Post by: tulsa1603 on April 02, 2007, 09:37:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Will the forum bias my views as a juror? I see nothing about it in my little juror how-to book.


The forum would only cause a problem if you were hearing a case about a developer tearing down something old or any case about the Tulsa World.

I had jury duty about a year ago.  I hated the entire process (waiting in that dungeon of a basement) until I was actually selected for a jury, then I really enjoyed it.  Have fun with it!  :)
Title: jury duty
Post by: grahambino on April 02, 2007, 10:18:41 AM
ive yet to be picked for jury duty.

Title: jury duty
Post by: MichaelC on April 02, 2007, 10:36:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tulsa1603

I had jury duty about a year ago.  I hated the entire process (waiting in that dungeon of a basement) until I was actually selected for a jury, then I really enjoyed it.  Have fun with it!  :)



Ditto.  

The worst part of jury duty is hanging around in the pool room.  Stop by the library.
Title: jury duty
Post by: sgrizzle on April 02, 2007, 11:01:16 AM
I'm just glad I got a 4 day week and not by the feds who keep you "on call" for months.
Title: jury duty
Post by: cannon_fodder on April 02, 2007, 11:17:42 AM
Tulsa has one of the worst jury selection methods ever.  Many states/counties have gone to a one and out system.  You come in for one day and if you are not selected for a jury you are excused for another year (at least one).  If you get selected for a jury, you're off for at least 2.

For instance, I have a law degree.  I will NEVER, EVER be chosen for a jury.  Ever.  But I will be required to sit and waste a week of my time as pool after pool rejects me.

And even for the people that MIGHT be selected, its an enormous waste of time to sit day after day because they cant get their stuff together.
Title: jury duty
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 02, 2007, 12:17:09 PM
I loved the time in jury duty. I was rejected by the lawyers only once and sat in the jury room for three days before we were released.

I found a guy I went to Rogers High School with and we got a group of people in the corner to engage in wonderful conversations. I met a guy who sold some stuff I needed for my business. We had two women who told hilarious stories about their husbands. Another guy surveyed us all on our views from everything to local politics to our favorite places to visit.

I impressed them all with my PDA that also serves as an universal remote by changing the channel on the television to "The Price is Right". After that every time someone got called, we all said "Come on down".

It was fun to make a bunch of new friends.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Conan71 on April 02, 2007, 02:30:49 PM
It's been about 10.5 years since the last time I got called for Jury duty.  They seated me on one jury, a personal injury case.  We went to lunch, came back and found they'd settled it.

I got called up for another jury (criminal) either later that afternoon or the following morning, and was on that trial through the end of the week.  Sure beat the monotony of sitting down in the pool room.

I don't mind if I get called again, I just don't want to sit around twiddling my thumbs.
Title: jury duty
Post by: MichaelC on April 02, 2007, 04:49:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

It was fun to make a bunch of new friends.



I don't think I made many friends.  I'm a relatively quiet guy who likes to stay out of the spotlight, but when that jury I was on went to deliberations I jumped up on that stump and held it for 8 hours.
Title: jury duty
Post by: inteller on April 02, 2007, 04:51:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

It's been about 10.5 years since the last time I got called for Jury duty.  They seated me on one jury, a personal injury case.  We went to lunch, came back and found they'd settled it.

I got called up for another jury (criminal) either later that afternoon or the following morning, and was on that trial through the end of the week.  Sure beat the monotony of sitting down in the pool room.

I don't mind if I get called again, I just don't want to sit around twiddling my thumbs.



i got off that trial where the guy killed his girlfriend and her boyfriend and then killed the eye witness.  i just told the judge there was no way I could consider anything less than guilty.  I got out.
Title: jury duty
Post by: sgrizzle on April 02, 2007, 07:13:54 PM
I didn't mind the jury room too bad. They had the Price is Right and I could get on the internet.

Two of my favorite things.

Court is fun too. Like watching "law and order" at half speed.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Noodlez on April 02, 2007, 10:45:45 PM
I had jury duty about a year ago, was well neato once I got picked after 3 days, spend a week on the trial.  However what amazed me was at the main entrance to the courthouse they have all that security yet down in the basement you could freely walk in with anything and the guards seemed rather bothered if you asked if they needed to check anything.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Steve on April 04, 2007, 04:17:21 PM
I have served on Tulsa Co. juries twice, both times were within 10 months of each other, back in the late 1990's.  I have not been called for jury duty since then.

The first time was a drunk driving case.  A one-day affair.  The second time I was on a child molestion trial, and that trial lasted 3 days.  That was a very uncomfortable and painfull trial, but I am glad I did my part to serve our justice system.  I think every U.S. citizen should serve on a jury at least once.  They would gain much insight and appreciation for our justice system with the experience.
Title: jury duty
Post by: sgrizzle on April 04, 2007, 09:04:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Noodlez

I had jury duty about a year ago, was well neato once I got picked after 3 days, spend a week on the trial.  However what amazed me was at the main entrance to the courthouse they have all that security yet down in the basement you could freely walk in with anything and the guards seemed rather bothered if you asked if they needed to check anything.



They are "working on" this. They searched my backpack and wanded me.
Title: jury duty
Post by: sgrizzle on April 04, 2007, 09:45:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

I have served on Tulsa Co. juries twice, both times were within 10 months of each other, back in the late 1990's.  I have not been called for jury duty since then.

The first time was a drunk driving case.  A one-day affair.  The second time I was on a child molestion trial, and that trial lasted 3 days.  That was a very uncomfortable and painfull trial, but I am glad I did my part to serve our justice system.  I think every U.S. citizen should serve on a jury at least once.  They would gain much insight and appreciation for our justice system with the experience.



This is my first time called. Got a case that may be in the paper in the morning. Definitely an experience.
Title: jury duty
Post by: TUalum0982 on January 26, 2008, 01:34:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

I have served on Tulsa Co. juries twice, both times were within 10 months of each other, back in the late 1990's.  I have not been called for jury duty since then.

The first time was a drunk driving case.  A one-day affair.  The second time I was on a child molestion trial, and that trial lasted 3 days.  That was a very uncomfortable and painfull trial, but I am glad I did my part to serve our justice system.  I think every U.S. citizen should serve on a jury at least once.  They would gain much insight and appreciation for our justice system with the experience.



This is my first time called. Got a case that may be in the paper in the morning. Definitely an experience.



I am 25 years old and I have yet to be called for jury duty!
Title: jury duty
Post by: sgrizzle on January 26, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

I have served on Tulsa Co. juries twice, both times were within 10 months of each other, back in the late 1990's.  I have not been called for jury duty since then.

The first time was a drunk driving case.  A one-day affair.  The second time I was on a child molestion trial, and that trial lasted 3 days.  That was a very uncomfortable and painfull trial, but I am glad I did my part to serve our justice system.  I think every U.S. citizen should serve on a jury at least once.  They would gain much insight and appreciation for our justice system with the experience.



This is my first time called. Got a case that may be in the paper in the morning. Definitely an experience.



I am 25 years old and I have yet to be called for jury duty!



I was 30 and it was my first time called.

Did make the paper too.
Title: jury duty
Post by: mr.jaynes on January 27, 2008, 10:59:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TUalum0982

quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

I have served on Tulsa Co. juries twice, both times were within 10 months of each other, back in the late 1990's.  I have not been called for jury duty since then.

The first time was a drunk driving case.  A one-day affair.  The second time I was on a child molestion trial, and that trial lasted 3 days.  That was a very uncomfortable and painfull trial, but I am glad I did my part to serve our justice system.  I think every U.S. citizen should serve on a jury at least once.  They would gain much insight and appreciation for our justice system with the experience.



This is my first time called. Got a case that may be in the paper in the morning. Definitely an experience.



I am 25 years old and I have yet to be called for jury duty!



Never been called for jury duty, never even been considered for it.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Steve on January 27, 2008, 01:31:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Will the forum bias my views as a juror? I see nothing about it in my little juror how-to book.



Probably not, but you shouldn't read or participate in any discussion here if it deals with the trial you are involved with.

I have been on juries twice, the last time was at least 10 years ago.  Haven't been called since.

My first jury was a drunk driving case.  I don't remember a lot about it.  My second jury was a man being tried for 4 counts of child molestation/abuse against a 5 year old boy.  I don't know which was worse, having to sit through all the sordid details and facts in the courtroom with the defendant and parade of flaky witnesses, or then having to discuss the intimate sexual details with a jury room full of strangers.  It was definately an experience I will never forget.

I think every U.S. citizen should have to serve on a jury at least once in their lifetime.  It is one of the most basic foundations of our governmental system.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Townsend on January 28, 2008, 09:02:23 AM
Just got done with my fourth time on jury duty in Tulsa County.

Have yet to sit through a trial.

This last time the convicted murderer chose life without parole so after a week and a day waiting for the voir dire, they released us.

I promise, you don't appreciate the way the system works if you never make it into a trial.  Maybe next time.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Conan71 on January 29, 2008, 03:20:26 PM
I was 30 when I got called the first time, that's been 12 years ago, not called since, and I've changed my voter registration whenever I've moved so they have not been mis-mailing to me.
Title: jury duty
Post by: si_uk_lon_ok on January 30, 2008, 05:06:41 AM
Do you know if its possible to get excused from jury service for life? I had a teacher at school who was part of a really nasty high profile child abuse trial that dragged on for more much longer than a month and at the end the judge excused the jury from ever having to do jury service again.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Conan71 on January 30, 2008, 11:07:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by si_uk_lon_ok

Do you know if its possible to get excused from jury service for life? I had a teacher at school who was part of a really nasty high profile child abuse trial that dragged on for more much longer than a month and at the end the judge excused the jury from ever having to do jury service again.



Unless you drop your voter registration you are still in the initial "cattle call" pool and cannot refuse to show up.

I would assume there would have to be written documentation from the judge in the instance you mentioned to be excused.

My only experience with JD was that there are not many excuses for not sitting the whole week (either on a jury or in the waiting room) once you arrive at the court house.  I think about the only two exuses they were willing to listen to the week I was on it was if you were sole care giver to a minor child or if you had a medical condition.  I told them I was going to lose a weeks worth of sales commissions, they didn't care one whit.

Even if you made blatant racial comments or said every criminal should be killed, they still would not excuse you.  Instead you would get called for jury after jury, be rejected, and be required to remain in the court house basement all week.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Townsend on January 30, 2008, 11:17:32 AM
They dropped the registered voter thing and are now using state issued ID's/driver's licenses to randomly draw the 12 angry men/women.

Much larger group.
Title: jury duty
Post by: Conan71 on January 30, 2008, 12:17:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

They dropped the registered voter thing and are now using state issued ID's/driver's licenses to randomly draw the 12 angry men/women.

Much larger group.



Now that you mention it, seems like I'd heard that.  When did it change?
Title: jury duty
Post by: Townsend on January 30, 2008, 02:06:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Townsend

They dropped the registered voter thing and are now using state issued ID's/driver's licenses to randomly draw the 12 angry men/women.

Much larger group.



Now that you mention it, seems like I'd heard that.  When did it change?



Apparently years ago.  It started with using just land owners for jury duty.  Then in '73ish voting age was reduced to 18.  The land owners said "hey, let's include all of them." and it was changed to registered voters.

 Apparently that didn't work as well as they thought it would because many of the 18ish crowd wouldn't register to vote.

That was when the state government was lobbied into using the DL/SIID to pull from.

That was a story I was told in this last adventure in jury-ing.  I was told by the jury jailer lady so I trust it.
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: Townsend on March 11, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
So a friend in Philadelphia has jury duty today and I asked what her jury pool room looked.

Her description on FB: 
QuoteHuge windows street level, flat screen tvs and vending machines that take cards...thank goodness.

Is ours still a non-wifi having dropped ceiling-ed windowless basement with questionable fire escape routes?
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: nathanm on March 11, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: Townsend on March 11, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
Is ours still a non-wifi having dropped ceiling-ed windowless basement with questionable fire escape routes?

As of late last year, yes. Some cell carriers work in the dungeon, though, so you don't have to resort to twiddling your thumbs and not doing work. ;)
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: guido911 on March 11, 2013, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: nathanm on March 11, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
As of late last year, yes. Some cell carriers work in the dungeon, though, so you don't have to resort to twiddling your thumbs and not doing work. ;)

Can't say. I have NEVER been summoned for jury duty.
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: Breadburner on March 11, 2013, 05:52:37 PM
Federal Jury pool room was pretty nice.....!
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 11, 2013, 05:54:44 PM
Quote from: guido911 on March 11, 2013, 05:32:32 PM
Can't say. I have NEVER been summoned for jury duty.


Seems like I have heard from previous lawyer friends that they felt a lawyer never would be called... but that was long ago.  How about now?  Are you exempt by being a member of the court?

Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: DTowner on March 12, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on March 11, 2013, 05:54:44 PM

Seems like I have heard from previous lawyer friends that they felt a lawyer never would be called... but that was long ago.  How about now?  Are you exempt by being a member of the court?

Oklahoma attorneys are exempt from jury duty in state court, not in federal.
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: guido911 on March 12, 2013, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: DTowner on March 12, 2013, 04:21:16 PM
Oklahoma attorneys are exempt from jury duty in state court, not in federal.

That is my understanding. But I doubt anyone would want me on their jury. Too good looking. Big distraction to the witnesses and lawyers.
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 12, 2013, 08:13:40 PM
The two times I have been a potential juror the judges knew me.  I was excused and sent back to the basement.
Title: Re: jury duty
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2013, 08:53:43 AM
Quote from: guido911 on March 12, 2013, 07:55:19 PM
That is my understanding. But I doubt anyone would want me on their jury. Too good looking. Big distraction to the witnesses and lawyers.

We can see that from your avatar....