Fox23 ran a poll asking if the City of Tulsa should have public storm shelters and the results were 90% in favor. I'm sure it would be different if the question was "do you want to pay for storm shelters?"
But what are the opinions on here?
Better yet, "Would you pay for several storm shelters, one of which would be in North Tulsa?"
Back in the 50's and 60's buildings that were capable of being shelters for various disasters had Civil Defense signs stenciled on them. I recall the Oertle's building at 26th and Memorial had these triangle designs on the outside, depicting the concrete structure was suitible for a shelter. KOKI and the Clear Channel companies are housed in that structure today. Kind of ironic them asking that question. :)
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I think if it your time, it is your time. Don't see me hanging out in a small shelter eating K Rations for a year or more.
If I die from a tornado, it's just my time to go. I can accept that. I vote no.
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Wear a Helmet and a set of racing Leathers. Most fatalities from Tornados are caused by head trauma.
We used to chase Tornados back in my younger years, we would be clad in motorcycle racing gear and stand nearby the vortex. Quite a fun activity in my youth. Wish I would of had a modern video camera then. Mike Hardy was the Tornado Chasing King in his extended Dodge Van. He had all the weather radios and knew when and where to go.
"People like that have no respect for life. Janet" Spoken by Brad in the Rocky Horror Picture show movie scene where the motorcycle riders roll by, heading to the Master's Affair party at the Grand Ball Room at Dr. Frankenfurter's Castle.
I for one would rather take my chances and see what I am up against that to cower in a container in the dark. No matter what the "Brads" in life think about it. He smoked afterwards anyway...
Would it not make more sense just to require all homes have a basement? Require that all new home construction have basements...A basement is just as effective in a twister as a storm shelter. In a F-4 or a F-5 twister the only safe place to be is below ground level since those size funnels can rip up house slabs and road pavement.
Stupid idea, public storm shelters. I hate those dumb telephone polls that Fox23 does; the questions are usually so broad or vague that a "yes or no" answer is not possible to anyone with half a brain.
The last place people need to be during an imminent tornado is driving around looking for a public storm shelter. Have your own plan and find the safest place on your own property, and hope for the best. By the time a tornado warning is declared, there is little safe time to travel to a distant shelter.
I want a house with a huge basement. I'll put a home theater in it so during tornados I can watch "twister."
I don't think I would pay for public storm shelters. Even with the advances in technology of storm tracking and radar and the spotters in the field, I don't think there is sufficient warning that a tornado is headed for your house for you to leave and get to the shelter. I mean once it forms and touches down is about what five to ten minutes? Yes once it's on the ground they can tell which way it's likely to track and warn the people ahead of it which can be eough time to go some place for shelter.
I remember the old Sears building at 21st and Yale was a fallout/bomb shelter. That's why they had to implode the building to tear it down. The underground loading dock at Southlan...... er Promenade Mall was also a shelter. I remember several friends used it during the June 8th 1974 tornados.
There are alot of new homes being built with basements here, or as I call them an upsidedown two story house. I wish that had been an option on the house we bought.
i think this would only be feasible for mobile home parks.
an ordinance requiring the owner of a MHP to provide a shelter for the residents could really help prevent injuries and death.
Did you know that Tulsa has an award-winning program on disaster-preparedness?
http://www.tulsapartners.org/
Agree that large scale public storm shelters are a bad idea. The last place for people to be during tornado conditions is driving. The bad scenario is a public shelter filling up and people being turned away to drive home (sorry folks, good luck)! Basements or storm shelters in older homes in homes is effective, but slab on grade home construction looks to be here to stay. Individual above ground safe rooms seems to be the new approach. We'll see how that goes.
Steve and grahambino make excelent points.....
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I want a house with a huge basement. I'll put a home theater in it so during tornados I can watch "twister."
There ya go! Now your thinking![:)]
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Originally posted by Breadburner
Steve and grahambino make excelent points.....
Thank you. I thought so too.
Potential violent storms are just a fact of life here in Oklahoma. If it is that much of a concern, live in a house with a basement, or construct a safe room or backyard storm shelter. Public shelters maintained by tax dollars seem rather futile to me.
Public Shelters won't work, no one will want to keep going to them for "false alarms" anyhoo, and by the time a funnel is seen heading your way it's too late to go to a public shelter. Many people would not even know where the public shelters are (even if you tell them they will forget). In the spring time many local weathermen break into TV shows and "Cry Wolf" every time a dar cloud passes by- are people supposed to keep rushing off to a shelter every time that happens? Most storms hit in the eveing after people just get home from a long day at work, who wants to rush out to a public storm shelter at that time anyhoo? I would not go to one.
Well, if anyone out there just can't live without a tornado shelter, I have a 35K square foot nuclear bunker just south of town, thanks to the cold war era. Make you a deal!