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Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Rico on March 26, 2007, 09:27:14 AM
A "Special Exception", to the zoning code, is being sought by  Tulsa Parks Department to allow for an "open air Farmers Market" at the SW corner of 6th and Peoria..

This item will be part of the INCOG meeting tomorrow 3-27-2007....

I see no reason this will not be approved..

This should be a boost to showcasing the "Big Dig" Central Park flood control project...

The Pearl District.... and just possibly...  bring a few people Downtown that normally would not be there on the weekend.

Any opinions on this ...?
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 26, 2007, 09:54:10 AM
I wonder if the parking lot is big enough to handle a large market.

I love the idea of more farmer's markets and this seems like a good location. It is close enough to steal a few vendor's from the Cherry Street Farmer's Market and allow people to shop at both for a variety yet is far enough to be on a different path to attract new customers.

I also wonder how strict they will be on what kind of booths they will allow. The Cherry Street Famer's market allows a booth that just buys exotic salts in bulk and repackages them for resale. The salt isn't local and not grown on a farm. They are a good vendor and I like their products, but it is a slippery slope. If you are too loose, the next thing you know people will start selling post cards and puppies.

Sixth and Peoria is a good place for a farmer's market, but a bad place for a flea market.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: sgrizzle on March 26, 2007, 10:32:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

The salt isn't local and not grown on a farm.



Is this fertilized salt or organic?

Do you water salt?
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 26, 2007, 11:12:58 AM
They sell many varieties of sea salt. The right salt can really improve your cooking.

Why did Sodium have Chloride arrested?
For assault.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: sgrizzle on March 26, 2007, 12:46:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

They sell many varieties of sea salt. The right salt can really improve your cooking.



So it's fished, not farmed?

What kinda bait do you use?
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: AVERAGE JOE on March 26, 2007, 12:50:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I wonder if the parking lot is big enough to handle a large market.

I love the idea of more farmer's markets and this seems like a good location. It is close enough to steal a few vendor's from the Cherry Street Farmer's Market and allow people to shop at both for a variety yet is far enough to be on a different path to attract new customers.


just fyi, the Pearl Farmer's Market will be Thursday evenings. Won't compete directly with the Saturday morning Cherry Street market. And there's plenty of parking in the general area - FCS, on-street, VFW.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: jdb on March 26, 2007, 01:13:46 PM
What kinda bait do you use?

Little glass bottles.
The salt sneaks inside then you slam the perforated lid down on the little buggers.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Breadburner on March 26, 2007, 04:32:13 PM
I had to bait the salt I caught with White Rice....That's the only thing that worked for me....
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: TheArtist on March 26, 2007, 05:14:07 PM
So are we going to have 3 farmers markets now?  Cherry street, Pearl District, and Williams Green.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: pmcalk on March 26, 2007, 08:12:24 PM
^More than three.  The former farmers market located at the Garden Center, on Wednesdays, is to be relocated at 41st & Peoria.

Ultimately, the goal is a farmers market every day, throughout the city.  Seems like they are a bit clustered toward midtown/downtown.  It would be good to have some further east, west & north.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Rico on March 26, 2007, 10:12:23 PM
Originally posted by the Artist.
quote:
So are we going to have 3 farmers markets now?


The more markets the more interest in possibly having one large..... For the YP's that live in the burbs to stop by on their way home from DT....

Then the few miserable soles that live close to the inner core would have a place to spend their paltry wages....Other than Utica Square...[8D]

The following link is to an interactive map of Farmers Markets across the Country..

Think I snagged it from the Oklahoma Sustainability website..

http://find.mapmuse.com/re1/interest.php?brandID=FARMER_MARKETS
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Rico on March 27, 2007, 07:42:19 AM
The following a short article from today's World regarding the Market.....




Neighborhood expects OK for open-air market




By MICHAEL OVERALL World Staff Writer
3/27/2007

If approved, the market will open April 5 near Centennial Park.


Organizers expect to receive permission Tuesday to open a new farmers' market in the revitalizing neighborhood near Centennial Park, east of downtown.

If approved by the City Board of Adjustment, the outdoor market will open April 5 at a parking lot adjacent to the park, near Sixth Street and Peoria Avenue. The market plans to run from 4 to 8 p.m. each Thursday until October.

Proponents believe it will promote further redevelopment of an area called the Pearl District, which has already experienced significant changes in recent years. A new townhome development continues to expand next to the park, where a newly constructed pond complements a new recreation center.

"We did a lot of research," said Leah Pickard from Sustainable Green Country, the group organizing the market. "And we found that this was an area where the residents wanted something like this."

Townhome owners and people from the nearby Kendall-Whittier neighborhood wanted the market, Pickard said, not only because will be convenient for them, but because it will draw crowds of people who will see how well the area is flourishing.


(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/rico2/PearlMarket.jpg)

Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: OurTulsa on March 27, 2007, 09:26:58 PM
I heard from one of the members of the association that they got their approval from the Board today.  The Board was quite supportive and gave them the flexibility to grow at the park.  

See ya next Thursday at the park...
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Leah Pickard on March 27, 2007, 10:21:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I wonder if the parking lot is big enough to handle a large market.

I love the idea of more farmer's markets and this seems like a good location. It is close enough to steal a few vendor's from the Cherry Street Farmer's Market and allow people to shop at both for a variety yet is far enough to be on a different path to attract new customers.

I also wonder how strict they will be on what kind of booths they will allow. The Cherry Street Famer's market allows a booth that just buys exotic salts in bulk and repackages them for resale. The salt isn't local and not grown on a farm. They are a good vendor and I like their products, but it is a slippery slope. If you are too loose, the next thing you know people will start selling post cards and puppies.

Sixth and Peoria is a good place for a farmer's market, but a bad place for a flea market.



The Pearl Farmers Market has registered with the Oklahoma Department of Agriculture as an "Oklahoma Grown" Market. What that means is this: 100% of the vendor's products are required to be grown in the state. So that person with the salts would not be able to sell in our market, most likely they were grandfathered into the Cherry St. Market. Most of our vendors at the Pearl Farmers Market are produce farmers, and five of the ten are organic farmers, so only 20% of craft/non-food items are permitted by our guidelines. And those will have to go through the board to be approved to sell at the market. All this to say we are making sure our vendors are bringing high quality food and non-food items.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Rico on March 28, 2007, 09:02:09 PM
This is all very Good News...[:D]

Anyone out there that would like to read a few articles regarding how much "Markets" can affect a community.....?

See the following...

Markets (//%22http://www.pps.org/markets%22)




Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: TheArtist on March 28, 2007, 09:41:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Leah Pickard

quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I wonder if the parking lot is big enough to handle a large market.

I love the idea of more farmer's markets and this seems like a good location. It is close enough to steal a few vendor's from the Cherry Street Farmer's Market and allow people to shop at both for a variety yet is far enough to be on a different path to attract new customers.

I also wonder how strict they will be on what kind of booths they will allow. The Cherry Street Famer's market allows a booth that just buys exotic salts in bulk and repackages them for resale. The salt isn't local and not grown on a farm. They are a good vendor and I like their products, but it is a slippery slope. If you are too loose, the next thing you know people will start selling post cards and puppies.

Sixth and Peoria is a good place for a farmer's market, but a bad place for a flea market.



The Pearl Farmers Market has registered with the Oklahoma Department of Agriculture as an "Oklahoma Grown" Market. What that means is this: 100% of the vendor's products are required to be grown in the state. So that person with the salts would not be able to sell in our market, most likely they were grandfathered into the Cherry St. Market. Most of our vendors at the Pearl Farmers Market are produce farmers, and five of the ten are organic farmers, so only 20% of craft/non-food items are permitted by our guidelines. And those will have to go through the board to be approved to sell at the market. All this to say we are making sure our vendors are bringing high quality food and non-food items.



Sooo, just where do they grow salt anyway? [;)]  Does that mean no sweets unless it locally grown sugar cane?  Guess you can do a lot with honey and raisins though.  

Which reminds me.  I think I am gonna start growing some grapes in my backyard, my own little vineyard.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Double A on March 29, 2007, 05:21:31 PM
Stevia can be grown locally as a sugar substitute.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: TheArtist on March 29, 2007, 06:00:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Double A

Stevia can be grown locally as a sugar substitute.



It illegal to be sold as a sugar substitute, it can only be sold as a dietary suppliment or in a dietary suppliment.  And why does it even sound, "hippy/tree hugger" like? lol

Speaking of sugar, anyone ever go to one of those health food stores like Wild Oats and notice how many different names they use for sugar to try and disguise that its sugar and make it sound more natury/healthy?  Sucrose crystals, crystalized cane juice, dehydrated organic cane juice, etc, etc. Wish I could remember more, but I do remember laughing a lot reading some of those labes. lol  Oooh its healthy, see there is none of that evil sugar in it. [:P]
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: matthewou on April 10, 2007, 09:24:15 PM
so did anyone actually go to the farmer's market.  It was a very cold day!  I am new to these forums so I might bring up old posts.  My fiancee's parents live at the Village at Central Park, her dad is very involved in the 6th Street Task Force and the Pearl District meetings, and this open air market was his baby.  It went great, but I learned something, get there early, things go fast.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: sgrizzle on April 10, 2007, 09:37:23 PM
quote:
Originally posted by matthewou

so did anyone actually go to the farmer's market.  It was a very cold day!  I am new to these forums so I might bring up old posts.  My fiancee's parents live at the Village at Central Park, her dad is very involved in the 6th Street Task Force and the Pearl District meetings, and this open air market was his baby.  It went great, but I learned something, get there early, things go fast.



I went, there was some discussion on a calendar entry here as well. I beat the developer and got the last loaf of honey wheat bread. Saw someone I knew from high school who was there with a KOTV truck and met the CEO of land legacy.

Also got cookies. Always sign of a good day. And yes, things were thinning out by 4:30 on an event that was supposed to run 4-8.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: AVERAGE JOE on April 10, 2007, 10:34:31 PM
Glad to hear it went well. I couldn't make it opening night, but I intend to frequent the market in the weeks to come. I'll be sure to get there early on Thursdays.
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: Conan71 on April 12, 2007, 11:07:24 AM
So will it be open tonight?
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: sgrizzle on April 12, 2007, 01:47:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

So will it be open tonight?



Yes!
Title: Farmer's Market in The Pearl District...
Post by: dsjeffries on April 13, 2007, 11:55:42 AM
I drove past by accident (I didn't know it was going on last night) and practically jumped out of my seat!  I didn't get to stop because I had to get to an appointment but I'm definitely going to!