Hooray for the Hot Dog vendor in Civic Center plaza. He left before I could finish my deadline so I wasn't able to get over there to enjoy the offering. In any case, it was refreshing to hear of a little activity there.
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Hooray for the Hot Dog vendor in Civic Center plaza. He left before I could finish my deadline so I wasn't able to get over there to enjoy the offering. In any case, it was refreshing to hear of a little activity there.
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This is how pitiful downtown is at this point, but I hear you...
lol, I no longer work downtown but this would have excited me too.
Do they offer something that wont kill you, like perhaps a soy or tofu dog? [:P]
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Do they offer something that wont kill you, like perhaps a soy or tofu dog? [:P]
Probably not. It was probably a heart attack in a bun but he could be serving s&it on a stick and I would welcome the presence of the street vendor.
It's like the preacher men in the plaza. Who cares what they are preaching. It's a nice sign of life. My favorites are the Jesus crusaders in their black robes and red bandanas that hold up signs for the bus riders to look at while king crusader spits on the mic.
I love specific types of street vendor dogs. Those very long skinny ones rule. However the big plump Sausage types are great if cooked on a hot grill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratwurst
Up North I always ate Bratwurst those big German sausages cooked over hot coals, soaked in beer first. Yummy to the max!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan%27s
My all time fav was the Chicago Dog at Der Weinersnitzel Stands. Dog, Bun, Sour Kraut, Long Sliced Kosher Dill Pickle, Tomato wedges, dog wrapped in cheese. Almost gives me a flash back munchie memory charge from the early 70's on Brookside. Believe there may of been a few thousand pot holes in that parking lot as well.
Mexican trailer at 2nd and Lewis features a Mexican Hot Dog, with mustard, mayo, ketchup, real bacon bits, shredded chedar cheese, diced jalapenos tomatoes and onions Sour Cream Salsa and what ever else you like on it that the have on board the coach. Totally different Dog.
Here are few others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog_variations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog
Watched a few episodes of Ben Matlock staring Andy Griffith, he was a Hot Dog crazed lover but nothing like this guy....
Takeru Kobayashi is the world's fastest hot dog eater.[5] In 2002 he beat his previous record by one half of a hot dog, consuming 50.5 Nathan's famous hot dogs and buns in 12 minutes. On July 4, 2006, he set a new record when he ate 53.75 in the same amount of time
http://www.wienerschnitzel.com/about.php
I miss the Der Wienerschnitzel that was at 21st & Harvard. My fave was the Polish sandwich.
Wasn't there a second or third location in Tulsa? Like somewhere out on South Peoria?
For those that haven't been the stand on 2nd and Lewis Amp is refferring to is outstanding[:P] I miss working out in that area.
Is there any place in town where one can get a good Chicago dog?
We've got plenty of Coney Islands in Tulsa but I haven't found a place with Chicago dogs yet.
Also, if this hot dog cart vendor is reading this forum, he really needs to set up shop in the Blue Dome area from about 9 p.m. to 2:30 a.m. on Friday-Saturday nights. That area, while not lacking in drunks, is seriously lacking in drunk food. Any kind of food vendor would clean up over there.
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Also, if this hot dog cart vendor is reading this forum, he really needs to set up shop in the Blue Dome area from about 9 p.m. to 2:30 a.m. on Friday-Saturday nights. That area, while not lacking in drunks, is seriously lacking in drunk food. Any kind of food vendor would clean up over there.
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Originally posted by TheArtist
Do they offer something that wont kill you, like perhaps a soy or tofu dog? [:P]
Probably not. It was probably a heart attack in a bun but he could be serving s&it on a stick and I would welcome the presence of the street vendor.
It's like the preacher men in the plaza. Who cares what they are preaching. It's a nice sign of life. My favorites are the Jesus crusaders in their black robes and red bandanas that hold up signs for the bus riders to look at while king crusader spits on the mic.
The plaza ain't so bad. I think it has tons of potential, that's why I am so disturbed by the fact that the city is in such a rush to demolish it.
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Also, if this hot dog cart vendor is reading this forum, he really needs to set up shop in the Blue Dome area from about 9 p.m. to 2:30 a.m. on Friday-Saturday nights. That area, while not lacking in drunks, is seriously lacking in drunk food. Any kind of food vendor would clean up over there.
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Apparently the hot dog vendor, or another hot dog vendor, reads this board.
There was a hot dog cart out late Saturday night at the Blue Dome. That was fast.
The 2nd and Lewis Mexican Hot Dog Vendor.
Here are a couple of photos...
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I miss the Der Wienerschnitzel that was at 21st & Harvard. My fave was the Polish sandwich.
Wasn't there a second or third location in Tulsa? Like somewhere out on South Peoria?
I liked the polish sandwich too. I remember many Der Wienerschnitzels all around Tulsa in the late 60s-early 70s. The one we always went to was at 17th & Sheridan, in the parking lot of the strip center on the east side of Sheridan. It was an A-frame building that you drove through. We used to go there at least twice a week in high school. "Der Wiener" and Burger Chef were our main off-campus lunch spots back then.
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I miss the Der Wienerschnitzel that was at 21st & Harvard. My fave was the Polish sandwich.
Wasn't there a second or third location in Tulsa? Like somewhere out on South Peoria?
I liked the polish sandwich too. I remember many Der Wienerschnitzels all around Tulsa in the late 60s-early 70s. The one we always went to was at 17th & Sheridan, in the parking lot of the strip center on the east side of Sheridan. It was an A-frame building that you drove through. We used to go there at least twice a week in high school. "Der Wiener" and Burger Chef were our main off-campus lunch spots back then.
Steve, I take it you are a Nathan Hale grad? If so what year? My brothers and I all gaduated there, 1970, 1972, 1973 and 1981.
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Steve, I take it you are a Nathan Hale grad? If so what year? My brothers and I all gaduated there, 1970, 1972, 1973 and 1981.
You betcha! Nathan Hale class of 1975 here. My brother was class of 1971. Seems like between us we have all Hale early 1970s classes covered!
Der Weiner and Burger Chef were our main lunch spots, also the Taco Bueno on 21st Street when they first opened in the early 1970s. There was also Mr. Swiss and a Taco Grande (?) I believe on 21st street. Griff's Burger Bar at the hilltop on 21st, west of Sheridan. McDonald's wasn't in our vocabulary back then, I don't recall many McDonald's in Tulsa until the 1980s. It was all Burger Chef, Sandy's, Griff's Burger Bar in those days. Or Boot's Drive-In on Sheridan or Shaw's Drive-In on Yale. For a special, rare family treat, we got a pizza from Leah's, Ken's, or Shotgun Sams, or a bucket of chicken from Johnny Harden's KFC franchise at 25th & Sheridan. Fast food was a luxury to us then, not the rule.
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Steve, I take it you are a Nathan Hale grad? If so what year? My brothers and I all gaduated there, 1970, 1972, 1973 and 1981.
You betcha! Nathan Hale class of 1975 here. My brother was class of 1971. Seems like between us we have all Hale early 1970s classes covered!
Der Weiner and Burger Chef were our main lunch spots, also the Taco Bueno on 21st Street when they first opened in the early 1970s. There was also Mr. Swiss and a Taco Grande (?) I believe on 21st street. Griff's Burger Bar at the hilltop on 21st, west of Sheridan. McDonald's wasn't in our vocabulary back then, I don't recall many McDonald's in Tulsa until the 1980s. It was all Burger Chef, Sandy's, Griff's Burger Bar in those days. Or Boot's Drive-In on Sheridan or Shaw's Drive-In on Yale. For a special, rare family treat, we got a pizza from Leah's, Ken's, or Shotgun Sams, or a bucket of chicken from Johnny Harden's KFC franchise at 25th & Sheridan. Fast food was a luxury to us then, not the rule.
Sounds like we grew up in the same neighborhood. Shopped at Shoppers Fair, Gulf Mart, the Bowman Twin and Continetal, and Oertles. My parents lived in three different houses by the MA-HU mansion from 1956 to late '99 or early 2000. I can remember as I'm sure you do when Casa Bonita was a grocery store, and Crystal's Pizza was a Bordens Cafeteria. It's funny you mentioned Ken's Pizza, my mom had the voting pecinct in the area bordered by 21st to 31st and Sheridan to Memorial, and Ken Selby lived in the area and was a teacher at Hale and worked for Pizza Hut as well. As I remember the story, and I may be wrong, but Ken wanted to buy a Pizza Hut franchise and wehen they said we don't sell them he told them that he would start his own and run all the others out of town.
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Sounds like we grew up in the same neighborhood. Shopped at Shoppers Fair, Gulf Mart, the Bowman Twin and Continetal, and Oertles. My parents lived in three different houses by the MA-HU mansion from 1956 to late '99 or early 2000. I can remember as I'm sure you do when Casa Bonita was a grocery store, and Crystal's Pizza was a Bordens Cafeteria. It's funny you mentioned Ken's Pizza, my mom had the voting pecinct in the area bordered by 21st to 31st and Sheridan to Memorial, and Ken Selby lived in the area and was a teacher at Hale and worked for Pizza Hut as well. As I remember the story, and I may be wrong, but Ken wanted to buy a Pizza Hut franchise and wehen they said we don't sell them he told them that he would start his own and run all the others out of town.
Well Ken Selby has realized his wish. Ken's Pizza has morphed into the Mazzio's chain, and Mazzio's has the lion's share of the pizza business in the Tulsa area, and has branched out into surrounding states as well. Mazzios is still owned by the original Ken, I believe.
Casa Bonita (Casa Viva today) was originally the Stockton's / Phelps / Consumer's IGA grocery store. Gulf Mart was great, sort of a 1960s version of SuperTarget. My brother worked at Oertles. (Paging Mrs. Gamboa..) We lived in the Leisure Lanes subdivision, just north of Hale High from 1961 to 1974. I remember riding my bike up to Ma-Hu and scavaging through the remnants of that house. "Scream In The Dark" Halloween haunted houses at Ma-Hu, sponsored by local radio.
Paging Mrs. Gamboa..
OMG!!! That made me laugh!!! I swear I don't think she ever sat down or left the store. My co-workers just asked what I was laughing about and all I could do is tell them it's a long story I'll explain at lunch some time. Some where I have an e-mail from I think one of the children of the caretakers that worked for Mable and Hugh.
Here is a link to the website:http://www.rootsweb.com/~oktulsa2/photogallery/mahumansion.html (//%22http://%22)
Don't forget Shotgun Sam's pizza.
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Paging Mrs. Gamboa..
OMG!!! That made me laugh!!! I swear I don't think she ever sat down or left the store. My co-workers just asked what I was laughing about and all I could do is tell them it's a long story I'll explain at lunch some time.
My older brother worked at Oertles 1969-1971. I never did and I didn't know Mrs. Gamboa personally, but I can't remember a time when I was in the store that I did not hear a page for "Mrs. Gamboa!" and for some odd reason her name emerged from the windmill's of my mind. Oertles was the store where we always bought our annual school supplies every year: Spirals, loose-leaf paper, pens & pencils, notebook binders, etc.
I know this discussion is straying rather off-topic from the original, but what the hell, they all seem to anyway. Maybe we should revive the old "What Do You Remember" discussion thread that was so popular here a while back. dbacks, search the archives for this thread and read it for a real hoot and a trip down Tulsa memory lane.
My family owned and operated the Oertle's stores. My grandparents, aunt and uncle and my parents. Ms. Gamboa, George Allen, Mr. Herb Addington were all store managers that worked different shifts.
The Jet family who owned the Canteen Corporation installed some of the first automated vending machines I had ever seen at the time in the Memorial location. Canteen was located next to Kart Ville near 15th and Sheridan. The vending machinew were the ones that the cup fell down and filled with hot coffee or hot chocolate. Had to be sure your cup fell first or your drink went down the drain. Also had the doors that opened and you choose a sandwich or pie or other fresh product. They cooked hamburgers and fries and served breakfast there as well.
We had a car wash and gas station where the What a Burger is now. For a publicity deal a man drove a convertible thru the automatic car wash, he almost got burned from all the hot water. Think he would of not done it if he knew the pain he got from it.
Ridge Bond produced most of the Television ads for the stores. His company SESI used a new camera that was made in Japan by a new company called Sony. They could shoot onsite and you did not have to go up the mountain to Channel 8 or KVOO on Brookside to produce the ads, he came right to the store and shot tape on location. Most the Radio was done by KAKC Scooter Seagraves, and KELI the Kelly family. Some on KRMG, but most on KELI. That was when the had the flying saucer building at the Fairgrounds. One of my jobs was to play the Oertle's Special recordings over the PA system using a reel to reel tape recorder. It was high tech for those days.
I worked at Oertle's for years. Started when I was 5 making small ones from big ones, breaking down products in boxes and sticking price tags on merchandise. My favorite job was stocking the pop machines in the front parking lot. Grappette was and still is my favorite soft drink in a can. I had that pop machine adjusted to where there was just a little ice in the pop when you opened it. Yummy!
We sold Water Mellon one weekend during an Oertle's Crazy Days promotion. My two cousins Danny and Richard and some other helpers sold two 40 foot semi trailers of water mellons that 4th of July weekend. Don't know how many were in there, but there were tons. Think they sold for a penny a pound that day.
Most those folks have passed away since. Richard is still alive, but Danny passed away a few years ago in Florida where he was living.
The store was unique as it was the first discount store in Oklahoma that was allowed to sell name brand goods at wholesale prices to a select group buyers club. To purchase at the wholesale price, one had to become a member, be either a business owner or an employee representative buyer of a company, union or government entity. Their business partners included David Cohen who owned David's Discount in Wichita, Kansas, Benny Naiefe in Oklahoma City who owned AMC Discount.
"Just hop in your car, and come as you are....to Oertle's the House of Name Brands."
http://www.wtv-zone.com/dpjohnson/60sdiscountstores/page2.html
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"Just hop in your car, and come as you are....to Oertle's the House of Name Brands."
Thanks for the great Oertles history, AMP. Darn you!!! Now I am going to be singing that old Oertles jingle in my head all day long! I remember the "Crazy Days" promotions too!
I remember the giant "super slide" that was out in the Oertles lot on south side for a few years. You paid 25 cents a whack to slide down on a burlap mat. There were several of these giant slides around Tulsa in the late 60s-early 70s; a fad of the times. Wasn't there also a Zuider Zee seafood restaurant just south of the Oertles building with a big windmill type facade?
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"Just hop in your car, and come as you are....to Oertle's the House of Name Brands."
Thanks for the great Oertles history, AMP. Darn you!!! Now I am going to be singing that old Oertles jingle in my head all day long! I remember the "Crazy Days" promotions too!
I remember the giant "super slide" that was out in the Oertles lot on south side for a few years. You paid 25 cents a whack to slide down on a burlap mat. There were several of these giant slides around Tulsa in the late 60s-early 70s; a fad of the times. Wasn't there also a Zuider Zee seafood restaurant just south of the Oertles building with a big windmill type facade?
There was a Zuider Zee there I think on the service road off of Skelly Drive. Here is a link to some info about them from a Dallas message board:http://www.dallashistory.org/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl?noframes;read=45083 (//%22http://%22)
I also remeber a go cart track that was where Frank's Country Inn is, and then there was another one at 41st and Memorial on the south east corner where Fred Jones LM was.
Wasn't there also a smaller version of Zuider on Sheridan Road across from Shoppers Fair? It was about where the Payless Shoes store is or was.
"Shoppers Fair, Shoppers Fair, Shoppers Fair for this stuff"
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Wasn't there also a smaller version of Zuider on Sheridan Road across from Shoppers Fair? It was about where the Payless Shoes store is or was.
"Shoppers Fair, Shoppers Fair, Shoppers Fair for this stuff"
Across from Shopper's Fair on Sheridan, I remember Burger Chef (later became an Arby's I think), an original Taco Bell with the big outdoor firepit out front (still there but a Chinese place now I think, firepit long snuffed out), and for years there was Stringer Brothers nursery, the Stringer Nursery now on 41st Street. I don't remember Zuider Zee at that location.
In the Shopper's Fair center, I remember Fager Pharmacy on the south end, Borden's Cafeteria, Woolworths 5 & Dime, Shopper's Fair, a hobby shop, Happy House Card & Gift Shop (with a great old-time candy counter) and the various IGA grocery stores on the north end. May have been a slot car racing center in there too at one time; there was a slot car place up in the Hilltop Center north of 21st St. Out in the parking lot was one of the very first automatic (stay in your car) car washes in Tulsa. At the 21st & Sheridan intersection, I remember Mobil Gas on the southwest corner, Sunray DX on the northwest, Gulf Mart Gas on the northeast, and Texaco on the southeast. They used to have some great "gas wars!" I recall gas at 25 cents a gallon or less during their price wars in the '60s.
"Shopper's Fair! Shopper's Fair! Shopper's Fair for Discounts!"
May have been a slot car racing center in there too at one time; there was a slot car place up in the Hilltop Center north of 21st St. Out in the parking lot was one of the very first automatic (stay in your car) car washes in Tulsa.
"Shopper's Fair! Shopper's Fair! Shopper's Fair for Discounts!"
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For Dicounts! Thanks i could not remember that. Yes I remember the Robo Car Wash and the Hudson gas staion that was there with it and the Hilltop Slot Car Track. My parents used to get their cars worked on at the Gulf Mart service station, and I used to ride my bike to all of the service stations in my neighborhood and collected used tire weights, and gave them to Don Butler so he could make his own fishing lures before he started Okie Bug. He was also part owner of B&B Lumber Company on Sheridan at I-44. I think you mentioned Sandy's Resturaunt that was the one next to Git-n-Go at 21st and Memorial wasn't it? It was on the west end of a strip center with a laundry mat on the east end and a Consumers Gas Station on the corner. I remember when the Targe opend next to Sears, my brother was driving in off of 15th Street past their gas station and they were changing the price of gas for a special sale to 19 cents a gallon. They sold it to us at that price before they announced it in the store. When we left, they had sold out of gas.
Back on topic, as a kid my parents also went to Kings Resturaunt at 31st and Sheridan. I remember that you had a phone on the table that you called your order in on.
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as a kid my parents also went to Kings Resturaunt at 31st and Sheridan. I remember that you had a phone on the table that you called your order in on.
Yep, King's Food Host. QT is in that location now. There was also a King's Food Host downtown at 5th & Main on the ground floor/mezzanine of the Mayo Building. I liked their "Cheese Frenchy" sandwich, sort of a Monte Christo type greasy sandwich.
My parents always, ALWAYS traded at Wayne Lewellan's DX station at the northest corner of 21st & Sheridan. Had all their car repairs and maintenance done there too. The Sandy's Burgers I recall was on south Harvard or Yale, around 44th street or so. We used to stop there after a day of swimming at the old Elks Club swimming pools at 52nd & Harvard. I still have my old swimming certificates from swimming lessons at the Elk's Club. Our neighborhood didn't have a pool and my dad belonged to the Elks Club for the swimming pools and free-flowing liquor! (Back in the day when liquor-by-the-drink was still illegal.)
Gulf Mart was a nice large store with grocery section, drug/housewares/variety section, I remember a grill/snack bar in the back. Even after it closed and became a Handy Dan Home Improvement store, the Gulf Mart gas station was there abandoned for years until demolition in the 1980s. Then Venture, and now Direct TV call center.
Further north on Sheridan I remember Der Wienerschnitzel, Gibson's Discount Center & Ken's Pizza. I got my first barber shop haircut at Capps Barber Shop that was in the Shopper's Fair center, down towards the south end by Borden's. Probably cost 50 cents then. I can still remember mom giving me $1 and telling me to get on my bike and go get my hair cut! I had to ride down 21st street, across Sheridan to the shop. No big deal "back in the day!"
King's Restaurant...my mother quit taking us there. We'd slink off to an empty booth and crank call the kitchen: "One fart burger please, and hold the poop!"
Robo wash- they had one down on Peoria, Mom would drive through with my brother and I and our dog. The dog would go into hysterics and follow the, uh, "robot" around the inside of the station wagon barking at it as it washed the car.
Remember the Kip's Big Boys at 37th & Memorial and 27th & Harvard. Seems like one of the Big Boys wound up on Hale's campus one year.
DBack or Steve, either of you remember any of the Olzawski kids? My parents were friends of theirs and two of the sisters used to baby-sit us when we were little. Tom Olzawski had the first Mazda Franchise in Tulsa. I think it was just north of 21st & Memorial on the west side of the road.
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King's Restaurant...my mother quit taking us there. We'd slink off to an empty booth and crank call the kitchen: "One fart burger please, and hold the poop!"
Robo wash- they had one down on Peoria, Mom would drive through with my brother and I and our dog. The dog would go into hysterics and follow the, uh, "robot" around the inside of the station wagon barking at it as it washed the car.
Remember the Kip's Big Boys at 37th & Memorial and 27th & Harvard. Seems like one of the Big Boys wound up on Hale's campus one year.
I remember that quite well actually. It was a graduation prank by the Hale Class of 1981. I know all of the parties involved. The statue never made it to school grounds. The people involved backed up and knocked over the Big Boy with a pick up truck. The rear window of the truck had Hale stickers on it. Good plan. But they did it while Kip's was still open and there were two OHP and two TPD in the resturaunt on break that watched it happen. They tried to catch them during a short pursuit in which the statue fell out of the truck bed. So TPD went to the school and waited inthe shadows of the parking lot until they returned.
I was a yearbook and newspaper photographer my junior and senior year there. I have a picture of the aftermath on my computer at home and will post it later.
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DBack or Steve, either of you remember any of the Olzawski kids? My parents were friends of theirs and two of the sisters used to baby-sit us when we were little. Tom Olzawski had the first Mazda Franchise in Tulsa. I think it was just north of 21st & Memorial on the west side of the road.
The name doesn't ring a bell with me, but I do remember the Mazda dealer that you are talking about. Will do a little research and see what I can find.
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DBack or Steve, either of you remember any of the Olzawski kids? My parents were friends of theirs and two of the sisters used to baby-sit us when we were little. Tom Olzawski had the first Mazda Franchise in Tulsa. I think it was just north of 21st & Memorial on the west side of the road.
I remember Carl Olzawski very well. Carl was a year ahead of me at Hale in the class of 1974. I was class of 1975. Patti Olzawski was 2 years behind me, class of 1977. The Olzawski name goes back further with me in memory; did these kids go to the old John Paul Jones Elementary as I did? I also went to St. Pius school for 1st & 2nd grade, 1963-1965. (The name "Olzawski" makes me think they were St. Pius church members.) My family was very active in St. Pius PTA and school activities back in the early 1960s, and was one of the original "founders" of the parrish. I remember the old church services in the Moeller family barn, and the original dedication of the "new" St. Pius church around 1965. I have old snapshots taken at the dedication of the new modern St. Pius church. My dad (may he rest in peace) had a lovely singing voice and sang in the St. Pius choir in the 1960s; I made my first communion there and was confirmed there in 1971 after my father's death.
I remember some incidents at St. Pius in the mid-1960s, when my parents were co-presidents of the St. Pius PTA. They were having problems with some of the lay teachers at the school and their diciplinary tactics. (One teacher, Ms. Case really comes to mind for her habit of physically hitting kids for no obvious reason!) I remember a "secret" meeting my parents had at our house in 1965 to discuss the situation with other families. Our house was packed with people concerned about the problem. In the fall of 1965, my parents had had enough and put me in 3rd grade at John Paul Jones, and put my brother in 7th grade at Whitney Jr. High. We still went to St. Pius for church, but no longer Catholic school. I went on to Whitney Jr. High and graduated Hale in 1975. Turning 50 this year, in October! Gadzooks, I never thought I would be this old!
Please post any further comments on this trip down memory lane to the "My Childhood Memories" thread that I started under the forum Chat section. We have strayed way too off topic here, as our comments have nothing to do with the downtown hot dog vendor. I am just as guilty as anyone else! Thanks, Steve.
The Zuider Zee sat facing the service road, to the North East of Oertle's store about where the old Holiday Inn Holidome office is today.
There was a parking lot shared by Southwest Nursery that was just across from the street to the North of the building there that you could access the Zuider Zee fish restaurant from. Southwest Nursery owners also owned and may still own the Christmas Tree Lot at 41st and Harvard. They also owned OK Fireworks at that time.
The eye doctor that was located in the front of the Oertle's building, Dr. Wilks, was there for the longest time. I believe he outlasted almost everyone else.
Once my mom's Pontiac convertable was stolen from Oertle's parking lot, and used in an armed robbery. A man was shot and killed in that car by lawmen, story was he used the rear zipper window to shoot at the cars chashing them.
There was a popular night club later near the Oertle's store in the buildings that were built by the commercial contractor that built both the large Oertle's building and the strip shopping center to the south. The club was called Wiskers. Anyone recall that place?
Wow, is it just me or did it get really OLD in here? [:D][:D][:D]
Just kidding, guys. Thanks for sharing all the memories and 70s/80s history. This has been fun! I'm sure the hot dog vendor doesn't mind. [:)]
Speaking of, I saw that dude out at 4th & Main the other day. I need to buy a dog off him one day. Jeez, we should have half a dozen of those guys downtown. Hot dog carts are the "drive-thru" joints in pedestrian districts.
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The Zuider Zee sat facing the service road, to the North East of Oertle's store about where the old Holiday Inn Holidome office is today.
There was a parking lot shared by Southwest Nursery that was just across from the street to the North of the building there that you could access the Zuider Zee fish restaurant from. Southwest Nursery owners also owned and may still own the Christmas Tree Lot at 41st and Harvard. They also owned OK Fireworks at that time.
The eye doctor that was located in the front of the Oertle's building, Dr. Wilks, was there for the longest time. I believe he outlasted almost everyone else.
Once my mom's Pontiac convertable was stolen from Oertle's parking lot, and used in an armed robbery. A man was shot and killed in that car by lawmen, story was he used the rear zipper window to shoot at the cars chashing them.
There was a popular night club later near the Oertle's store in the buildings that were built by the commercial contractor that built both the large Oertle's building and the strip shopping center to the south. The club was called Wiskers. Anyone recall that place?
I don't know if popular is the right word for Wiskers (or was it Whiskers?) I remember people I grew up with that were older than me going there to party, and I can remember waling through the parkinglot one night, probably in '78 when I was a sophomore at Hale and saw Gary Temple who was a TPD officer and also a security officer at Hale, sitting in an unmarked police car and thinking "Boy did I pick the wrong lot to walk through!" He saw me in the hall at school a couple of days later and asked me if I was inside the bar, I just said "I'm 15, I don't think I could get in."
Whiskers it is ... Here are a few others
http://tulsatvmemories.com/imag1999/clubcard.jpg
If there is an interested entrepreneur here is a site for Vienna Beef Hot Dogs. I have eaten at a few of them in Arizona and they are some of the best.
http://www.viennabeef.com/ (//%22http://www.viennabeef.com/%22)