A controversial group from Topeka, Kansas is expected to protest outside the funeral of a fallen Oklahoma Marine this weekend.
According to the website for the Westboro Baptist Church, the group will be coming to Wagoner Saturday as the family of Lance Corporal Geoffrey Fisher will lay him to rest.
Fisher died nearly two weeks ago following a car accident in California. He was a passenger in a car in which the driver is believed to have fallen asleep at the wheel.
Fisher was attached to the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines out of Camp Pendleton, California and had served a tour of duty in Iraq. He earned the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, the Iraq Campaign Medal, Sea Service Deployment Ribbon and the National Defense Medal.
The group from the Westboro Baptist Church travels to protest at several military funerals. They claim the soldiers are being killed by God because of America's acceptance of homosexuality.
At several of the group's planned protests, those opposed to the group have shown up to counter those protests by forming a 'human barrier' between the funeral procession and the protesters.
A bill was passed in the Oklahoma Legislature last March that says protesters at funerals must be 500 feet from ceremonies and must end their protests at least one hour before and after the funeral.
A bill was introduced last month by state Senator Jay Paul Gumm which would double the distance to 1,000 feet and triple the time before and after to three hours.
God Hates Fred Phelps.
Remember the good ole' days, when someone would have shot this "fag-hating" righteous man?
I plan on attending his funeral to protest him and be as obnoxious and hateful as possible towards his grieving family. I'm thinking a sign that says "Jesus is raping Fred Phelps" or "I want to sodomize Fred Phelps widow." Something simply awful, totally disrespectful, and just what his entire clan deserves. Nearly all of his "followers" are bastard children and their spawn.
I also think it would be a nice tradition to leave a nice greasy pile of crap on his tombstone every year on the anniversary of his death. Seriously, if someone is willing to do this, I'll find a way to compensate you. It would just be way too funny to hear on the news "someone pooped on Fred Phelps tombstone again this year."
(note: Im not arguing that the government should curtail his freedom of speech, just that he is an awful man and I wish someone would physically harm him)
While I don't wish him dead, I do hope that sometime before he dies he realizes what an evil, inhuman, idiot he is being.
If he does die, I don't want a person to kill him, I want him to be hit by lightning on a sunny day. If a person kills him, he'll become a martyr.
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I want him to be hit by lightning on a sunny day.
Wouldnt that be ironic. [;)]
Personally I would like to see him go and protest in Iraq. Then maybe a nice roadside bomb might find him.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I want him to be hit by lightning on a sunny day.
Wouldnt that be ironic. [;)]
Personally I would like to see him go and protest in Iraq. Then maybe a nice roadside bomb might find him.
Again, that would justify everything he did in his follower's eyes.
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If a person kills him, he'll become a martyr.
A Saint for the inbred. His sons and daughters will mourn the loss of their nephew.
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
While I don't wish him dead, I do hope that sometime before he dies he realizes what an evil, inhuman, idiot he is being.
If he does die, I don't want a person to kill him, I want him to be hit by lightning on a sunny day. If a person kills him, he'll become a martyr.
I would like to see him dead. I agree with Cannon_Fodder.
We live in a time where law enforcement has advanced to the point where crazy people are pretty much 100% protected from the bullet to the head that they deserve.
What our society is going through is somewhat of a de-evolution.
This guy's idea of a protest is a about as tactless as it gets. If he had any real balls, he'd take his grievence to the people at the top, and not step on mourning families while they are trying to say goodbye to a loved one.
Just as bad, this guy says what he does is God's will. Ha! If that guy is doing God's will, then I'll buy a first class ticket to Hell anyday.
wasnt there a group of bikers that followed these phelps nutjobs around...they would all rev their motorcycles in order to drown out vitriol directed at the greiving families.
i wonder if they'll make an appearance at this funeral. I hope so.
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wasnt there a group of bikers that followed these phelps nutjobs around...they would all rev their motorcycles in order to drown out vitriol directed at the greiving families.
i wonder if they'll make an appearance at this funeral. I hope so.
The patriot guard:
http://www.patriotguard.org/
Separated at birth?
(http://www.godhatesfags.com/images/2002/Fred_Phelps_Preaching_8-4-2002.jpg)
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What a classy group of individuals. [V]
The Good Lord put A-Hoes like Fred on his earth so we could all feel better about ourselves.
He also put Wagoner on his earth to take care of folks like Fred when enough is enough. May the Good Lord oversee the Bikers rights tomorrow as they send Fred the message from above. [:)]
I personally think the Phelps clan is their own worst enemy as well as the best publicity anti-hate groups could possibly wish for.
I say let them do their thing and televise it so everyone can learn what complete religious corruption, fanaticism and hatred can do. The families of the deceased that the Phelps family have chosen to demonstrate in front of should actually be proud that their relatives were able to assist in exposing hate mongers like Phelps and possibly erradicating this type of hatred in the future.
I was told that there were hundreds and hundreds of bikers there lining the route to the funeral.
Good job.
Some people who protested homosexuality the loudest have been outed at some time. (Remember the Baptist Pastor, I think, from Broken Arrow?)
Me thinks Fred Phelps doest protest too much.
What a hoot to see someone come forward claiming to be his gay lover!
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I was told that there were hinfdreds and hundreds of bikers there lining the route to the funeral.
Good job.
That's correct. There were hundreds there...allthough I don't have an accurate count. They not only lined the route, they were also the escorts to graveside. There was full Military honors as expected. As far as this Phelps idiot, his people were held beyond the barrier, so there was no interference with the funeral. The Patriot Guard Riders, Rolling Thunder, I think Christian Riders were there also, as well as the other organizations.....they all did an outstanding job. State and local police had a strong show of force also....hats off to all of them....they've shown the family a lot of support. The Oklahoma Blue Star Mothers were also there, to present the family with a gold star, for a fallen soldier.
Thanks for the info tulsapoolplyr88, this is great too hear.
Fred Phelps (I will not honor him with the title of reverend) is so extreme that the Southern Baptist Convention publicly condemned his teachings. I hope that you all realize how dysfunctional this guy is. I would not hesitate to say that hate is his message, he completely disregards the New Testament, and there is no way that he is a Christian (even if he calls himself such). He is leading a cult... pure and simple.
I am a chaplain candidate (a chaplain in training for the US Army), and a Bible-believing one at that. I am sickened by his message. I mean, this guy honestly believes that anyone who does not follow HIM is going to Hell... forget Jesus. He even protests at Catholic Churches around Topeka during Sunday Mass. I have repeatedly sent Westboro emails of how lost in their ways they are... no, no cursing or condemning was included (nor would I really ever do such a thing). They have done enough for all of us.
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I say let them do their thing and televise it so everyone can learn what complete religious corruption, fanaticism and hatred can do.
It certainly goes a long way towards illustrating that religious extremism knows no national boundaries (I wonder what Al Jazerra makes of it), but the fact that we still live in a place where government shock troops arent forcibly suppressing such demonstrations speaks volumes as to the integrity of the American way of life.
Im of the understanding the Phelps cult is mostly family members, and most of them are attorneys. I hadnt thought it possible for the legal profession to get a worse rap.
I hate to say it, but I think that many of these anti-protest laws specifically created against Phelps & Co. probably will get overturned on constitutional grounds.
Jeez Louise. I will go to the wall for the Bill of Rights and, say, Jimi Hendrix and his "Star Spangled Banner." But the Constitution was meant for sh*ts like Phelps, too.
Not that I like his tactics any less.
I'm writing them an extended email in response to their video excerpts discussing the reason for all their "lovely" signs.
http://www.thesignsofthetimes.net/watchsignmovies.html
Watch with caution. These guys are fueled by the shock factor
You're email will either not be read at all, or read with a smile. You are correct, they want the shock factor and the you're email will tell them it is working.
I generally try to ignore them. For the sake of friends and family I understand it is impossible to ignore them at a funeral, so Im glad people step up and drown them out. Otherwise, he can hate all he wants and I'll just chuckle at him.
Some news channels finally caught on and gave the UIG's no air time.
The faction is not about ideology...it's about inciting a lawsuit so they can sue you.
Money, that's their deal.
Think of a fly landing on the rump of a cow. This is how much attention the situation calls for.
It's good to have a foe but there are better options out there.
jdb
Tail-gunner, PGR
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/02/134194491/high-court-rules-for-military-funeral-protesters?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.npr.org/2011/03/02/134194491/high-court-rules-for-military-funeral-protesters?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteThe Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals.
The court voted 8-1 Wednesday in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son's funeral.
Atleast Justice Alito was correct on the decision. What a horrible day for our Country. So yelling "fire" in a movie theater isnt protected by the constitution, but this pathetic excuse for a human beings message is? wow.
Quote from: TUalum0982 on March 02, 2011, 10:48:09 AM
Atleast Justice Alito was correct on the decision. What a horrible day for our Country. So yelling "fire" in a movie theater isnt protected by the constitution, but this pathetic excuse for a human beings message is? wow.
Now that the Supremes have made their decision I wouldn't be surprised if another type of punishment befalls the family.
My stepson and his friend told me last night that this Church and their fine cast of characters are going to protest the funeral's of the kid's who died saturday morning in Okmulgee. They had been at a all night party and were drinking and crashed two motorcycles into one another head on doing 50 miles a hour.
All four of them died. And since alcohol was involved in the deaths, the Church feels that they need to protest the evil the children were involved in.
The two from Bixby are the ones that my stepson and his friends knew.
Wonderful example grown adults are trying to teach our children today.
They must have missed the whole God is Love part of the word.
First off, only three people were involved.
Secondly, this really pisses me off because (this is me showing my age) I attend Bixby High School. I didn't know this girl but it saddens me that her family will have to endure this. I actually know her youth pastor quite well.
Quote from: ZYX on March 23, 2011, 04:46:57 PM
First off, only three people were involved.
Secondly, this really pisses me off because (this is me showing my age) I attend Bixby High School. I didn't know this girl but it saddens me that her family will have to endure this. I actually know her youth pastor quite well.
Sorry bout that. He called me Saturday night upset and I thought he told me four people were involved. He also told me they all were wearing helmets and the news said two of them werent.
Yeah, a lot of the initial reports were probably incorrect. We had an incident in my family once and every news station's initial reports were wrong. I have not trusted breaking news since.
I think these people idiots protest for the sake of protesting anything they disagree with.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/23/elizabeth-taylor-funeral-westboro-baptist-church-protest-picket-margie-phelps/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/23/elizabeth-taylor-funeral-westboro-baptist-church-protest-picket-margie-phelps/)
Quote from: dbacks fan on March 23, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
I think these people idiots protest for the sake of protesting anything they disagree with.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/23/elizabeth-taylor-funeral-westboro-baptist-church-protest-picket-margie-phelps/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/23/elizabeth-taylor-funeral-westboro-baptist-church-protest-picket-margie-phelps/)
They must have one "HELL" of a travel agent.
Quote from: ZYX on March 23, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
Yeah, a lot of the initial reports were probably incorrect. We had an incident in my family once and every news station's initial reports were wrong. I have not trusted breaking news since.
News organizations almost never investigate accidents themselves, such as in this case, where all the information came from the OHP.