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Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: sauerkraut on February 24, 2007, 10:43:23 AM
Hey gang, don't forget about the digging up the 1957 Plymouth This June. I was wondering if anyone knows if they plan replace that 1957 heap with a new 2007 heap to be dug up 50 years from today. The talk I hear is the 1957 Plymouth will be in bad shape. many think all the flooding in that area and construction work done in past years likely cracked the vault and it filled up with water. We'll all find out in about 4 months.[B)]
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Conan71 on February 26, 2007, 10:28:51 AM
They're going to have to get it out of the ground first.  I heard they are having trouble raising money to dig it up.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: BKDotCom on February 26, 2007, 11:46:35 AM
I dunno about that.
A.  can't be terribly expensive.
B.  Lots of that Centennial event money.
C.  Free advertisement to any large crane co/service/contractor
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Steve on February 26, 2007, 02:15:44 PM
Apparently the cost of the car raising event is going to be around $250,000.00.  According to an article in the World 7-10 days ago, Ms. King-Davis, local centennial committe chairperson, said they only have about $50,000 of the total $250,000 needed at this point and are scrambling for funds.  A car show is planned in conjuction with this to raise funds for the unearthing.  I guess the state is not providing any money towards this project, or state funds received have been allocated to other projects, and all the money must be raised locally.

I don't know why it is so expensive; I am just repeating what I have read and heard on TV. about raising the car.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: ttownclown on February 26, 2007, 08:57:02 PM
I believe they already replaced the 57 Plymouth.  Back during the Tulsa Centennial (in the 90's) they buried a Dodge Viper at one of the parks around downtown in anticipation that this car would would be excavated.  

Can anyone confirm?
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Noodlez on February 26, 2007, 11:02:32 PM
It was a prototype of the 98 Plymouth Prowler,
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=70686
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: ttownclown on February 27, 2007, 11:16:36 AM
Thanks for the clarification.  I knew it it was a Chrysler product, I just couldn't remember what kind of car that was buried in 1998.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: sauerkraut on February 27, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
I wonder if that new car from 1998 will hold up to the test of time? The computers and the electronics in that car may not be able to last that long in damp moist conditions inside that vault and will rust~away. That old 1957 had no computers in it.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: sgrizzle on February 27, 2007, 12:35:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ttownclown

Thanks for the clarification.  I knew it it was a Chrysler product, I just couldn't remember what kind of car that was buried in 1998.




The point was, they were both plymouths and done with chrysler support.

Too bad they don't seem real eager to help dig them back up.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Noodlez on February 27, 2007, 02:26:08 PM
Better yet think anyone has even bothered to ask Chrysler if they would like to help or do some promo thing.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: mdunn on February 27, 2007, 07:44:59 PM
Ill call some of my good ole boy buddys in Tulsa and we can dig that sucker up for em for say....50k? no problem!
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: sauerkraut on February 28, 2007, 12:32:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mdunn

Ill call some of my good ole boy buddys in Tulsa and we can dig that sucker up for em for say....50k? no problem!

Sure, but how can ya lift the old heap out of it's vault? That thing weighs 4,000 pounds, That'll take a crane,... ya know it may be possable to lift it out with two fork lifts, one on either side using a long strap, or with one big fork lift the kind junk yards use. it's weird that they have no money to dig that heap out, I can't see how it can be that expensive to do.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: sauerkraut on February 28, 2007, 12:32:53 PM
I never should of started this tread it's turning out to be a hornets nest.[xx(][B)]
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Conan71 on March 01, 2007, 09:48:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

Apparently the cost of the car raising event is going to be around $250,000.00.  According to an article in the World 7-10 days ago, Ms. King-Davis, local centennial committe chairperson, said they only have about $50,000 of the total $250,000 needed at this point and are scrambling for funds.  A car show is planned in conjuction with this to raise funds for the unearthing.  I guess the state is not providing any money towards this project, or state funds received have been allocated to other projects, and all the money must be raised locally.

I don't know why it is so expensive; I am just repeating what I have read and heard on TV. about raising the car.



The social elite in Tulsa seem to think you have to have champagne parties, finger food, jazz ensembles, big stages for local dignitaries with bloated egos to speak from, etc.

I think I could arrange to get it out of there for about 10% to 20% of that cost, depending on how much concrete would have to be replaced after the un-earthing- with plenty of media exposure and festivities.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Steve on March 01, 2007, 10:15:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

Apparently the cost of the car raising event is going to be around $250,000.00.  According to an article in the World 7-10 days ago, Ms. King-Davis, local centennial committe chairperson, said they only have about $50,000 of the total $250,000 needed at this point and are scrambling for funds.  A car show is planned in conjuction with this to raise funds for the unearthing.  I guess the state is not providing any money towards this project, or state funds received have been allocated to other projects, and all the money must be raised locally.

I don't know why it is so expensive; I am just repeating what I have read and heard on TV. about raising the car.



The social elite in Tulsa seem to think you have to have champagne parties, finger food, jazz ensembles, big stages for local dignitaries with bloated egos to speak from, etc.

I think I could arrange to get it out of there for about 10% to 20% of that cost, depending on how much concrete would have to be replaced after the un-earthing- with plenty of media exposure and festivities.



Yea, they could probably trim a lot of fat from the event, but I am just guessing on that one.  I know it can't be cheap because they will have to hire people that know what they are doing, a large crane, etc.  If the original planners of Tulsarama 1957 knew it would cost so much in 2007, they probably would have entombed the car in an above-ground vault for public display.  At least that way, the condition of the car would not have been such a big unknown.  Hindsight is always 20/20.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: NCTulsan on March 01, 2007, 02:50:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Steve

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by Steve

Apparently the cost of the car raising event is going to be around $250,000.00.  According to an article in the World 7-10 days ago, Ms. King-Davis, local centennial committe chairperson, said they only have about $50,000 of the total $250,000 needed at this point and are scrambling for funds.  A car show is planned in conjuction with this to raise funds for the unearthing.  I guess the state is not providing any money towards this project, or state funds received have been allocated to other projects, and all the money must be raised locally.

I don't know why it is so expensive; I am just repeating what I have read and heard on TV. about raising the car.



The social elite in Tulsa seem to think you have to have champagne parties, finger food, jazz ensembles, big stages for local dignitaries with bloated egos to speak from, etc.

I think I could arrange to get it out of there for about 10% to 20% of that cost, depending on how much concrete would have to be replaced after the un-earthing- with plenty of media exposure and festivities.



Yea, they could probably trim a lot of fat from the event, but I am just guessing on that one.  I know it can't be cheap because they will have to hire people that know what they are doing, a large crane, etc.  If the original planners of Tulsarama 1957 knew it would cost so much in 2007, they probably would have entombed the car in an above-ground vault for public display.  At least that way, the condition of the car would not have been such a big unknown.  Hindsight is always 20/20.



But the "unknown" is what makes it kinda fun.

I'm surprised that Ms. King-Davis, with all her clout and connections cannot find the extra $200,000.  Isn't she the self-proclaimed queen of Tulsa?
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: sauerkraut on March 02, 2007, 10:24:35 AM
Maybe Tulsa can raise sales taxes or have some sort of temp. tax hike to pay for the digging up of this car. A one-cent sales tax should do it.
Title: Tulsa 1957 Plymouth
Post by: Conan71 on March 02, 2007, 04:37:41 PM
I just had a crane out here for the other day to lift a 37,000 pound piece of equipment.  They charge a four hour minium for that particular crane and it cost about $900.  Crane rental ain't that bad to lift a 5000 pound land yacht.