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Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: AMP on January 24, 2007, 11:18:31 PM
Sand Springs Ford closes doors after 20 years of operation.  Other Ford Dealers across the US may be consolidating while others are closing their doors for good.

http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=118864

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/16441337.htm

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2006/08/ford_cuts_deale.html

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=ford+dealer+closing&sa=N&tab=nw

http://www.pennlive.com/business/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/business/1168483225301870.xml&coll=1

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061017/AUTO01/610170373/1148/rss25
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: Hawkins on January 26, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
When do the Toyoya/Scion dealers move in?

Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: sgrizzle on January 26, 2007, 11:04:24 AM
Ford posted their worst year in the company's history. a Near $13B loss and they expect 2007 to be worse. They are releasing almost no new models and are lowering production of rental cars (assuming they are low profit).

While GM has been relatively brain-dead when it comes to market shifts, Ford has been completely so. Only one of the Big 3 (Daimler-Chrysler) has been profitable and that is due to the fact they continuously introduce new vehicles, their largest SUV is categorized as "mid sized," Their V-8 engines include cylinder deactivation for better mileage, and they don't insist on making 14 versions of the same vehicle like Ford and Chevy.

Ford recently woke up, introduced a decent new car (the Mustang) and it sold great. Their plan to capitalize on this success? None. They are still producing two completely seperate lines of full-size trucks and 3 full-size SUV's (not to mention the lincoln version of the aforementioned vehicles, making 4 and 6, respectively.

Clue phone rings, no-one answers.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 26, 2007, 01:13:00 PM
Most telling, they LOSE $4,300 per vehicle they sell.  I can do some quick math on that and tell you something is wrong with the business model.

Though it may be painful, I hope the shakeup that has started over there gets them back on track. I buy Fords and have always had good luck with them (Taurus = best midsized family car you can get fort he $).
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: Johnboy976 on January 26, 2007, 01:28:50 PM
For several reasons, there is a large (at least 100,000 persons) group of US citizens who are specifically boycotting Ford. Over 20 leaders of large organizations have joined in on the petition, such as those from:

American Family Association
Family Research Council
Focus On The Family (who would of thought)
The Southern Baptist Convention
CatholicVote.org
Coalition of African-American Churches
etc......

Now don't get me wrong, I am a morally conservative Christian... but to boycott a secular company for using "Happy Holidays" is absurd. As for what Ford is facing with this boycott... I remain quiet. It is really hard to say what is going on at this point. There is a lot of muck-throwing.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: sgrizzle on January 26, 2007, 01:40:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Johnboy976

For several reasons, there is a large (at least 100,000 persons) group of US citizens who are specifically boycotting Ford. Over 20 leaders of large organizations have joined in on the petition, such as those from:

American Family Association
Family Research Council
Focus On The Family (who would of thought)
The Southern Baptist Convention
CatholicVote.org
Coalition of African-American Churches
etc......

Now don't get me wrong, I am a morally conservative Christian... but to boycott a secular company for using "Happy Holidays" is absurd. As for what Ford is facing with this boycott... I remain quiet. It is really hard to say what is going on at this point. There is a lot of muck-throwing.



Really?
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: Johnboy976 on January 26, 2007, 01:46:45 PM
Yep. Here:

http://www.boycottford.com/
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: Ibanez on January 26, 2007, 01:49:07 PM
The Ford Dealership in Sand Springs SUCKED. High pressure sales and their service department was horrible. I wouldn't have trusted them to clean my windshield.

They put themselves out of business.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: jdb on January 26, 2007, 01:53:02 PM
"...to boycott a secular company for using "Happy Holidays" is absurd." - johnboy

Makes me want to go out and buy three Fords, but history shows us what befalls the church when they raise their snotty, little heads too high.

Hmmm, could be a rising demand for Lion keepers and breeders right around the corner, eh? jdb
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: sgrizzle on January 26, 2007, 02:15:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Johnboy976

Yep. Here:

http://www.boycottford.com/



That says they are boycotting them for supporting homosexuals.

I didn't know that was what the "Probe" was for..
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: sgrizzle on January 26, 2007, 02:17:10 PM
..oh, and they sponsor Desperate Housewives...
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 26, 2007, 03:40:39 PM
... and they kill puppies.

The site didnt say so, but I'm sure they do and its another reason for the boycott.

I hope these people dont realize that most Japanese car companies got their start making war parts for the Imperial Army, or that the German companies made parts for the nazi's, or any car company probably sponsors SOMETHING that they hate (in the name of Jesus, I hate thee).  I wonder if the bicycle companies have shady secrets too?
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: sgrizzle on January 26, 2007, 03:53:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

... and they kill puppies.

The site didnt say so, but I'm sure they do and its another reason for the boycott.

I hope these people dont realize that most Japanese car companies got their start making war parts for the Imperial Army, or that the German companies made parts for the nazi's, or any car company probably sponsors SOMETHING that they hate (in the name of Jesus, I hate thee).  I wonder if the bicycle companies have shady secrets too?



Chevy is named after Chevy Chase who starred in "National Lampoon's Vegas Vacation" which promoted gambling. If you buy a Chevy, it means you want families to lose all their money and be homeless.

Schwinn is the sound Wayne & Garth make when talking about adulterous lust towards women. Riding a bike is the same as committing adultery.

How'd I do?
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 26, 2007, 04:47:27 PM
Dodge is derived from the name Dodgers (from the baseball team). They once employed a pitcher named Fernando Valenzuela who was not an American citizen.  Dodge wants us to employ a foreign workforce instead of giving the job to an American.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: waterboy on January 26, 2007, 05:11:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

Dodge is derived from the name Dodgers (from the baseball team). They once employed a pitcher named Fernando Valenzuela who was not an American citizen.  Dodge wants us to employ a foreign workforce instead of giving the job to an American.



Lexus is actually Norwegian for Lufthansa, a German aircraft company which benefits from government investment that puts American plane manufacturers like Boeing at a disadvantage which....cost Tulsa the Boeing plant. Boycott em.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 27, 2007, 03:15:10 PM
That's it!  I'm walking, probably barefoot and naked too.  Brrrr... its cold out there.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: MichaelC on January 29, 2007, 09:44:35 PM
Mazda, named after the Zoroastrian god Ahura Mazda.

Mazda (//%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda%22)

Ahura Mazda (//%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahura_Mazda%22)

Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: AMP on January 29, 2007, 10:52:49 PM
Brand loyalty is of little or no interest to most buyers today.  

Fuel mileage, price, warranty and at the end of the list longevity, are.

Many of the imported Scooters, ATVs and Motorcycles today don't even come with a serial number, brand name or identity logos on them.  

They are just a product of Asia that works well, is very cheap and easy to purchase.  

Plus they are available for sale at Discount Furniture Outlets, Wholesale Tool Centers and on vacant lots all over the State.  

Cheap and Easy.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: Johnboy976 on January 30, 2007, 03:32:45 AM
Are we talking about cars or "ladies of the night?"
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: Aa5drvr on January 30, 2007, 04:42:38 AM
They both have the same warranties.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: ttownclown on January 30, 2007, 10:07:05 AM
In Korean, Kia means "Depreciates Quickly"
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: AMP on January 30, 2007, 12:16:38 PM
Majority of motor vehicles are only worth their weight at the recycle centers anyway.  

2005 Pontiac Grand Prix brought $120 in weight last week.  I had minor front end grill headlamp 3mph bumper damage. Air bags had been deployed so the Car had 43,000 miles on it.  Several Salvages quoted $50 for the car.  Car Crusher gave $120 for the weight of the vehicle
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: sgrizzle on January 30, 2007, 12:29:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Majority of motor vehicles are only worth their weight at the recycle centers anyway.  

2005 Pontiac Grand Prix brought $120 in weight last week.  I had minor front end grill headlamp 3mph bumper damage. Air bags had been deployed so the Car had 43,000 miles on it.  Several Salvages quoted $50 for the car.  Car Crusher gave $120 for the weight of the vehicle



Didn't think airbags deployed at 3mph.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: waterboy on January 30, 2007, 12:39:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AMP

Majority of motor vehicles are only worth their weight at the recycle centers anyway.  

2005 Pontiac Grand Prix brought $120 in weight last week.  I had minor front end grill headlamp 3mph bumper damage. Air bags had been deployed so the Car had 43,000 miles on it.  Several Salvages quoted $50 for the car.  Car Crusher gave $120 for the weight of the vehicle



No wonder insurance rates are so high. Bikes looking better all the time.
Title: Ford Dealerships Go Belly Up
Post by: rwarn17588 on January 30, 2007, 01:11:34 PM
It was a Pontiac Grand Prix. No wonder it only fetched $120.

And, yes, I used to drive one, many moons ago. Anything associated with GM, I'm pretty leery about.