Let's hope that this doesn't come into fruition like it is looking so far. I got plenty of firewood and lots of groceries just in case it gets bad.
Took over an hour at Reasors around 6pm to pick up a few items. Out of most things, no hamburger meat, no bananas. Low on bread, milk, eggs.
Had to wait 10 minutes for a basket, and all 15 lanes had 5 or more standing in line.
Gives another meaning to "Just in time" warehouse shipping.
I was at the Reasors at 19th & Yale around 7:00 PM tonight. It was worse than the day before Thanksgiving! You had to forage the parking lot for a grocery cart. They were 10 carts deep at every checkout. Shelves were empty all over the store. Crazy! You would think that Tulsans only did their grocery shopping on the day before an anticipated winter storm.
Fortunately, I was there only for milk, soda, and bread and made it through the express lane in just a few minutes.
I hope we "dodge a bullet" this time and don't have a repeat of Nov.30-Dec.1 storm. The roof on my house had some ice damming problems due to the long freeze/thaw/refreeze with that storm.
I'll be delivering in it, sweet.
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Originally posted by Steve
I was at the Reasors at 19th & Yale around 7:00 PM tonight. It was worse than the day before Thanksgiving! You had to forage the parking lot for a grocery cart. They were 10 carts deep at every checkout. Shelves were empty all over the store. Crazy! You would think that Tulsans only did their grocery shopping on the day before an anticipated winter storm.
Fortunately, I was there only for milk, soda, and bread and made it through the express lane in just a few minutes.
I hope we "dodge a bullet" this time and don't have a repeat of Nov.30-Dec.1 storm. The roof on my house had some ice damming problems due to the long freeze/thaw/refreeze with that storm.
I was there.... Same experience! CRAZY
As it is looking for the moment, there should be a decent amount of ice accumulation. The national weather service is predicting around 1/2" of ice accumulation by Sunday, with possibly higher amounts for Northern Oklahoma. Should start Friday night with rain which will develop into freezing rain into Saturday and continue through Sunday night.
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As it is looking for the moment, there should be a decent amount of ice accumulation. The national weather service is predicting around 1/2" of ice accumulation by Sunday, with possibly higher amounts for Northern Oklahoma. Should start Friday night with rain which will develop into freezing rain into Saturday and continue through Sunday night.
I think we will see higher than a half an inch in the Tulsa area.
Strange. For the 2nd day in a row the national weather map (in the weather section of the newspaper) shows the Tulsa area in green-- high temperature in the low 40s for Friday.
Yet the local internet and media blitz shows an ice storm alert ALL WEEKEND.
These local weather stations are vying for ratings and the right to say they 'covered it best,' but there is still a chance that we won't see any significant ice accumulation until Sunday in the Tulsa area.
Question 1: How much ice before power lines start coming down?
Question 2: How long are we going to put up with this unecessary problem?
Pretty sure it's icey outside folks.
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Question 1: How much ice before power lines start coming down?
Depends on the winds. If they are the predicted 15-30mph, then not a whole lot. If it's calm, it would take a lot more to just weight them down. The wind will add more strain to the lines/poles which will knock them down quicker. On the flip side, no one seems to be complaining as much about the city trimming trees.
Question 2: How long are we going to put up with this unecessary problem?
Which problem? I don't see how we have a choice in controling the weather.
Ice, wind, and/or trees can't knock down power lines if they are underground.
Power lines will be a problem on Sunday, when the accumulation is greatest and the their is more freezing rain.
It's not so much the rain on Sunday but the wind to go with it.
The weight on the powerlines is more a factor than the wind...and freezing rain puts more weight. Wind doesn't help though.
I went shopping on Tuesday. No lines and got everything I needed. Better safe then sorry. [;)]
But don't you love the comraderie associated with an impending disaster? I went to Reasors this morning--absolute zoo. But everyone was acting as though this were the most exciting thing to happen in years. People were pitching in to help bag, perfect strangers discussing their opinions on the track of the storm, etc.... Anyway, I am glad it's turning out to be more sleet and less ice. Can't wait to go sledding tomorrow. Hope Harwelden has recovered from the last go around.
It's because it is one of the more exciting things going on...
[}:)]
I'm in Cape Canaveral (been here since the 3rd) and it's 65 degrees at 6:20 am. Eat your hearts out! [:)] The bad side is that I'm working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and MLK day is no exception.
I've been watching the weather reports and it sounds like Tulsa is really getting whacked. I hope that DFW is okay by Wednesday when I return home. Stay safe and warm!
PSO/AEP continues to defoliage Tulsa and refuses to replant what they destroy and what's a bigger crime refuses to replace outdated hardware. They have different rules in different neighborhoods. It's a cheap donkey multi Billion company that keeps coming back to my woods to take trees out that were protected two or three years back and which were never close to threatening their lines. Their relationship with neighborhoods is to play divide and conquere. It is in the top 5 of worst corporate citizens in Tulsa.
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your assessment of PSO as a corporate entity, but I am pleased that we have made it through a major ice storm with no outages in Tulsa County.
The un-trimmed Delaware, Mayes, McIntosh, Pittsburg and Rogers county residents have lost power.
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I took my kids this morning--great sledding, though it was difficult getting up the hill because of the ice.
I rue the day that my kids are grown, and I don't have an excuse to go sledding.
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I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your assessment of PSO as a corporate entity, but I am pleased that we have made it through a major ice storm with no outages in Tulsa County.
The un-trimmed Delaware, Mayes, McIntosh, Pittsburg and Rogers county residents have lost power.
WE have made it through due to sleet and not ice.....the only reason.
^That is correct. Sleet, which is what Tulsa got, does not stick to trees and powerlines. Freezing rain is rain that turns to ice when it hits an object that is colder than the freezing point.
Had Tulsa been iced like the areas to the southeast, I suspect we'd have tens of thousands without power, too. We can't be for certain, because Tulsa and these other counties were hit by different kinds of weather.
But I contend that our good luck (so far) is exactly that...good luck. And my point is, why should we rely on luck when it is feasible, reasonable even, to bury overhead lines.
my sister and her family live in leach in delaware county. they lost power last night about 9:00. they were told the power crews would not come to repair lines until the roads were clear of downed trees. so my brother-in-law and some neighbors went out clearing the roads. my sister said she sat in her house today listening to trees break and crash to the ground all around her. "its amazing what and how far away you can hear when you have no sounds of t.v`s ,radio`s or cars" she said
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
I am not agreeing or disagreeing with your assessment of PSO as a corporate entity, but I am pleased that we have made it through a major ice storm with no outages in Tulsa County.
The un-trimmed Delaware, Mayes, McIntosh, Pittsburg and Rogers county residents have lost power.
WE have made it through due to sleet and not ice.....the only reason.
As of the news this morning, PSO had about 25-30,000 people without power in NE Oklahoma. I was out in the storm constantly and I saw plenty of ice. Tulsa didn't get the brunt of the storm as well as the rampant tree clearing is what kept Tulsa in the clear.
Keep in mind the people deciding to clear trees are not the top hat guy from "Monopoly," it's not Donald Trump, it's a group of horticulturists (the kind who went to college) who determine whether foliage is considered a present or future threat. I can't imagine why they would deal with different neighborhoods in different ways, everyone on this board does that already.
Two of my neighbors and I have been trying for 3+ years to get PSO to do some trimming around here. The lines running to our houses run right through nearly 300 yards of dense trees to the South before they get to our houses. So many that anytime the wind blows we get constant power surges/flashes/whatever you want to call it.
PSO's response? The same every time. We call. Within a week or two we each have a note on our door telling us they came out and looked and that the trees are not an issue?
You have got to be kidding me!!!
Cox also had the cable lines running along the same route. The trees became such an issue and were causing so many cable outages that Cox came out 18 months ago and ran new lines everywhere WHICH THEY BURIED.
Why can't PSO do the same?
Meanwhile we suffer through needless power interruptions and I lost several electical devices until I, at my own expense, hired an electrician to come out and install a whole house surge protection system.
Had a similar problem with ONG and their fine representatives. My home, on the end of a 1/4 mile private drive was on a so-called private line that ran thru a master meter near the main road. Gas line was shared by five other homes in our square mile neighborhood.
A neighbbor close to the master meter was borrowing gas from the line. ONG decided it was line loss, and cut off service due to safety.
Long story short, we all converted to either total electric or propane/electric. At our expense. ONG Rep came out and stated on the news that they are not a charity organization and could not afford to repair the line or in real terms get the thief off of it.
I was outraged by the report, but it did zero good. Attorney for ONG is also our corporate attorney. He advised to convert to Propane. LOL Gota love the public utilities.
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Cox also had the cable lines running along the same route. The trees became such an issue and were causing so many cable outages that Cox came out 18 months ago and ran new lines everywhere WHICH THEY BURIED.
Why can't PSO do the same?
Meanwhile we suffer through needless power interruptions and I lost several electical devices until I, at my own expense, hired an electrician to come out and install a whole house surge protection system.
PSO can do the same. Don't be afraid of the $1,000,000 a mile talk...the cost varies a lot.
They are also pathetic at burying lines. Once they did this 100 feet from my bedroom and said it would take a week to 10 days to complete. It took 3 months. Made me a little irritable trying to read, listen to music, watch TV, enjoy solitude with that drill bit vibrating through my house.
PSO is a pathetic corporate citizen.
I am a little concerned about our local news organizations and their overkill on this weather could put them on the list of worst companies. There was no HD feed on 6 yesterday due to their constant fear bcast. I got up to watch Meet the Depressed at 8 and 2 had pre empted it for what else? An hour of weather.
Watch, soon they will find ways to interupt your computer or handheld.
y karma sez my lectric goes out around 5.....
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I am a little concerned about our local news organizations and their overkill on this weather could put them on the list of worst companies. There was no HD feed on 6 yesterday due to their constant fear bcast. I got up to watch Meet the Depressed at 8 and 2 had pre empted it for what else? An hour of weather.
Watch, soon they will find ways to interupt your computer or handheld.
y karma sez my lectric goes out around 5.....
Me too. I was wanting to watch CBS Sunday Morning as I always do, but guess what, it was local weather ad nauseum. And they keep repeating the same things over and over, things we already know, with interviews and stories that give no really useful information. I have to give them the benefit of the doubt in tornado season, or violent thunderstorm weather, but the local coverage for this storm has been way, WAY to much overkill.
I realize that the local Tulsa TV stations' coverage area is much more than the Tulsa metropolitan area, but this constant non-stop preempting to report the same thing over and over seems silly to me. Unless there is some pending drastic change or real emergency, stick with network programming.