Back in October, Genius John sent a memo (//%22http://johneagleton.com/news/archives/2006/10/within_the_unit.html%22) to Mommy Warbucks asking for enforcement to reduce reckless driving between 51st and 71st on Memorial.
Subsequently, Warbucks ordered Tulsa Police to increase enforcement to reduce speeding. TPD Santa Task Force has spotty presence on Memorial. And, the speeding continues.
Eagleton talked about ENGINEERING as one solution. Unfortunately, the geniuses who designed Memorial aid and abet CRIMINAL speeding, by making the roadway long and wide, just like a jet runway.
Seattle PD uses bike cops as human shields to reduce speeding. Imagine four bike cops, two in each direction, between 51st and 71st, during rush, rolling on Memorial.
That should do the trick. But, I bet Tulsa Police is probably too AFRAID to deploy bike cops as human shields to prevent CRIMINAL speeding. Rwarn thinks TPD are weenies who can't bike 25 miles in an eight hour shift. Maybe it's in the union contract?
Santa been doing what he can, without impersonating a law enforcement officer, with a sign: SLOW COP AHEAD. Rest assured, people, Santa would never suggest SUCH a move to put Tulsa's finest in harm's way, if he hadn't already tested the concept. Are Seattle cops tougher than Tulsa cops? What do you think, MH?
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Originally posted by makelifebetter4ok
Back in October, Genius John sent a memo (//%22http://johneagleton.com/news/archives/2006/10/within_the_unit.html%22) to Mommy Warbucks asking for enforcement to reduce reckless driving between 51st and 71st on Memorial.
Subsequently, Warbucks ordered Tulsa Police to increase enforcement to reduce speeding. TPD Santa Task Force has spotty presence on Memorial. And, the speeding continues.
Eagleton talked about ENGINEERING as one solution. Unfortunately, the geniuses who designed Memorial aid and abet CRIMINAL speeding, by making the roadway long and wide, just like a jet runway.
Seattle PD uses bike cops as human shields to reduce speeding. Imagine four bike cops, two in each direction, between 51st and 71st, during rush, rolling on Memorial.
That should do the trick. But, I bet Tulsa Police is probably too AFRAID to deploy bike cops as human shields to prevent CRIMINAL speeding.
Santa been doing what he can, without impersonating a law enforcement officer, with a sign: SLOW COP AHEAD. Rest assured, people, Santa would never suggest SUCH a move to put Tulsa's finest in harm's way, if he hadn't already tested the concept. What do you think, MH?
I guess you skipped your meds today?
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Originally posted by MH2010
I guess you skipped your meds today?
Au contraire. I'm well-medicated with massive doses, probably like 25mg, of endorphins everyday. Maybe you should give it a try. The stuff is kinda like a hellacious mix of quaaludes AND meth. Both a downer AND an upper, highly ADDICTIVE, without the nasty side effects. The stuff is cheap to cook up. Mix in one hot tamale, a couple cold horchata, and a few turns of the ole crankshaft, and, walla! Yer in business.
Seriously, my man, give us your professional opinion and the DOWNSIDE. Yes, there are risks, such as getting PASSED by BikerCHICKEN. But, hey, if Seattle cops can do it, why NOT?
Man, they are rolling sumthin' like 16 bike guys, in perfect formation on some of the most heaviest traffic. Rumor on the street has it that on a good day, they are pullin' up to 50kph. If cops on bikes at full bore rollin' on Memorial ain't a show of force to freak out every blasted speeding fool, I don't know what is.
For dudes like Lance and gang at full throttle, 50kph is CHUMP change. For cops, that's WORLD-CLASS. Folks, if you've never pulled 50kph under your own power, without a downhill or a tailwind, it's like watching a movie in fast forward, while you are on a really BAD acid trip. That's because, unless you are doin' EPO, your lungs feel like it's gonna blow outta yer ears and your eyeballs are on the back of yer head.
The pain is nothing short of AMAZING. Definately NOT yo' daddy's orgasm.
I don't really know what you are asking. Are you asking if I think using police officers on bicycles as speed bumps is a good idea. Do they have any other purpose? Do these police officers have any enforcement function? Are you expecting them to pull people over and issue citations? Are they to respond to 911 calls in the area?
If that is what you are asking, I believe it is a horrible idea. It would be a waste of manpower.
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Originally posted by MH2010
I don't really know what you are asking. Are you asking if I think using police officers on bicycles as speed bumps is a good idea. Do they have any other purpose? Do these police officers have any enforcement function? Are you expecting them to pull people over and issue citations? Are they to respond to 911 calls in the area?
If that is what you are asking, I believe it is a horrible idea. It would be a waste of manpower.
Now we are getting somewhere.
1) Bike cops, and Santa, used as speed bumps: Motorists have two choices. They can either run over the cops and Santa, or they can slow down and pass in the other lane, slowly.
2) Other purposes for bike cops on Memorial: Arm them with WiMax-enabled, Cheapo-Depot thin-client v-cams to upload license plates AND faces to CO. Catch bad guys. Roll right into their faces and have a look inside vehicle, while smiling REALLY big. Santa's already u-tubin' motorists, askin' them what they got for X-Mas. He even caught Douglass with cute wifey on Memorial.
San Antonio PD uses bike cops to issue traffic citations to motorists. And, of course, bust BikerChicken for riding the WRONG way.
3) Respond to 911 calls: Yes, of course.
What do I know about police operations? Who the hell am I to tell cops how to pull ops. I just know Seattle is doing some amazing stuff with bike cops. Hell, if Santa's figured out a killer app for bikes, TPD oughta be just as creative. Am I right, people?
Remember, commandos have used air-dropped bikes behind enemy lines. And, many other PD's, including every blasted PD in the area, BA, Owasso, Bixby, and Jenks, uses bike cops. Although they are not used to their full potential.
I'm not exactly talking about Drew Diamond's weenie-donkey community-oriented policing, although some of his bike cops were used to stake out a drug house in the MIDDLE of a snow-out day.
I think timing on the lights needs to be addressed. If you speed on 71st and/or memorial you hit all green lights. Drive the limit, you hit almost every red.
Originally posted by makelifebetter4ok.
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Au contraire. I'm well-medicated with massive doses, probably like 25mg, of endorphins everyday. Maybe you should give it a try. The stuff is kinda like a hellacious mix of quaaludes AND meth. Both a downer AND an upper, highly ADDICTIVE, without the nasty side effects. The stuff is cheap to cook up. Mix in one hot tamale, a couple cold horchata, and a few turns of the ole crankshaft, and, walla! Yer in business.
Paul, Your Brother takes his meds....... You should not make fun of things like this..
There may come a time when you realize just how different your life could have been...
Quien Sabe...?
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Originally posted by Rico
You should not make fun of things like this..
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Just between you, me, and the lamp-post, NO one has made light of meds, except maybe for MH. Instead of answering to a honest question, MH chose to inspire an off-topic thread.
Grizzle knows all about the new board rule: Avoid shooting the messenger.
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Originally posted by makelifebetter4ok
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Originally posted by Rico
You should not make fun of things like this..
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Just between you, me, and the lamp-post, NO one has made light of meds, except maybe for MH. Instead of answering to a honest question, MH chose to inspire an off-topic thread.
Grizzle knows all about the new board rule: Avoid shooting the messenger.
I'm not making fun of any medication. I just believe you're mentally unstable.
Maybe not mentally unstable, but perhaps a more genteel expressions, such as eccentric. [}:)]
Give it up, Tay. Cops seldom listen to ex-cons, and for good reason.
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Originally posted by MH2010
I'm not making fun of any medication. I just believe you're mentally unstable.
See, people. There he goes again. Shooting the messenger, instead of staying on-message. So, EOD me. It seems when MH gets confused, he pulls the trigger.
Maybe TPD should require personnel to re-take that psych test periodically? Naaaaaaaaaah. Another bad idea. A cop's psychology don't change from the academy.
Just to clear up ANY confusion, I am asking the next El Jefe de Policia to seriously consider deploying a massive force of cops, 2,000, on bikes, y necessitamos comprende de la cultura de narco-corrido. Funding: The Fair Grounds Money Train, and savings from deep-sixin' EDC, Gilcrease, and PAC.
I have NOT a clue about police ops. I won't be telling cops how to pull ops. Control-freakin' micro-manager, I AIN'T. But, I did review General Eric Shenseki's Effective Counter-Insurgency for DUMMIES. If ya got enough boots on the ground, ya got 90% of the victory.
There's also the Ray Kelly's gem: How to FREAK gangbangers, without really trying. Plug a brothaaa and gang on his wedding day, deal with the PRE-MEDITATED, CALCULATED public fallout later, while putting EVERY blasted wise guy armed with a 50 on notice. Vision, my man. See it for what it really is. Brutal, but, very effective counter-insurgency psych op. SOP in 'Nam.
Reading MH's posts, perhaps there is a GOOD reason why cops should have college degrees after all.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
Cops seldom listen to ex-cons, and for good reason.
Mr. Warnick, the only eccentric person on this board I can surmise is one who believes Tulsa cops are weenies unable to bike 25 miles during an eight-hour shift on your beloved Route 66.
Santa regularly bikes 40 miles on a FOUR-hour shift. A measly 10mph. Again, if the FAT Man can do it, why NOT cops, MH? I dare say TPD got a real bad case of Drew Diamond-itis.
It seems cops seldom listen to ex-cons, or any OTHER taxpayers. But, they did listened to Mitnick.
Remember, whose payroll the cops are on. TAXPAYERS'. And, ex-cons pay sales taxes too. We, as in you and me, pay HONEST cops to keep EVERYBODY honest, NOT to infringe on OUR constitutional rights, even if it's an "abusive" exercise thereof. Hey, if ya can't abuse your constitutional right, what good is it?
Perhaps Santa may not be speaking to MH, the genius psych major, specifically. Get this board another cop who will engage in a REAL conservation, instead of shooting the messenger.
NOTHING Santa has proposed is ORIGINAL. It's already been done to DEATH by Seattle PD, San Antonio PD, and even OKC PD. Let's debate the REAL issue at hand, not someone's mental stability. It seems to me Santa, without impersonating LEO, has already field-tested what has already been done by bike cops WORLDWIDE.
Rollin' right up into motorists' faces. Engaging in conversation. Interviewing them. U-tubing license plates AND mugshots. Preventing CRIMINAL speeding.
If Santa is really mentally unstable, cops would have EOD'd him a long time ago. Certainly, the Santa Task Force is still cruising around, looking for a good reason.
Singing NEKKID 4 $1 might do it? Naaaaaaaaaaah.
Maybe when Flyboy Jones gets back from Iraq. He did a bang-up job bustin' Santa for DANCING in the street, 27 TRO 1205, AND riding on the SIDEWALK. GENIUS, I tellya. PURE unmitigated GENIUS!
Douglass, on the other hand, pulls Santa over the other day. Intros his wife. Talked about his three great kids into computer games, while getting a call about some guy impersonating Santa from dispatch. And, he gets U-TUBED!
All cops are NOT the same. Will the next El Jefe de Policia please STAND up?
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
I think timing on the lights needs to be addressed. If you speed on 71st and/or memorial you hit all green lights. Drive the limit, you hit almost every red.
That would be the ENGINEERING issue Genius John talked about.
But, on the bottom line of the memo, the man insists on ENFORCEMENT. And, NOTHING about EDUCATION.
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Mr. Warnick, the only eccentric person on this board I can surmise is one who believes Tulsa cops are weenies unable to bike 25 miles during an eight-hour shift on your beloved Route 66.
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Last I checked, I didn't cruise around Route 66 with a giant inflatable penis, wear Santa suits during non-holiday times and show so little self-restraint that I get tossed in the pokey. I think most people here can ascertain who truly is the eccentric one.
Face it: If you're going to be an advocate for a cause you support, it would be good if you had credibility. Your demonstrated willful stupidity and/or lack of self-control keeps you from having any on the subject. That's a fact.
And, no, I still am not convinced bicycling cops is the way to go on a wide scale. One place it might work is inside the IDL. But not on a sprawling area like East 11th Street.
How about they limit access to Memorial and just increase the speed limits? People are going that fast for a reason. Perhaps ban bike riders or pedestrians?
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
And, no, I still am not convinced bicycling cops is the way to go on a wide scale. One place it might work is inside the IDL. But not on a sprawling area like East 11th Street.
If called upon to testify in a court of law, what credentials can you claim in the area of law enforcement cycling?
You may be right about keeping bike cops within IDL. City personnel records indicate 75% of the active duty officers are obese.
Here is a website that is very pro bike cops. It is a group called the International Police Mountain Bike Association.
http://www.ipmba.org/index.htm
I don't think it is a bad idea, but would understand if the police department had different opinions.
Here is a medical journal that says that bicycling for long periods of time leads to erectile dysfunction and groin numbness.
http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/content/full/23/6/927
That may be one of the problems with our bicycling Santa.
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Originally posted by recyclemichael
That may be one of the problems with our bicycling Santa.
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After tracking the weight of nearly 70,000 men between 1982 and 1992, researchers from the American Cancer Society and the Duke University Prostate Center found that men who lost more than 11 pounds had a lower risk for aggressive prostate cancer than men whose weight stayed the same over a decade.
Previous studies have found that obese men have a higher risk of developing aggressive prostate cancer. This study appears to be the first to indicate that recent weight loss can decrease that risk.
In the study reported this month in Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention, researchers analyzed the height and weight of the men in 1982 and 1992 and every three years after that until 2003. At that time, more than 5,200 of the men -- more than 7 percent -- had prostate cancer.
Among those cases, about one in eight had a form of cancer that was aggressive but had not spread to other areas of the body. The study's major finding focused on those aggressive cases, with researchers concluding that those who lost 11 or more pounds were 42 percent less likely to develop that form of prostate cancer
than those whose weight stayed the same.
"Whether it's exactly 40 percent, we don't know, but they lower their risk when they lose 11-plus pounds," lead researcher Dr. Carmen Rodriguez said. "We feel confident, at least in this population, that was real."
More than seven times as many men whose weight stayed the same had aggressive prostate cancer compared with those who lost 11 or more pounds.
Rodriguez said men should avoid putting on extra weight as they get older.
"The main message for men is to not get overweight," he said. "If they are overweight, that's another reason to try to lose weight, just to decrease the risk for prostate cancer."
Prostate cancer is the second most commonly diagnosed cancer for men and the second leading cause of cancer death for U.S. men.