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Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: NCTulsan on December 06, 2006, 02:38:48 PM
I'll be in Tulsa over the holidays for my annual visit.  With 10 days to fill, I am curious of anyone's opinions of best new restaurants / pubs / diners / bars to open in the past year.  I tend to spend most of my time north of I-44 when home, but I might venture south if it's worth the visit.

Aside from my usuals (which include Cancun, Full Moon, Bros Houligan, McNellie's, Kilkenny's, and Coney Island among others), what do you guys recommend that has opened recently?
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: unknown on December 06, 2006, 03:09:53 PM
I would reccomend the Brook 34th & Peoria... they have been open for a few years, but they seem to fit your tastes they have great fried mushrooms!

A hole in the wall is Los Girasoles in BA off 71st (407 E Kenosha St) Cash only, but they have a huge supreme burrito; steak rice, onions, lettuce... all covered in cheese for 6.50 [}:)]

Like Pizza? www.savastanospizzeria.com they have been around for a while and are pricey, but a great Chicago Style Pizza.

Just curious, but how many coneys can you eat? my record is 15, but I think I could do more
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: MH2010 on December 06, 2006, 04:12:55 PM
Two words.....Phat Phillies.  It has incredible philly cheesesteaks and is located downtown.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Rowdy on December 07, 2006, 07:01:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by unknown

I would reccomend the Brook 34th & Peoria... they have been open for a few years, but they seem to fit your tastes they have great fried mushrooms!

A hole in the wall is Los Girasoles in BA off 71st (407 E Kenosha St) Cash only, but they have a huge supreme burrito; steak rice, onions, lettuce... all covered in cheese for 6.50 [}:)]

Like Pizza? www.savastanospizzeria.com they have been around for a while and are pricey, but a great Chicago Style Pizza.

Just curious, but how many coneys can you eat? my record is 15, but I think I could do more



You gotta be kidding me on Savastano's.  I finally got a deep dish pizza thinking "man, this will be good"!  When lo and behold it was the lousiest pizza.  It was a large pile of dough with a thin layer of toppings on top.  The dough tasted crappy and was nowhere near any type of deep dish I have ever had.  There is no way that is authentic or pizza would have been out centuries ago.

The layer of crust under the toppings was still WAY doughy and wasn't even cooked.  I definitely wouldn't recommend that place.  (fuming)
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: TheArtist on December 07, 2006, 09:13:17 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rowdy

quote:
Originally posted by unknown

I would reccomend the Brook 34th & Peoria... they have been open for a few years, but they seem to fit your tastes they have great fried mushrooms!

A hole in the wall is Los Girasoles in BA off 71st (407 E Kenosha St) Cash only, but they have a huge supreme burrito; steak rice, onions, lettuce... all covered in cheese for 6.50 [}:)]

Like Pizza? www.savastanospizzeria.com they have been around for a while and are pricey, but a great Chicago Style Pizza.

Just curious, but how many coneys can you eat? my record is 15, but I think I could do more



You gotta be kidding me on Savastano's.  I finally got a deep dish pizza thinking "man, this will be good"!  When lo and behold it was the lousiest pizza.  It was a large pile of dough with a thin layer of toppings on top.  The dough tasted crappy and was nowhere near any type of deep dish I have ever had.  There is no way that is authentic or pizza would have been out centuries ago.

The layer of crust under the toppings was still WAY doughy and wasn't even cooked.  I definitely wouldn't recommend that place.  (fuming)



Tomatoes are a new world food. Centuries ago (and less) pizza was made with other kinds of fruit. FYI

The worst pizza I ever had was in Paris.  Was sooo starving. Tried ordering from a menue at a local restaurant.  Found Pizza on it so ordered that. When my "Pizza" came out it was the size of a large tortilla, and just as thin. Had about a pack of ketchups worth of tomato sauce on it and on top of that an egg, sunny side up.  Wasnt exactly sure how to eat the thing. Tried slicing it into quarters to pick up and eat, but it was so thin and slimy it wouldnt really cut. After several various, and quite creative, attempts at figuring out how to eat the thing and noticing the natives giving me strange looks I just rolled the thing up like a burrito and ate it that way lol.

The closest thing I found to pizza was calzone at another nearby place.  I thought I was ordering 3 pieces to go but ended up with 3 boxes, each with a huge calzone in it. Oh well I like pizza anyway.  Got to the room, simply famished. Sat on my bed and started chowing down. Had a good mouth full, swallowed half the mouth full, only to discover that French cheese is quite durable. I started choking, with half the bite stuck in my throat and the other half still in my mouth and both halves attached by an extremely tough strand of cheese. I couldnt cough it up, couldnt swallow, couldnt breathe, was all alone in the room choking and drooling. Finnaly had to stuff my hand into the back of my mouth and grab the one part of the calzone and pull.  This freed the other part to go down. I laid on the bed gasping for breath with a hand full of calzone and drool imagining the headline.... In the news today, An American tourist is found dead in his hotel room after choking to death during an apparent calzone feeding frenzy.[:P]  


 After a couple weeks of "Williams adventures with French food" all I could say was... Praaaaaise the Lawd! when I found that Mc Donalds.[:D]
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: NCTulsan on December 08, 2006, 09:45:22 AM
Thank you two for your suggestions.  I'll definitely have to do Phat Phillies.  Love a good cheesesteak!

In answer to Unknown's question, I have never challenged myself on coneys .... only on hot dogs (I think I did 17 at a Drillers game once).  I'm sure the chili on a coney would limit that number, but maybe I'll have to try this time when in town.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Cubs on December 08, 2006, 11:01:33 AM
Savastano's is okay, but if you are going there thinking it is going to be Chicago style, you will probably be disappointed. The thin crust is definitely  not Chicago style and the deep dish, although it looks Chicago, it just isn't.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: rwarn17588 on December 08, 2006, 11:23:50 AM
That's the only weakness I see with Savastano's -- the crust is dull. Everything else about it is pretty good, though.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: pmcalk on December 08, 2006, 12:26:49 PM
If you are willing to spend a small fortune, the new restaurant, The Brasserie, on Brookside is excellent, IMO.  We went there for a special occasion last week, and I was very impressed.  The french onion soup was delicious (not too salty), and the duck was incredible.  My only complaint--the coffee was mediocre at best.  If you go, plan on spending quite a bit, but it will be worth it.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 08, 2006, 12:35:14 PM
best new restaurant...Pei Weis on 71st.

as far as Savastanos....you can hate on it all you want, but you won't find a deep dish better anywhere in Tulsa.  I suspect the haters are just cheapasses who don't buy enough toppings.  [}:)]
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: jiminy on December 08, 2006, 04:47:17 PM
I thought Pee Wee was on 61st.  

On another note, did Bros Houligan move to 61st and Mingo, or are they just expanding?
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Cubs on December 08, 2006, 05:24:31 PM
quote:
as far as Savastanos....you can hate on it all you want, but you won't find a deep dish better anywhere in Tulsa. I suspect the haters are just cheapasses who don't buy enough toppings.  

or we just know what real Chicago pizza is and we get annoyed by bad imitations
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: TheArtist on December 08, 2006, 06:47:11 PM
I think I am gonna try this one.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/RestaurantsStory.asp?ID=061208_Re_s16_small
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: BKDotCom on December 08, 2006, 09:48:24 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

quote:
as far as Savastanos....you can hate on it all you want, but you won't find a deep dish better anywhere in Tulsa. I suspect the haters are just cheapasses who don't buy enough toppings.  

or we just know what real Chicago pizza is and we get annoyed by bad imitations

Is it an imitation because it's made in Tulsa?  I thought the Savastano's were from Chicago and have every reason to be "authentic."
(never been to Chicago)
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Rowdy on December 09, 2006, 03:36:16 AM
Saying it's authentic is a joke. I know what pizza was given to me and it wasn't a lack of toppings.  If that's all you can pull out to excuse that restaurant then try again.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Breadburner on December 09, 2006, 09:47:11 AM
quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

I thought Pee Wee was on 61st.  

On another note, did Bros Houligan move to 61st and Mingo, or are they just expanding?



It is on 61st.....And Houligans expanded....
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: MH2010 on December 09, 2006, 12:27:21 PM
I love Savastano's.  I think the deep dish pizza is great.  However, we ususally get the thin crust because the deep dish is so rich.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 10, 2006, 05:20:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

quote:
Originally posted by jiminy

I thought Pee Wee was on 61st.  

On another note, did Bros Houligan move to 61st and Mingo, or are they just expanding?



It is on 61st.....And Houligans expanded....



dolts.. both of you.  Pei Wei (pronounced "pay way" you okie dumbasses) is on 71st next to Red Robin and Bone Fish grill.  The 61st/yale Pei Wei's is an old restaurant and doesnt qualify for this thread.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: BKDotCom on December 10, 2006, 06:48:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller
dolts.. both of you.  Pei Wei (pronounced "pay way" you okie dumbasses) is on 71st next to Red Robin and Bone Fish grill.  The 61st/yale Pei Wei's is an old restaurant and doesnt qualify for this thread.
dolts... all of you.   A carbon copy location of an restaurant already established in town (chain or not) doesn't exactly qualify as "new".
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 10, 2006, 06:53:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by inteller
dolts.. both of you.  Pei Wei (pronounced "pay way" you okie dumbasses) is on 71st next to Red Robin and Bone Fish grill.  The 61st/yale Pei Wei's is an old restaurant and doesnt qualify for this thread.
dolts... all of you.   A carbon copy location of an restaurant already established in town (chain or not) doesn't exactly qualify as "new".



uh yes it does.  as much as you burn in pain thinking otherwise, the Pei Wei i mentioned is a new restaurant and the subject of this thread is best new restuarant of 2006.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: BKDotCom on December 10, 2006, 08:46:46 PM
New location, yes.  New-to-Tulsa restaurant, no.  It's been a dining option in Tulsa for a few years.  I've visited the Yale location a few times over the last few years.  Something tells my my menu options, service, or dining experience isn't going to be any different at the 2nd location.  It's brought nothing new to Tulsa.  Do you get excited when a "new" starbucks opens across the street from an existing one because it's "new"?  Err, I guess you do.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 11, 2006, 08:04:44 AM
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

New location, yes.  New-to-Tulsa restaurant, no.  It's been a dining option in Tulsa for a few years.  I've visited the Yale location a few times over the last few years.  Something tells my my menu options, service, or dining experience isn't going to be any different at the 2nd location.  It's brought nothing new to Tulsa.  Do you get excited when a "new" starbucks opens across the street from an existing one because it's "new"?  Err, I guess you do.



It's a new restaurant....live with it.  Because of this new restuarant I no longer have to trek to 61st/Yale.

And when a new Starbucks opens up in Woodland hills it will be a big deal, because I will not have to go out of my way to get coffee, I can get it while I'm at the mall.  The 111th/Memorial Starbucks opening up will be an equally big deal.

What WASN'T a new restaurant?  Ming's, when they MOVED from 21st/Yale to 71st/Memorial (now closed and reoped as hong kong buffet).  So if Pei Wei's would have closed their 61st/Yale location and moved to 71st that would NOT be a new restaurant.

Its ok, you'll get it through your thick skull some day.[}:)]
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: brunoflipper on December 11, 2006, 09:49:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

New location, yes.  New-to-Tulsa restaurant, no.  It's been a dining option in Tulsa for a few years.  I've visited the Yale location a few times over the last few years.  Something tells my my menu options, service, or dining experience isn't going to be any different at the 2nd location.  It's brought nothing new to Tulsa.  Do you get excited when a "new" starbucks opens across the street from an existing one because it's "new"?  Err, I guess you do.



It's a new restaurant....live with it.  Because of this new restuarant I no longer have to trek to 61st/Yale.

And when a new Starbucks opens up in Woodland hills it will be a big deal, because I will not have to go out of my way to get coffee, I can get it while I'm at the mall.  The 111th/Memorial Starbucks opening up will be an equally big deal.

What WASN'T a new restaurant?  Ming's, when they MOVED from 21st/Yale to 71st/Memorial (now closed and reoped as hong kong buffet).  So if Pei Wei's would have closed their 61st/Yale location and moved to 71st that would NOT be a new restaurant.

Its ok, you'll get it through your thick skull some day.[}:)]

pancakes?
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: NCTulsan on December 11, 2006, 11:05:56 AM
ANYWAY ....

Thanks to those of you who made recommendations.  I may forego Pei Wei for the moment, as we have one here in Charlotte.  The Brasserie on Brookside sounds charming .... I love a good french onion soup.  And I may have to check-out Savastanos just to see which side of this debate I fall.  Thanks again!

NCTulsan
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Cubs on December 12, 2006, 11:43:19 AM
quote:
Is it an imitation because it's made in Tulsa? I thought the Savastano's were from Chicago and have every reason to be "authentic."

Yes they are from the Chicago area. They are from the south 'burbs as am I. Frank, the owner, was inspired by Giordano's (several Chicagoland locations) and Sanfratello's. (only a few locations in the southside/NW Indiana) I prefer the Sanfratello's style of pizza which has a thicker crust and less cheese. Giordano's on the other hand has a thin crust with loads of cheese and toppings. Unfortunately, the Savastano's went more with the Giordano's style.
I still like Savastano's, but I just don't think it is really worth driving all the way to 111th and Memorial.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 12, 2006, 05:49:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Cubs
[br but I just don't think it is really worth driving all the way to 111th and Memorial.



yes, please stay under you rock, we dont want you down here.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Cubs on December 12, 2006, 05:51:23 PM
quote:
yes, please stay under you rock, we dont want you down here.

yeah because my conservative values are so out of place in Bixby ..... give me a break
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 12, 2006, 05:53:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

quote:
yes, please stay under you rock, we dont want you down here.

yeah because my conservative values are so out of place in Bixby ..... give me a break



no, not your values, your stupidity.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Cubs on December 12, 2006, 07:03:50 PM
oh yes my stupidity, sorry you will have to forgive me, im stupid
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: BKDotCom on December 12, 2006, 11:04:08 PM
wow

forum member #1:  that restaurant sucks
forum member #2:  it's not worth the drive
they're in agreement, yet they proceed to argue.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: inteller on December 13, 2006, 07:18:09 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

oh yes my stupidity, sorry you will have to forgive me, im stupid



congratulations, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.
Title: Best new restaurant (or pub) of 2006
Post by: Cubs on December 13, 2006, 11:44:51 AM
and now it is your turn