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Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: NellieBly on November 20, 2006, 01:48:59 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions on turning vhs tapes and casette tapes into mp3s so I can put them on a website? Is this possible?
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: patric on November 20, 2006, 02:20:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

Does anyone have any suggestions on turning vhs tapes and cassette tapes into mp3s so I can put them on a website? Is this possible?


Musicmatch Jukebox ( http://www.musicmatch.com ) has most of the tools you will need, and you can get by with their free version.

This assumes you have a not-too-old computer (Pentium or AMD), a fair amount of memory (512Mb is OK for WindowsXP) and a good amount of space on a recently defragmented hard drive to store it.

Also, make sure you turn off all unnecessary "features" before connecting to the internet (it's a good idea to temporarily disable any broadband connections before installing any sort of shareware or freeware, until you have had a chance to look it over).
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: BKDotCom on November 20, 2006, 03:03:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

Does anyone have any suggestions on turning vhs tapes and casette tapes into mp3s so I can put them on a website? Is this possible?

mp3 (just audio)?
If you're wanting video, you'll need a video capture card OR a lot of the new portable video players are also recorders.  For example, check this out (//%22http://reviews.cnet.com/RCA_Lyra_A_V_Jukebox_RD2780/4505-6499_7-20789364.html?tag=pdtl-list%22) (I just did a quick search).  

I've only put video up on a website once a few years ago and for that I converted the video to quicktime.    Now the way seems to be to use flash (ala YouTube) (everyone has flash in their browser)   I'm sure there are some freeware utils to make it easy to do.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: NellieBly on November 20, 2006, 03:15:44 PM
Being the techno dork that I am I don't even understand the concept of taking an old VHS or cassette and turning it into a video for a website. Are there any local businesses that do it? How much do they charge?

Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: BKDotCom on November 20, 2006, 03:48:04 PM
quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

Being the techno dork that I am I don't even understand the concept of taking an old VHS or cassette and turning it into a video for a website. Are there any local businesses that do it? How much do they charge?
No different in concept as copying from VHS to VHS.  Press play on the VHS, press record on the other device.
I searched for "digital video" in the yellow pages and a couple showed up.   There's a guy/business in my bldg that does video work and he said he'd charge $75/hour of his time.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: inteller on November 21, 2006, 05:09:00 PM
that video place behind mexico lindo at 71st/lewis can do it for $20 i think.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: sgrizzle on November 21, 2006, 08:44:59 PM
A good VCR/DVD Recorder dual deck (looks like this)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BHR1UY.01._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_V56158153_.jpg)

Is a good option for doing it yourself.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: art_cat on December 09, 2006, 02:33:06 PM
Hi, I am a filmmaker. If you want to add titles and transisiton effects, you'll want a decent capture card for your computer. A capture card is usually bundled with editing software, allows you to input your VHS content, then edit it, and save it as an MPEG, other video use files, or "print" to CD or DVD. (You will, of course need a CD or DVD burner in your computer) A CD will hold up to about 15-30 minutes of VHS quality video. You should be able to get a nice capture card for $100 or less. This is, in my view, a far better option than converting an analog video to digital via stand-alone recorders. You will need a computer with a fair amount of muscle: at least a 600mhz cpu, at least 512 Megs of RAM, and at least a 30gig harddrive.

Call or visit the Video Revolution in Tulsa; helpful folks, who will assist you with a purchase or advise about local transfer services. Walgreens used to offer a VHS-to-DVD service. Also, check out VideoMaker (//%22http://www.videomaker.com%22), or Videomaker Magazine at the downtown library. At any rate, good luck!
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: BKDotCom on December 11, 2006, 11:54:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by art_cat
A CD will hold up to about 15-30 minutes of VHS quality video.
Actually, with a good codec (compression/decompression algorithm) such as XviD or DivX, you can fit an entire movie on a CD.  And I'd consider the quality on par or better than VHS
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: inteller on December 11, 2006, 12:08:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by art_cat
A CD will hold up to about 15-30 minutes of VHS quality video.
Actually, with a good codec (compression/decompression algorithm) such as XviD or DivX, you can fit an entire movie on a CD.  And I'd consider the quality on par or better than VHS



you cant make something out of nothing.  if your source material is VHS, compressing it with Xvid or DivX can't make the quality better than VHS.  and, since both xvid and divx are lossy compression algorithms, the quality WILL be less than the original VHS.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: pmcalk on December 11, 2006, 01:05:30 PM
Like Nelliebly, I am a complete technodork, but would like to transfer VHS to DVD.  A few years back, we looked into a DVD recorder.  The problem I found was that the recording formats were very confusing--some -R, some +R, some something else--and not all DVD players played the same format.  The DVD player in our car played something entirely different, which meant we couldn't transfer our kid's VHS to DVD to watch in the car (which was our main goal in the first place).  After asking several people, I was advised to wait a few years, till the formating conflict was resolved.

Has that been resolved?  We would like to transfer our VHS's to DVD in a format that will last a while--I don't want to have to do the same thing a few years from now.  (Who remembers BETA?)
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: inteller on December 11, 2006, 01:17:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk

Like Nelliebly, I am a complete technodork, but would like to transfer VHS to DVD.  A few years back, we looked into a DVD recorder.  The problem I found was that the recording formats were very confusing--some -R, some +R, some something else--and not all DVD players played the same format.  The DVD player in our car played something entirely different, which meant we couldn't transfer our kid's VHS to DVD to watch in the car (which was our main goal in the first place).  After asking several people, I was advised to wait a few years, till the formating conflict was resolved.

Has that been resolved?  We would like to transfer our VHS's to DVD in a format that will last a while--I don't want to have to do the same thing a few years from now.  (Who remembers BETA?)



unless you have a cheap player, it doesnt matter what the format is for playback.  -R and +R only matter when trying to record.  I recently recorded a DVD-R DL and it plays in every DVD player I own.  However, I could only record this disc on one of my computers because the other computer only supported DVD+R DL media.  I use -R media because my drives can record faster on it.  just wiki DVD-R and it will tell you all about it.

Video revolution behind mexico lindo can do all of this conversion stuff for the technically inept.  I know it was $20 from MiniDV to DVD, may be more or less between other formats.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: BKDotCom on December 11, 2006, 01:48:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by art_cat
A CD will hold up to about 15-30 minutes of VHS quality video.
Actually, with a good codec (compression/decompression algorithm) such as XviD or DivX, you can fit an entire movie on a CD.  And I'd consider the quality on par or better than VHS



you cant make something out of nothing.  if your source material is VHS, compressing it with Xvid or DivX can't make the quality better than VHS.  and, since both xvid and divx are lossy compression algorithms, the quality WILL be less than the original VHS.

Thank you!  My comparison to VHS was based on a good quality source, such as DVD or HD.  If the source is VHS, you probably won't see much degradation in "quality" by converting/saving in aforementioned lossy formats.  This falls under "on par with."
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: BKDotCom on December 11, 2006, 01:55:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller
unless you have a cheap player, it doesnt matter what the format is for playback.  -R and +R only matter when trying to record.  I recently recorded a DVD-R DL and it plays in every DVD player I own.  However, I could only record this disc on one of my computers because the other computer only supported DVD+R DL media.  I use -R media because my drives can record faster on it.  just wiki DVD-R and it will tell you all about it.

+R and -R matter very much when it comes to play back and support on DVD players.  -R is the media to buy if you want to be able to play it on most, if not all, players.  +R, while technically a better (it's debatable) format, is not as widely supported.   Surprisingly, it seems to be the cheaper bargain, players that handle +R the best.  For example my JVC DVD player won't play DVD+Rs (it's an older player)
Wikipedia Info (//%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R%22)
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: pmcalk on December 11, 2006, 02:26:09 PM
What about DVD-RAM?  Also, what are the risks that one the formats disappears in the future, thus rendering my DVDs useless?  It does appear that newer DVD players play all formats, but will that continue in the future?
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: inteller on December 11, 2006, 05:43:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by inteller
unless you have a cheap player, it doesnt matter what the format is for playback.  -R and +R only matter when trying to record.  I recently recorded a DVD-R DL and it plays in every DVD player I own.  However, I could only record this disc on one of my computers because the other computer only supported DVD+R DL media.  I use -R media because my drives can record faster on it.  just wiki DVD-R and it will tell you all about it.

+R and -R matter very much when it comes to play back and support on DVD players.  -R is the media to buy if you want to be able to play it on most, if not all, players.  +R, while technically a better (it's debatable) format, is not as widely supported.   Surprisingly, it seems to be the cheaper bargain, players that handle +R the best.  For example my JVC DVD player won't play DVD+Rs (it's an older player)
Wikipedia Info (//%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R%22)



well then your player is crap.  get a new one.  my panasonic doesnt have problems playing anything.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: art_cat on December 17, 2006, 04:12:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk

What about DVD-RAM?  Also, what are the risks that one the formats disappears in the future, thus rendering my DVDs useless?  It does appear that newer DVD players play all formats, but will that continue in the future?



I'd be happy to set an appointment to discuss this further; if I were you, I'd feel confused by all the disagreement in answers. Why do so many people here think they are experts in all fields? Do you have a VHS VCR? If the answer is yes, and alls you want to do is make dvds of your VHS tapes, sans titles, buy a DVD recorder, like the LiteOn 5005x on sale at Office depot for $50, and do a simple transfer. The 5005x is like a vcr, which arrives with the cables needed for transferring VHS tapes. Most of what other people have posted here is either not true, or at best misleading. I am a filmmaker with over 20 years experience in video and film, and would be happy to meet with you at no charge to discuss this further. Let me know...
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: art_cat on December 17, 2006, 04:41:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by inteller
unless you have a cheap player, it doesnt matter what the format is for playback.  -R and +R only matter when trying to record.  I recently recorded a DVD-R DL and it plays in every DVD player I own.  However, I could only record this disc on one of my computers because the other computer only supported DVD+R DL media.  I use -R media because my drives can record faster on it.  just wiki DVD-R and it will tell you all about it.

+R and -R matter very much when it comes to play back and support on DVD players.  -R is the media to buy if you want to be able to play it on most, if not all, players.  +R, while technically a better (it's debatable) format, is not as widely supported.   Surprisingly, it seems to be the cheaper bargain, players that handle +R the best.  For example my JVC DVD player won't play DVD+Rs (it's an older player)
Wikipedia Info (//%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R%22)



well then your player is crap.  get a new one.  my panasonic doesnt have problems playing anything.


This, your response, sounds what I'd expect to hear from from a so-called PC-tech; Why do you seem to be an authority on so many different topics?
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: pmcalk on December 17, 2006, 05:08:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by art_cat

quote:
Originally posted by pmcalk

What about DVD-RAM?  Also, what are the risks that one the formats disappears in the future, thus rendering my DVDs useless?  It does appear that newer DVD players play all formats, but will that continue in the future?



I'd be happy to set an appointment to discuss this further; if I were you, I'd feel confused by all the disagreement in answers. Why do so many people here think they are experts in all fields? Do you have a VHS VCR? If the answer is yes, and alls you want to do is make dvds of your VHS tapes, sans titles, buy a DVD recorder, like the LiteOn 5005x on sale at Office depot for $50, and do a simple transfer. The 5005x is like a vcr, which arrives with the cables needed for transferring VHS tapes. Most of what other people have posted here is either not true, or at best misleading. I am a filmmaker with over 20 years experience in video and film, and would be happy to meet with you at no charge to discuss this further. Let me know...



Thanks for the offer. I believe will wait till this summer to buy a dvd recorder--we've already exceeded our budget for Christmas.
Title: Video tape to MP3
Post by: inteller on December 17, 2006, 06:32:43 PM
quote:
Originally posted by art_cat

quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by BKDotCom

quote:
Originally posted by inteller
unless you have a cheap player, it doesnt matter what the format is for playback.  -R and +R only matter when trying to record.  I recently recorded a DVD-R DL and it plays in every DVD player I own.  However, I could only record this disc on one of my computers because the other computer only supported DVD+R DL media.  I use -R media because my drives can record faster on it.  just wiki DVD-R and it will tell you all about it.

+R and -R matter very much when it comes to play back and support on DVD players.  -R is the media to buy if you want to be able to play it on most, if not all, players.  +R, while technically a better (it's debatable) format, is not as widely supported.   Surprisingly, it seems to be the cheaper bargain, players that handle +R the best.  For example my JVC DVD player won't play DVD+Rs (it's an older player)
Wikipedia Info (//%22http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-R%22)



well then your player is crap.  get a new one.  my panasonic doesnt have problems playing anything.


This, your response, sounds what I'd expect to hear from from a so-called PC-tech; Why do you seem to be an authority on so many different topics?



you think it takes a video editing "expert" to figure out recordable media formats?  i guess wisdom -doesn't- come with age.