http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061108/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rumsfeld_resigns
Good riddance.
Wow! Thanks America!
Rummy out. Montana Blue. WoooooooHOOOOOOO
One of the things I've heard most about George Bush from his allies is that he is stubborn and hard headed. I think the slap in the face America gave the Republicans must've made him wake up somewhat.
Pinch me, I think I'm dreaming...
On the flip side, he says he's keeping Cheney. Guess we can't expect two miracles in one day.
I didn't see THIS coming. [:O]
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Originally posted by snopes
One of the things I've heard most about George Bush from his allies is that he is stubborn and hard headed. I think the slap in the face America gave the Republicans must've made him wake up somewhat.
That's possible. I didn't hear his announcement but from what I understand he finally admitted that things weren't going well in Iraq. Whatever brought this move about, I applaud it.
Will this help Bush's job approval rating? Today's Rasmussen shows Bush's job approval at 45% .... will this help it go up a couple points?
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Will this help Bush's job approval rating? Today's Rasmussen shows Bush's job approval at 45% .... will this help it go up a couple points?
If that's the case, his approval has
already gone up--quite a bit.
I am actually willing to give the President some credit here. Maybe its not about polls, per se, maybe its about a new-found ability to listen to the will of the American people. Just last week he said Rummy was going to stay through '08. Today, he listened. Now, what about tomorrow?
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If that's the case, his approval has already gone up--quite a bit.
Well it goes up and down a little every day. The average over the past week is a little more than 43%.
Rumsfeld should have been fired at least two years ago.
It's disheartening to see a president tolerate incompetance for so long.
I believe that overall, Bush's approval rating is going to move closer to a solid 50% soon. Rumsfeld is a minor factor IMO. I believe that Bush can find new popularity with the new congress. There are going to be some real items on the table, if everyone's honest and some things get done, that's great for Bush. He'll get credit for all kinds of things that simply weren't possible under the GOP congress.
I do wonder about Rove however, and I wonder if Bush is still going to run the office like a campaign. I hope not.
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I believe that overall, Bush's approval rating is going to move closer to a solid 50% soon. Rumsfeld is a minor factor IMO. I believe that Bush can find new popularity with the new congress. There are going to be some real items on the table, if everyone's honest and some things get done, that's great for Bush. He'll get credit for all kinds of things that simply weren't possible under the GOP congress.
I do wonder about Rove however, and I wonder if Bush is still going to run the office like a campaign. I hope not.
Rove--after Rummy, that's a "courtesy" resignation that this country could really use.
Rove might step down, too. He's been implicated with Abramoff scandal and very likely the Foley scandal. And who knows what Scooter Libby will blab when he gets tried for perjury?
Rove got fired by Bush's dad for being politically dirty. Chickens are coming home to roost.
But, mainly, Rove will probably step down because his boss' party lost. It's like the NFL -- losers don't keep their jobs long.
If I were Bush, I'd fire Rove and hire Howard Baker in a heartbeat.
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If that's the case, his approval has already gone up--quite a bit.
Well it goes up and down a little every day. The average over the past week is a little more than 43%.
[}:)]
That might be the average if you take only FrontPage and TownHall polls. The other polls have him a lot closer to 35%.
I'm just looking at Rasmussen.
Rasmussen routinely ranks him eight to ten points higher than other polls. On November 6 a CNN poll put him at 35%. But what I find more interesting than that is what the rest of the world seems to think of him. EKOS Research (a Canadian polling company) did a poll in Canada, Britain, Israel and Mexico. Even after the huge buffering provided by Israel, Bush was ranked the third most dangerous man of five listed in the poll. Bush was beat out by Osama bin Laden and Kim Jong Il (North Korean leader). But he was ranked as MORE dangerous than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. In fact, Mexico put Bush at number 2, second only to OBL.
I bet there are some Republicans who lost last night who calling moving companies today wondering: "Why the F*&$ didn't he do that a couple of months ago?!?!?"
Looking at what happened with a lot of the governor's races around the country as well and the slaughter that the GOP took on state offices in Oklahoma, I can't help but think that there were people so fed up with the handling of the war, that they just voted party-line Democrat.
I am optimistic about the next two years with the change in Congress and getting Rummy out. I just hope Pelosi sticks to her word on her promises as speaker.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15627055/site/newsweek/
I'm glad Bush is dumping the NeoCons, and bringing in his dad's group. These guys are fully capable of figuring out Iraq.
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I bet there are some Republicans who lost last night who calling moving companies today wondering: "Why the F*&$ didn't he do that a couple of months ago?!?!?"
Looking at what happened with a lot of the governor's races around the country as well and the slaughter that the GOP took on state offices in Oklahoma, I can't help but think that there were people so fed up with the handling of the war, that they just voted party-line Democrat.
I am optimistic about the next two years with the change in Congress and getting Rummy out. I just hope Pelosi sticks to her word on her promises as speaker.
Bush should've cleaned house 2 years ago when he could've gotten rid of Cheney too.
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Originally posted by Conan71
I bet there are some Republicans who lost last night who calling moving companies today wondering: "Why the F*&$ didn't he do that a couple of months ago?!?!?"
Looking at what happened with a lot of the governor's races around the country as well and the slaughter that the GOP took on state offices in Oklahoma, I can't help but think that there were people so fed up with the handling of the war, that they just voted party-line Democrat.
I am optimistic about the next two years with the change in Congress and getting Rummy out. I just hope Pelosi sticks to her word on her promises as speaker.
Bush should've cleaned house 2 years ago when he could've gotten rid of Cheney too.
That couldn't have happened. Bush is so eaten up with hubris that he thought he could do whatever the hell he wanted and he wasn't accountable to anyone but the voices he hears (God, supposedly). Losing the House AND the Senate must have woke him up a little bit. We can only hope.
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Originally posted by Conan71
I bet there are some Republicans who lost last night who calling moving companies today wondering: "Why the F*&$ didn't he do that a couple of months ago?!?!?"
Looking at what happened with a lot of the governor's races around the country as well and the slaughter that the GOP took on state offices in Oklahoma, I can't help but think that there were people so fed up with the handling of the war, that they just voted party-line Democrat.
I am optimistic about the next two years with the change in Congress and getting Rummy out. I just hope Pelosi sticks to her word on her promises as speaker.
Bush should've cleaned house 2 years ago when he could've gotten rid of Cheney too.
That couldn't have happened. Bush is so eaten up with hubris that he thought he could do whatever the hell he wanted and he wasn't accountable to anyone but the voices he hears (God, supposedly). Losing the House AND the Senate must have woke him up a little bit. We can only hope.
And for the past 6 years, he did do whatever he wanted, and when he had a Congress and a cable news channel on his side, well, who cares what the will of the people is?
I love these old threads.
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Bush should've cleaned house 2 years ago when he could've gotten rid of Cheney too.
It's one of the hard truths that I look at nearly every time I look at this administration. On the one hand, Cheney's posse, in a way, lead Bush's Presidency off a cliff. On the other hand, Bush is ultimately responsible even if by accident.
In a way, it's difficult to blame the Iraq War or anything on Bush. It's like claiming the most irresponsible president we've ever had, is responsible. Not sure which one is worse, an irresponsible president, or a president that is responsible for the actions of this administration.
That is a very sober, lucid thought.
What have you done with the old MichaelC?
Recycle - I had that exact thought and follow-up question.
Last seen heading for a redwood hottub, sneakers flying out the passenger window: who is this lucid new guy?
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Originally posted by snopes
One of the things I've heard most about George Bush from his allies is that he is stubborn and hard headed. I think the slap in the face America gave the Republicans must've made him wake up somewhat.
Then again, I don't believe he ever claimed to represent the will of the people.
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Originally posted by snopes
One of the things I've heard most about George Bush from his allies is that he is stubborn and hard headed. I think the slap in the face America gave the Republicans must've made him wake up somewhat.
Then again, I don't believe he ever claimed to represent the will of the people.
True....... He is the
"Deciderer"...
Hey.. that's a heavy weight for any cowpoke from Crawford..Just ask Ted Nugent when he gets here....
Kinda funny really... Ted's Father was a CIA and George's Father was a CIA....
Maybe Ted will run for President.?
"Maybe Ted will run for President.?" - rico
Would make the Whitehouse Youtube clips less embarrassing to watch.
er, waitabit, 70's rock in Leopard-skin?well...at least he could keep a beat.
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I believe that overall, Bush's approval rating is going to move closer to a solid 50% soon. Rumsfeld is a minor factor IMO. I believe that Bush can find new popularity with the new congress. There are going to be some real items on the table, if everyone's honest and some things get done, that's great for Bush. He'll get credit for all kinds of things that simply weren't possible under the GOP congress.
I do wonder about Rove however, and I wonder if Bush is still going to run the office like a campaign. I hope not.
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It was pure optimism. I really did believe that Bush wanted to do something with his last two years. Something that would build a decent legacy. Even LBJ, his legacy isn't all Vietnam. Still, it's possible, it's just fading away fast.
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Before this thread was hijacked it was old. Moving on now.