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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: SXSW on July 17, 2023, 01:29:48 PM

Title: 13th & Utica
Post by: SXSW on July 17, 2023, 01:29:48 PM
Ugh another car-oriented drive-through in midtown - this time it's Chick-Fil-A.  Hopefully there is still time to make them amend their site plan to bring the restaurant to the 13th & Utica intersection (SW corner) with the drive-through lanes south of it (where the site is several feet lower than Utica) and parking to the west along Terrace Dr

Board of Adjustment Meeting 7/19 1 pm

http://www.tulsaplanning.org/tmapc/cases/Z-7729.pdf (http://www.tulsaplanning.org/tmapc/cases/Z-7729.pdf)
Title: Re: 13th & Utica
Post by: DowntownDan on July 17, 2023, 02:14:00 PM
Just awful, but the worst of it is they are including the western part of that huge open space which is currently RM-2. It needs to stay residential, in my opinion. Chick-Fil-A doesn't need that part of the lot, so it tells me they are looking at a larger suburban strip mall for that area. I'll never understand why the planning department makes a big deal of these big public meetings, small area plans, etc., when they never do a damn thing when it comes to preserving midtown as midtown. Anyone who wants to do anything commercial gets approved over objections. I'll voice opposition knowing its essentially pointless.
Title: Re: 13th & Utica
Post by: Tulsan on July 17, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
According to their application, the tract west of Troost is supposed to be a healthcare hospitality house to provide lodging for families and caregivers of inpatients at area hospitals.
Title: Re: 13th & Utica
Post by: Red Arrow on July 17, 2023, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: Tulsan on July 17, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
According to their application, the tract west of Troost is supposed to be a healthcare hospitality house to provide lodging for families and caregivers of inpatients at area hospitals who ate too much fast food.

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Title: Re: 13th & Utica
Post by: SXSW on July 18, 2023, 08:13:42 AM
Quote from: Tulsan on July 17, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
According to their application, the tract west of Troost is supposed to be a healthcare hospitality house to provide lodging for families and caregivers of inpatients at area hospitals.

Sounds like a Ronald McDonald House or something similar

This entire site was originally going to be a senior housing complex operated either by or in conjunction with the Lutheran Church.  They ended up selling the lots instead.  Too bad that seems like a better use of that land.
Title: Re: 13th & Utica
Post by: DowntownDan on July 18, 2023, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: Tulsan on July 17, 2023, 03:42:52 PM
According to their application, the tract west of Troost is supposed to be a healthcare hospitality house to provide lodging for families and caregivers of inpatients at area hospitals.

I didn't catch that, but I assume Hospitality House, which has a small apartment complex just east of Utica. That would be fine if designed correctly. Still, nothing about that corridor indicates that a Chick-fil-A which is enormously popular and 99% drive thru is a fit for that lot.

https://www.hhtulsa.org/