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Talk About Tulsa => PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning => Topic started by: Red Arrow on May 18, 2016, 10:17:09 PM

Title: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Red Arrow on May 18, 2016, 10:17:09 PM
My sister sent me this link to pictures of trolleys in Philadelphia, PA in the mid to late 60s.  Some of the routes still exist but I believe most are gone.

http://hiddencityphila.org/2014/05/capturing-late-1960s-philadelphia-trolleys-neon-cobblestones-and-all/

Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: AquaMan on May 19, 2016, 08:46:48 PM
I bet that was fun for you. My first thought is about all the overhead wires! It was like a spider web. Wonder what happened to all those trolley cars.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 20, 2016, 09:53:46 AM
I gotta do some deep digging...I know I have pictures of Tulsa's electric trolley that ran on north Harvard...with me, siblings, and Mother in the pic....

Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Red Arrow on May 20, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: AquaMan on May 19, 2016, 08:46:48 PM
I bet that was fun for you. My first thought is about all the overhead wires! It was like a spider web. Wonder what happened to all those trolley cars.

Yep.  I forwarded the link to a friend that grew up in Philly (I grew up in the burbs).  He said he recognized all the locations.

Most of the trolley cars were scrapped but...

Trolley museums around the country got some.  Philadelphia actually had about 15 of them overhauled with modern running gear and added air conditioning for use on one route.  Some of Philadelphia's cars are running in San Francisco.  A few other cities also have refurbished PCC (President's Conference Committee) cars in use on heritage lines.

The overhead wires are one thing that anti-trolley folks always bring up for aesthetics.  

This is about 100 yds from the house where I grew up.  The trolley ran on a private ROW and only had to put up with traffic at road crossings for most of the route from Upper Darby (69th St Terminal) to Media (Delaware County seat).
https://goo.gl/maps/o2xeJ1Vstd32

More info on Philly Trolleys
http://www.phillytrolley.org



Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: swake on May 20, 2016, 08:24:07 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 20, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
Yep.  I forwarded the link to a friend that grew up in Philly (I grew up in the burbs).  He said he recognized all the locations.

Most of the trolley cars were scrapped but...

Trolley museums around the country got some.  Philadelphia actually had about 15 of them overhauled with modern running gear and added air conditioning for use on one route.  Some of Philadelphia's cars are running in San Francisco.  A few other cities also have refurbished PCC (President's Conference Committee) cars in use on heritage lines.

The overhead wires are one thing that anti-trolley folks always bring up for aesthetics.  

This is about 100 yds from the house where I grew up.  The trolley ran on a private ROW and only had to put up with traffic at road crossings for most of the route from Upper Darby (69th St Terminal) to Media (Delaware County seat).
https://goo.gl/maps/o2xeJ1Vstd32

More info on Philly Trolleys
http://www.phillytrolley.org





That's maybe one mile from my daughter's college.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Conan71 on May 20, 2016, 09:24:06 PM
Wow, I got lost in those links for about a half hour.  I see there is still a Red Arrow line.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Red Arrow on May 22, 2016, 11:50:08 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 20, 2016, 09:24:06 PM
Wow, I got lost in those links for about a half hour.  I see there is still a Red Arrow line.

Officially it's part of SEPTA with route numbers but I understand the locals still call it the Red Arrow.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: cannon_fodder on May 26, 2016, 08:56:11 AM
FWIW, Tulsa's trolley's are sitting in Sand Springs...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aTzwsfNcqZc/TylQTvNB0JI/AAAAAAAAHXc/bS9fcnAbotU/s640/339907_10150529206949658_845869657_8381427_1360679677_o.jpg)

http://www.tulsagal.net/2012/02/tulsa-trolley-restoration-project.html
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Townsend on May 26, 2016, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: cannon_fodder on May 26, 2016, 08:56:11 AM
FWIW, Tulsa's trolley's are sitting in Sand Springs...

I see, like most things transportation in Oklahoma, maintenance has been deferred.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Red Arrow on May 26, 2016, 09:22:54 PM
Quote from: cannon_fodder on May 26, 2016, 08:56:11 AM
FWIW, Tulsa's trolley's are sitting in Sand Springs...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aTzwsfNcqZc/TylQTvNB0JI/AAAAAAAAHXc/bS9fcnAbotU/s640/339907_10150529206949658_845869657_8381427_1360679677_o.jpg)

How recent is that picture?

This is where they are/were.  I can't tell if they are some of the debris or not.
https://goo.gl/maps/jKG7yavPdJ52

Edit: forgot the link
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: AquaMan on May 26, 2016, 10:09:43 PM
I rent some warehouse space near the old railroad maintenance area pictured on Morrow road. I don't remember seeing them there during the past month but I'll look closer. My memory is that they moved them from there and were in process of being restored. They had been used as chicken coops.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: saintnicster on May 28, 2016, 12:16:19 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 26, 2016, 09:22:54 PM
How recent is that picture?

This is where they are/were.  I can't tell if they are some of the debris or not.
https://goo.gl/maps/jKG7yavPdJ52

Edit: forgot the link

Picture's from at least 2012 http://www.tulsagal.net/search/label/Tulsa%20Trolley%20Restoration

That blog post links to the FB group.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/326991704008251/  Looks like they're making progress
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Red Arrow on May 28, 2016, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: saintnicster on May 28, 2016, 12:16:19 AM
Picture's from at least 2012 http://www.tulsagal.net/search/label/Tulsa%20Trolley%20Restoration

That blog post links to the FB group.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/326991704008251/  Looks like they're making progress

I don't do Facebook and cannot get to the site since a log-in is required.

I have been to the site in Sand Springs and thought that the last time I was there, the trolley carcasses were gone but I wasn't sure.

Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: AquaMan on May 28, 2016, 08:29:51 PM
They aren't in that location any more, unless they are stored in one of the buildings.
Title: Re: Trolley Pictures
Post by: Red Arrow on May 29, 2016, 02:09:11 PM
Quote from: AquaMan on May 28, 2016, 08:29:51 PM
They aren't in that location any more, unless they are stored in one of the buildings.

Thank you