Here's a list of courses at schools that may help with choosing where to send them... ;D
http://buzzpo.com/11-riculous-liberal-courses-ivy-league/
Quote from: guido911 on September 15, 2014, 04:35:29 PM
Here's a list of courses at schools that may help with choosing where to send them... ;D
http://buzzpo.com/11-riculous-liberal-courses-ivy-league/
"Steer" them to something technical!!
Oh...almost forgot...it's Groucho!!
You miss the point of a liberal arts class.
While these might be worthless classes, they might also be very valuable classes. I don't think you can judge based on a blogger's list of stuff he thought was stupid.
If taught well, each of these topics would force the student to participate in class, do independent research, work as a team to give presentations, develop a paper showing critical thought, and get it all done by a deadline.
These all can develop valuable skills in the future leaders of our country.
While a complete class load of these topics would be unadvised, an occasional class like this be very helpful.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 15, 2014, 06:19:23 PM
You miss the point of a liberal arts class.
While these might be worthless classes, they might also be very valuable classes. I don't think you can judge based on a blogger's list of stuff he thought was stupid.
If taught well, each of these topics would force the student to participate in class, do independent research, work as a team to give presentations, develop a paper showing critical thought, and get it all done by a deadline.
These all can develop valuable skills in the future leaders of our country.
While a complete class load of these topics would be unadvised, an occasional class like this be very helpful.
First of all, take it for the humor value. That's what I did. I am not going to flush Brown or Harvard because of these (in my opinion) DUMB classes. Second, did you take any of these classes in undergrad? I do not even remember them being available/offered. I'd like to know how many in the forum took these sorts of classes, and if so did it prepare them for getting a job?
Quote from: guido911 on September 15, 2014, 07:39:36 PM
First of all, take it for the humor value. That's what I did. I am not going to flush Brown or Harvard because of these (in my opinion) DUMB classes. Second, did you take any of these classes in undergrad? I do not even remember them being available/offered. I'd like to know how many in the forum took these sorts of classes, and if so did it prepare them for getting a job?
Took philosophy.... that was great for engineering. I can wax philosophical about programming languages.
Liberal arts classes like those and others will certainly allow for the development of a more well rounded personality. Something sorely missing in our sound bite society now.
My daughter is a freshman going to one of those evil back east elitist liberal arts schools. Worse yet, she wants to major in Philosophy.
Quote from: swake on September 15, 2014, 10:21:44 PM
My daughter is a freshman going to one of those evil back east elitist liberal arts schools. Worse yet, she wants to major in Philosophy.
Just gotta ask....what is she gonna do for a living? (Many years ago, had a friend who got the whole thing in philosophy - through PhD. Didn't work in the field....)
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 15, 2014, 10:27:04 PM
Just gotta ask....what is she gonna do for a living? (Many years ago, had a friend who got the whole thing in philosophy - through PhD. Didn't work in the field....)
Guid will love this.
Law School.
Quote from: swake on September 15, 2014, 10:53:52 PM
Guid will love this.
Law School.
Great degree for bar tending and community organizing as well. :)
On the serious side, I'm grateful to hear she's getting a great shot at a great education and you and Mrs. Swake have done a great job getting her there. I'm just thankful I only have a few months left until I get a really large raise.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 16, 2014, 12:37:01 AM
I'm just thankful I only have a few months left until I get a really large raise.
That's what my father thought too when my sister (youngest of us 3 kids) graduated from OU. Good Luck.
:D
Quote from: swake on September 15, 2014, 10:53:52 PM
Guid will love this.
Law School.
There is a fantastic path through that maze if she went technical... get an engineering degree at BS level, then go to law school - become a patent lawyer!!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 16, 2014, 08:44:29 AM
There is a fantastic path through that maze if she went technical... get an engineering degree at BS level, then go to law school - become a patent lawyer!!
Yes, I have heard about that, lots of MBAs these days have an undergrad in Philosophy too. We will see what she thinks next year when she can declare a major.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 16, 2014, 12:37:01 AM
Great degree for bar tending and community organizing as well. :)
On the serious side, I'm grateful to hear she's getting a great shot at a great education and you and Mrs. Swake have done a great job getting her there. I'm just thankful I only have a few months left until I get a really large raise.
Congratulations to you on that. Who pays for grad school?
Quote from: swake on September 16, 2014, 08:59:01 AM
Congratulations to you on that. Who pays for grad school?
She's shown no interest. She's got a couple of potential leads for jobs at this point.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 16, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
She's shown no interest. She's got a couple of potential leads for jobs at this point.
Good for her. It's tough out there for new grads right now.
Quote from: swake on September 16, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
Good for her. It's tough out there for new grads right now.
It's tough for everyone out there right now.... There are a couple of "stay at home" jobs in Tulsa area right now that were specifically written, in exacting detail, for my background and experience. Between being too old (and a certain amount of blacklisting) - just not happening. And no, for the cynics (realists?)...it isn't my attitude - this persona is very different from work....
One of the kids has been trying to get on at one of the national laboratories for almost 2 years, too. Looks like it might actually happen in the next 12 to 18 months.... The economy is good, jobs are less so.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 16, 2014, 10:29:57 AM
It's tough for everyone out there right now.... There are a couple of "stay at home" jobs in Tulsa area right now that were specifically written, in exacting detail, for my background and experience.
Me, too.
Quote from: guido911 on September 16, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
Me, too.
Actually, not stay at home in the classic sense - more like reduced travel - not gone all the time....stay in Tulsa.
That could lead to being able to attend a TulsaNow luncheon...