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Title: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Townsend on September 09, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
There are some threads talking about probable Democrat candidates for US President.

What say you about the probable Republican candidates?

Who can we look at with promise and hope for a good leader? 

Someone who can work with both sides of the aisle?
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2014, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: Townsend on September 09, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
There are some threads talking about probable Democrat candidates for US President.

What say you about the probable Republican candidates?

Who can we look at with promise and hope for a good leader? 

Someone who can work with both sides of the aisle?

Anyone capable of it will be strafed by deeply partisan darlings of the far right.  Sort of like how Scrotorum went after Romney.  If the GOP wants to win, they seriously need to limit the number of debates leading up to and during the primaries.  I've never been so concerned over a vacuum in leadership in the White House, HOR, and Senate since I started voting.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Gaspar on September 09, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
It's a good time to play the waiting game.  I assume Romney will run agains on the "See, I told you so." platform. 

No one has a snowballs chance in hell to beat a Hillary/Booker ticket though.

Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Hoss on September 09, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on September 09, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
It's a good time to play the waiting game.  I assume Romney will run agains on the "See, I told you so." platform

No one has a snowballs chance in hell to beat a Hillary/Booker ticket though.



Not likely.  However, he was/is a politician, so...

http://www.christianpost.com/news/mitt-romney-announces-he-will-not-run-for-president-criticizes-obama-on-isis-policy-126011/
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: guido911 on September 09, 2014, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on September 09, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
It's a good time to play the waiting game.  I assume Romney will run agains on the "See, I told you so." platform. 

No one has a snowballs chance in hell to beat a Hillary/Booker ticket though.



Booker? I like him, but he is hardly a VP candidate. I am also inclined to wait--at least until after the Nov. election.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Townsend on January 22, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
ABC is reporting "Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney to meet in Utah".
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Conan71 on January 22, 2015, 12:29:08 PM
Quote from: Townsend on January 22, 2015, 12:15:37 PM
ABC is reporting "Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney to meet in Utah".

A meeting of re-treads.  Jeb Bush could promise me unlimited hookers and cocaine and I still wouldn't vote for another Bush in the White House.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Townsend on January 22, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 22, 2015, 12:29:08 PM
A meeting of re-treads.  Jeb Bush could promise me unlimited hookers and cocaine and I still wouldn't vote for another Bush in the White House.

Guess I know what not to get you for your birthday
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: RecycleMichael on January 22, 2015, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 22, 2015, 12:29:08 PM
A meeting of re-treads.  Jeb Bush could promise me unlimited hookers and cocaine and I still wouldn't vote for another Bush in the White House.

That is the other brother in the Bush family...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/25/bush.brother.reut/
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Townsend on January 22, 2015, 12:50:42 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on January 22, 2015, 12:42:09 PM
That is the other brother in the Bush family...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/25/bush.brother.reut/

Future US AG
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Conan71 on January 22, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on January 22, 2015, 12:42:09 PM
That is the other brother in the Bush family...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/25/bush.brother.reut/

Yep, ol' Silverado Neil.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: guido911 on January 27, 2015, 03:17:41 AM
Walker/Rubio. Or vice versa.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: carltonplace on January 27, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
Ted Cruz, he is a new senator and was a community organizer. He sounds perfect.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Conan71 on January 27, 2015, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: carltonplace on January 27, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
Ted Cruz, he is a new senator and was a community organizer. He sounds perfect.

Yeah, I don't think that worked out so well last time we did that.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on January 27, 2015, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: carltonplace on January 27, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
Ted Cruz, he is a new senator and was a community organizer. He sounds perfect.


If Obama wasn't eligible to be President, the Cruz certainly wouldn't be - for almost the same reasons - yeah, we was born to a woman who was US citizen, but he wasn't even born in the US.  Where are the birthers when ya need them....?
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Conan71 on January 27, 2015, 11:11:16 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 27, 2015, 10:56:39 AM

If Obama wasn't eligible to be President, the Cruz certainly wouldn't be - for almost the same reasons - yeah, we was born to a woman who was US citizen, but he wasn't even born in the US.  Where are the birthers when ya need them....?


Don't worry, I'm sure Hillary's hit machine will get on that.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on January 27, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2015, 11:11:16 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure Hillary's hit machine will get on that.


Doubtful.  They actually have just barely enough brains to understand reality....where-as the birthers don't.  But hey, they got Rupert Murdoch, Koch brothers, and Donald Trump to lead them and tell them what to think....

Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: guido911 on January 27, 2015, 02:40:30 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 27, 2015, 11:17:42 AM

Doubtful.  They actually have just barely enough brains to understand reality....where-as the birthers don't.  But hey, they got Rupert Murdoch, Koch brothers, and Donald Trump to lead them and tell them what to think....



You do know Hillary was the original "birther", right? But I agree there may be a Murdochian plot afoot. I hope the black helicopters are keeping close tabs on this....
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 27, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
Conan, I'd rethink Jeb if I were you. I'm against political dynasties as much as the next guy - but he deserves a fair look.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Jeb_Bush.htm

Obviously things I don't like and I'm not advocating for him. But it appears at a glance that he can be pragmatic and he is willing to change his position (see, e.g., gay marriage). He isn't a tea party ideologue or a religious right candidate, so that's something.

Thus far, I haven't seen a candidate from either side that has be excited.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on January 27, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
We desperately need that third option - none of the above.

Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: guido911 on January 28, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Murdochian plots not reaching into Obama's inner circle? Muahahahahaha!!!!

(http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/sunni-muslim-valerie-jarrett-dines-with-fox-news-rupert-murdoch.jpg)
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Conan71 on January 28, 2015, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: cannon_fodder on January 27, 2015, 05:24:57 PM
Conan, I'd rethink Jeb if I were you. I'm against political dynasties as much as the next guy - but he deserves a fair look.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Jeb_Bush.htm

Obviously things I don't like and I'm not advocating for him. But it appears at a glance that he can be pragmatic and he is willing to change his position (see, e.g., gay marriage). He isn't a tea party ideologue or a religious right candidate, so that's something.

Thus far, I haven't seen a candidate from either side that has be excited.

If Jeb's last name were anything else, I think he'd have a chance.  I'm fine with where he stands on the issues from a pure electability stand-point, I believe people are tired of political dynasties.  I want to see a genuine moderate from either the Democrats or Republicans (sorry a third party has no chance) who is not from a family of political dynasties.

Obama is nowhere close to a moderate, Bush II might have been were he not beholden to the far right elements of the GOP on social issues.  When I think of moderates, I think of Clinton or Reagan.  Love them or hate them, history shows they were able to bring both sides to the table.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: Townsend on January 30, 2015, 10:13:00 AM
Dang it Mitt.
Title: Re: Republican Presidential Prospects, best bet - 2016
Post by: carltonplace on January 30, 2015, 11:06:22 AM
Looks like its going to be Bush v Clinton...ugh.