Samsung is resuming using child-labor since they are just contractors and not direct-hire:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970483/samsung-enforces-only-30-percent-of-its-zero-tolerance-child-labor-policy
Quote from: sgrizzle on August 05, 2014, 10:14:28 AM
Samsung is resuming using child-labor since they are just contractors and not direct-hire:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/5/5970483/samsung-enforces-only-30-percent-of-its-zero-tolerance-child-labor-policy
Have they started sub-contracting the children from Governor Fallin and her new Fort Sill Immigrant program?
Kids need to be kept busy....Keeps them out of trouble.....
Quote from: Breadburner on August 05, 2014, 01:05:44 PM
Kids need to be kept busy....Keeps them out of trouble.....
And whoever built my Samsung flatscreens did a heck of a job....
Quote from: Townsend on August 05, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Have they started sub-contracting the children from Governor Fallin and her new Fort Sill Immigrant program?
I thought that was Michelle Bachmann's plan.
ADHD would be much less prevalent if we got them to work earlier in life.....Like the old days......Ahem.....!!
How else can you build cell phones? Everyone knows adult fingers are too big.
I just get the feeling that some in the thread are just itching to jump on this: ;D ;D
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5812918272/hA3AFE7DF/)
Quote from: TeeDub on August 05, 2014, 04:18:59 PM
How else can you build cell phones? Everyone knows adult fingers are too big.
Anyone else see the movie "Crazy People"?
They put the Playskool tool sets to good use in other countries.....
Quote from: guido911 on August 05, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
I just get the feeling that some in the thread are just itching to jump on this:
I'm surprised you're okay with it.
Quote from: guido911 on August 05, 2014, 11:31:53 PM
I just get the feeling that some in the thread are just itching to jump on this: ;D ;D
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5812918272/hA3AFE7DF/)
Love the picture!!
Whether Samsung uses kids or not, it will not impinge on our consciousness, nor our consciences. Child labor was standard procedure in western European society for centuries. As it was here until almost WWII.
The first shot at making child labor illegal was 1924! It failed.
1937 - second attempt - Failed!
Took until
1938 until child labor was made illegal in this country!
So, we are still within the time-frame of people still alive, who may well have been forced to work as children! So, we really can't take any kind of moral high ground on this just yet. Especially when attitudes still exist as expressed by Breadburner a few lines back - one can only hope he is joking, but there are too many around who are not! (There are none so pious as a repentant sinner...!)
Quote from: Townsend on August 06, 2014, 09:32:19 AM
I'm surprised you're okay with it.
I'm not. And I can only assume that those that posted in here are not in favor of sweatshop child labor either. Still trying to figure out what this is all about.
Quote from: guido911 on August 06, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
I'm not. And I can only assume that those that posted in here are not in favor of sweatshop child labor either. Still trying to figure out what this is all about.
Mildly satirical commentary on Samsung "parsing" how much child labor is satisfactory. 70% seems to be the magic number for the company.
Is it gonna get people to stop buying Samsung products? Probably not. Didn't stop the US from buying lots of Chinese stuff over the last 25 years. Melamine in baby formula didn't stop us buying baby formula from China either. We have high tolerance levels.....
Samsung makes a lot of cell phones and electronic gear and I guess with the high demand they have to hire kids to keep up with the demand. Is not LG and Samsung part of the same company?
Quote from: Townsend on August 05, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Have they started sub-contracting the children from Governor Fallin and her new Fort Sill Immigrant program?
Speaking of Mary Fallin those 2,000 Macy jobs Mary Fallin brought to Tulsa last year are getting closer & closer to reality the workmen have finished the steel frame of the structure, next year the place should be open & hiring. Tulsa's labor force is already pretty darn tight, anyone who wants a job can find one in Tulsa. Tulsa will be having it's own labor shortage.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 09, 2014, 03:38:13 PM
Samsung makes a lot of cell phones and electronic gear and I guess with the high demand they have to hire kids to keep up with the demand. Is not LG and Samsung part of the same company?
Did you just say child labor is fine if they're busy?
And no, not the same company.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 09, 2014, 03:38:13 PM
Samsung makes a lot of cell phones and electronic gear and I guess with the high demand they have to hire kids to keep up with the demand. Is not LG and Samsung part of the same company?
No they aren't. And no, they don't have to hire kids - they choose to because of what they are....
Your seat belt is obviously way to tight.... here's a little something that might help!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw1g2yKxb0I
If there is not enough adults to do the job they have to turn to kids- the demand is increasing. Child labor is legal in many countries.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 21, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
If there is not enough adults to do the job they have to turn to kids- the demand is increasing. Child labor is legal in many countries.
It's not that there aren't enough jobs, kids are cheaper.
That's why we have child labor laws. Children should be in school. I'm guessing you missed a lot of school.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 21, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
If there is not enough adults to do the job they have to turn to kids- the demand is increasing. Child labor is legal in many countries.
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Quote from: sauerkraut on August 21, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
If there is not enough adults to do the job they have to turn to kids- the demand is increasing. Child labor is legal in many countries.
This really IS breadburner in disguise, isn't it...?
That is at least in the top 2 or 3 of stupidest things I have heard....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 21, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
This really IS breadburner in disguise, isn't it...?
That is at least in the top 2 or 3 of stupidest things I have heard....
No, I know BB, it's definitely not him.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 21, 2014, 02:31:57 PM
No, I know BB, it's definitely not him.
Mmmmm....ok...I believe you.
I'm not for child labor, I'm totally against it-- I'm just saying it happens and in many nations it's legal and the products they make are sold right here in the USA, the more demand there is for a item the more children in 3rd world countries will be put to work making them items. It is what it is and pretending it does not happen does not make it so. Child labor is not going to end anytime soon.. That's all I'm sayin'.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 22, 2014, 01:44:23 PM
I'm not for child labor, I'm totally against it-- I'm just saying it happens and in many nations it's legal and the products they make are sold right here in the USA, the more demand there is for a item the more children in 3rd world countries will be put to work making them items. It is what it is and pretending it does not happen does not make it so. Child labor is not going to end anytime soon.. That's all I'm sayin'.
And that is all very obvious. What might actually help would be if US corporations performed actual, legitimate audits and put an end to the practices in the factories they deal with. And if US consumers would pay attention and act accordingly - in this case, buy no Samsung until there is verifiable change from those audits.
It certainly won't end until good people in this country set their minds to making it end. In the meantime, we are complacent and don't really care that much.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 22, 2014, 01:49:05 PM
And that is all very obvious. What might actually help would be if US corporations performed actual, legitimate audits and put an end to the practices in the factories they deal with. And if US consumers would pay attention and act accordingly - in this case, buy no Samsung until there is verifiable change from those audits.
It certainly won't end until good people in this country set their minds to making it end. In the meantime, we are complacent and don't really care that much.
But that won't happen, it's just wishful thinking. People are hooked on their 'Lectronic gear and will gobble that stuff up no matter who makes them kids or adults down in some 3rd world sweat factory. Many people like to turn a blind eye to child labor issue and pretend it's not happening or the problem of child labor is solved and proclaim it's not happening anymore in the 21st century. They are only foolin' themselves.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 23, 2014, 10:19:56 AM
But that won't happen, it's just wishful thinking. People are hooked on their 'Lectronic gear and will gobble that stuff up no matter who makes them kids or adults down in some 3rd world sweat factory. Many people like to turn a blind eye to child labor issue and pretend it's not happening or the problem of child labor is solved and proclaim it's not happening anymore in the 21st century. They are only foolin' themselves.
Refreshing post - you do understand that part of human nature and it's application in the real world! True!
Quote from: swake on August 21, 2014, 11:42:56 AM
It's not that there aren't enough jobs, kids are cheaper.
That's why we have child labor laws. Children should be in school. I'm guessing you missed a lot of school.
WE have child labor laws in the USA- but the countries where the products are made do not have child labor laws, it's legal there- and I guess the companies that have their products made in 3rd world countries turn a blind eye to the kids building the electronic gear, or they pretend it's not happening.
Fairly sure Samsung would fire my kids after the first day.
(http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/storyimages/1018_wide.jpg)
Let me put it this way. . .when you turn on my wife's Galaxy tablet it makes fart noises. That was the work of the 6yo.
Quote from: Gaspar on August 25, 2014, 03:57:54 PM
Fairly sure Samsung would fire my kids after the first day.
(http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/storyimages/1018_wide.jpg)
Let me put it this way. . .when you turn on my wife's Galaxy tablet it makes fart noises. That was the work of the 6yo.
What is it with kids and potty humor? To this day, I cannot walk through the bathroom plumbing section of a hardware store without chuckling thinking how hysterical my daughters thought toilets and toilet seats for sale was.
Quote from: Gaspar on August 25, 2014, 03:57:54 PM
Fairly sure Samsung would fire my kids after the first day.
(http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/storyimages/1018_wide.jpg)
Let me put it this way. . .when you turn on my wife's Galaxy tablet it makes fart noises. That was the work of the 6yo.
Genius. I have immense respect for your 6yo.
To the other post, regarding why kids think potty humor is so funny. The root of virtually all humor is the stuff that is on the edge of our understanding, or that makes us uncomfortable. Works the same for adults, the topics are just different.
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 25, 2014, 01:15:17 PM
WE have child labor laws in the USA- but the countries where the products are made do not have child labor laws, it's legal there- and I guess the companies that have their products made in 3rd world countries turn a blind eye to the kids building the electronic gear, or they pretend it's not happening.
Actually, there are only 2 countries in the world that don't have child labor laws.....Myanmar and Somalia. Both have ratified the convention that will make it law, but doesn't take effect for a while yet.
Everywhere else - it's illegal.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 25, 2014, 08:39:17 PM
Actually, there are only 2 countries in the world that don't have child labor laws.....Myanmar and Somalia. Both have ratified the convention that will make it law, but doesn't take effect for a while yet.
Everywhere else - it's illegal.
Illegal on paper, but wink, wink look the other way. :)
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 29, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
Illegal on paper, but wink, wink look the other way. :)
...said the molester
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 29, 2014, 02:02:19 PM
Illegal on paper, but wink, wink look the other way. :)
Yeah, and that a whole other discussion.