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Title: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: sgrizzle on May 30, 2014, 08:48:29 PM
Much to the surprise of those like Joe Westervelt, people actually WANT form-based codes....
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Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: TheArtist on May 30, 2014, 08:58:32 PM
Ooooh!  Does this mean I might be relegated up to being people too? 
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: Red Arrow on May 30, 2014, 09:39:55 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on May 30, 2014, 08:58:32 PM
Ooooh!  Does this mean I might be relegated up to being people too? 

Keep the dream alive.

;D
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: TheArtist on May 31, 2014, 07:45:41 AM
One must always have dreams.  ;D
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: TheArtist on May 31, 2014, 07:49:40 AM
  One question.  Are the Form Based codes actually in place in the Pearl District at this point? 
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: sgrizzle on May 31, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
Quote from: TheArtist on May 31, 2014, 07:49:40 AM
  One question.  Are the Form Based codes actually in place in the Pearl District at this point?

Only in the park and condos. Expanding it down 6th has still been blocked. Joe Westervelt said it should be stricken because no-one wants it, while at the same time this business actually applied for it.
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: Conan71 on August 13, 2014, 04:17:11 PM
From the PlaniTulsa FB page:

QuoteThursday, August 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM the Tulsa City Council will consider three rezoning applications that if approved would essentially be a death blow to Tulsa's only Form Based Code, the essential policy building block of Smart Growth. The Smart Growth Tulsa Coalition calls on every Tulsan to TAKE ACTION IMMEDIATELY to prevent this giant step backward in developing sound and sustainable land use policies consistent with our comprehensive plan.
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: chimchim on August 13, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
a bit over-dramatic to say that excluding a couple buildings would be the death-blow to an idea that could work anywhere in the city.
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: TheArtist on August 13, 2014, 05:33:23 PM
Quote from: chimchim on August 13, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
a bit over-dramatic to say that excluding a couple buildings would be the death-blow to an idea that could work anywhere in the city.

Could work anywhere in the city? They have been trying and trying for about 20 years here with little success.  And really, there are plenty of areas where this would not be at all practical.  Actually most of Tulsa.
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: carltonplace on August 14, 2014, 09:44:38 AM
I'm not sure that FBC will work in the more car centric parts of the city, and that is fine. I think an FBC overlay makes a lot of sense for Riverside/Peoria,  Utica to Peoria at Cherry Street, 11th St and 6th St and downtown.
Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 14, 2014, 01:06:03 PM
I suspect there is some education needed as to what FBC is....need pictures!


Maybe start here...?
http://formbasedcodes.org/definition

Title: Re: People want Form-Based Codes?
Post by: carltonplace on August 15, 2014, 09:05:08 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 14, 2014, 01:06:03 PM
I suspect there is some education needed as to what FBC is....need pictures!


Maybe start here...?
http://formbasedcodes.org/definition



OK, STATUS QUO: 21st and Yale
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FBC CONCEPT
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