For the pilots here, a look at TIA in 1967, showing the old terminal and the current one, as well as AF Plant #3 and AA Maintenance Facility, and ANG Base flying B36's. You can also see how small the zoo was, and all of the residential areas north and just west of TIA.
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/getfile/collection/p16063coll3/id/16/filename/17.pdf (http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/getfile/collection/p16063coll3/id/16/filename/17.pdf)
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 22, 2014, 02:29:35 AM
For the pilots here, a look at TIA in 1967, showing the old terminal and the current one, as well as AF Plant #3 and AA Maintenance Facility, and ANG Base flying B36's. You can also see how small the zoo was, and all of the residential areas north and just west of TIA.
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/getfile/collection/p16063coll3/id/16/filename/17.pdf (http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/getfile/collection/p16063coll3/id/16/filename/17.pdf)
Always interesting to see how magnetic drift changes runway numbers over the years....
Where is Uncle Kimchi's house?
I also noticed three runways I never knew were there.
3L/21R - 3R/21L and runway 12/30. Looks like some of them were incorporated into some of the current taxiway system. Very interesting to look at indeed. Especially the old terminal building at the south end of the short n/s runway. These photos were taken when I was about 4 months old...might have to run out there sometime and see if any remants of the terminal remain.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 22, 2014, 10:15:14 AM
Where is Uncle Kimchi's house?
Couldn't find any pic's
of Omaha. (avoiding a really snarky comment) of him in his womb.
Quote from: Hoss on April 22, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
.might have to run out there sometime and see if any remants of the terminal remain.
It doesn't appear so looking at Google Maps.
Quote from: Red Arrow on April 22, 2014, 12:56:52 PM
It doesn't appear so looking at Google Maps.
Yep, I looked at it as well after I posted and noted that most of Apache at that point was gone and it appeared they shifted the alignment and position of the western N/S runway a little to the south. Shame. But the photo is a neat reminder of history.
I've actually started downloading the images from the site, and spent way too much time last night looking at them. It's interesting to me, like other long term residents seeing how things changed, that and I have found things that I have questioned my memory of being there, like the two railroad crossings on the BA Expwy, and the Standard Gas station that was at 41st and Yale in front of the research center.
Quote from: Hoss on April 22, 2014, 10:50:29 AM
I also noticed three runways I never knew were there.
3L/21R - 3R/21L and runway 12/30. Looks like some of them were incorporated into some of the current taxiway system. Very interesting to look at indeed. Especially the old terminal building at the south end of the short n/s runway. These photos were taken when I was about 4 months old...might have to run out there sometime and see if any remants of the terminal remain.
Most likely from WWII training days, I would guess Hoss, considering that's how they had x-wind strips at every other AAC training base in the area.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 22, 2014, 02:05:57 PM
Most likely from WWII training days, I would guess Hoss, considering that's how they had x-wind strips at every other AAC training base in the area.
The southwest US is littered with old WWII training fields that are triangular shaped with a E/W, SW to NE, and SE to NW strips.
It's got to be this old terminal.
(http://www.oldairfield.com/places/tulsa_ok/images/TulsaAirport.jpg)
http://www.oldairfield.com/places/tulsa_ok/index.html
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 22, 2014, 02:37:49 PM
The southwest US is littered with old WWII training fields that are triangular shaped with a E/W, SW to NE, and SE to NW strips.
I remember several in southern Virginia when I was flying there in the mid 70s. A lot of those runways have gone away, probably due to the cost of maintaining them. Okmulgee now only has one runway when even 20 yrs ago they still had two of the original three.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 22, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
I've actually started downloading the images from the site, and spent way too much time last night looking at them. It's interesting to me, like other long term residents seeing how things changed, that and I have found things that I have questioned my memory of being there, like the two railroad crossings on the BA Expwy, and the Standard Gas station that was at 41st and Yale in front of the research center.
Images of downtown area are interesting too. I was somewhat surprised at how much of the Blue Dome / Brady districts were still occupied by railroads.
There were a lot of parking areas even then but certainly not as much as now.
Quote from: Red Arrow on April 22, 2014, 08:40:13 PM
Images of downtown area are interesting too. I was somewhat surprised at how much of the Blue Dome / Brady districts were still occupied by railroads.
There were a lot of parking areas even then but certainly not as much as now.
Was looking at the downtown image as well and could see a passenger train sitting at the Santa Fe Station down about 1st & Detroit. Remember getting on one there to go to KC in 1968. Also saw the smoke stack just west of the Union Depot was still standing, dad took me to see it imploded in '69 I think. It's also funny to see how many drive in thearters there were. 11thst Drive In had two screens, 11th & Mingo, Admiral Twin, Airview on Pine at N77th E Ave one screen, and the Apache on Apache between Yale and Harvard with one screen. Six of them within just a few miles of each other.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 22, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
Was looking at the downtown image as well and could see a passenger train sitting at the Santa Fe Station down about 1st & Detroit. Remember getting on one there to go to KC in 1968. Also saw the smoke stack just west of the Union Depot was still standing, dad took me to see it imploded in '69 I think. It's also funny to see how many drive in thearters there were. 11thst Drive In had two screens, 11th & Mingo, Admiral Twin, Airview on Pine at N77th E Ave one screen, and the Apache on Apache between Yale and Harvard with one screen. Six of them within just a few miles of each other.
One of my first apartments was next door to the 11th Street Drive in (after they closed it down but it hadn't been demolished completely). I saw Jaws and Star Wars at that theater.
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2014, 02:56:43 PM
It's got to be this old terminal.
(http://www.oldairfield.com/places/tulsa_ok/images/TulsaAirport.jpg)
http://www.oldairfield.com/places/tulsa_ok/index.html
Cool. I would go there in the 50's when Dad would go on trips. You could walk down the hall, walk out a door, go 100ft and climb the stair to the plane. One time I was holding the window frame when the plane started out - it turned around away from terminal, and the backwash blew the window shut on both my hands. Ouch. I was about 6 at that time.
Tulsa Air and Space Museum has the front facade in their building - I think it is just replica, but pretty cool.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 22, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
Was looking at the downtown image as well and could see a passenger train sitting at the Santa Fe Station down about 1st & Detroit. Remember getting on one there to go to KC in 1968. Also saw the smoke stack just west of the Union Depot was still standing, dad took me to see it imploded in '69 I think. It's also funny to see how many drive in thearters there were. 11thst Drive In had two screens, 11th & Mingo, Admiral Twin, Airview on Pine at N77th E Ave one screen, and the Apache on Apache between Yale and Harvard with one screen. Six of them within just a few miles of each other.
The Capri was out near Sand Springs as well, wasn't it? There was another in Broken Arrow, I want to say it was on 71st or 81st between 129th & 145th.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 23, 2014, 08:55:26 AM
The Capri was out near Sand Springs as well, wasn't it? There was another in Broken Arrow, I want to say it was on 71st or 81st between 129th & 145th.
Yes, you are correct. That was there as recently as the mid-eighties or even as late as the nineties, even if it was closed.
71st, between 129th and 145th. I can remember driving out to see one of my girlfriends at the time and driving this route and passing this thing by all the time.
http://tulsatvmemories.com/51drive.html
You can actually still see where it was on the Googles... :)
https://goo.gl/maps/exdK0
Quote from: Conan71 on April 23, 2014, 08:55:26 AM
The Capri was out near Sand Springs as well, wasn't it? There was another in Broken Arrow, I want to say it was on 71st or 81st between 129th & 145th.
We used to go to the Capri and the 71st street theaters...I had a '65 Buick Wildcat with a BIG trunk. Could get 5 or 6 people in that if they were friends.....
The Capri Drive-in was very cool. It closed in 1995 but the last years it was open it showed X-rated movies.
Or so I heard.
Quote from: Hoss on April 23, 2014, 10:43:08 AM
Yes, you are correct. That was there as recently as the mid-eighties or even as late as the nineties, even if it was closed.
71st, between 129th and 145th. I can remember driving out to see one of my girlfriends at the time and driving this route and passing this thing by all the time.
http://tulsatvmemories.com/51drive.html
You can actually still see where it was on the Googles... :)
https://goo.gl/maps/exdK0
Curious how current teh Googlz view is. I'd think that would have been developed by now. So this begs the question: Was 71st St. the original highway 51 before the BA expressway was constructed, hence the "51 Drive In"?
Quote from: Conan71 on April 23, 2014, 08:55:26 AM
The Capri was out near Sand Springs as well, wasn't it? There was another in Broken Arrow, I want to say it was on 71st or 81st between 129th & 145th.
As you and others have pointed out about the Capri, and the one in BA on 71st, there was also the Riverview or Riverside across I-44 from the Pepsi plant and the Tee-Pee in Sapulpa. The on in BA was a nice one to go to, only went to Tee-Pee once and that was to see the third Mad Max movie when it came out. The Capri? Well, um, yeah it was there.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 23, 2014, 11:51:33 AM
As you and others have pointed out about the Capri, and the one in BA on 71st, there was also the Riverview or Riverside across I-44 from the Pepsi plant and the Tee-Pee in Sapulpa. The on in BA was a nice one to go to, only went to Tee-Pee once and that was to see the third Mad Max movie when it came out. The Capri? Well, um, yeah it was there.
Was the Riverview where Riverside Chevrolet and Turnpike Ford eventually ended up?
Quote from: Conan71 on April 23, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
Was the Riverview where Riverside Chevrolet and Turnpike Ford eventually ended up?
Yep, that was the spot. I think it closed in mid to late 70's. Riverside was originally Bill White but IIRC they got bought buy Hudiburg out of Mid West City when Bill White was closing up the DT dealership. They left downtown followed by Jim Norton and then the last one to leave was Fred Jones.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 23, 2014, 12:17:34 PM
Yep, that was the spot. I think it closed in mid to late 70's. Riverside was originally Bill White but IIRC they got bought buy Hudiburg out of Mid West City when Bill White was closing up the DT dealership. They left downtown followed by Jim Norton and then the last one to leave was Fred Jones.
That's what I thought. There used to be an asphalt oval race track just to the east of Elwood between Elwood and the river. The surface was still there in the early 1980's and we would race around it at night. I believe it was called Riverside Speedway when it was open but it apparently was a very short-lived venture.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 23, 2014, 12:20:07 PM
That's what I thought. There used to be an asphalt oval race track just to the east of Elwood between Elwood and the river. The surface was still there in the early 1980's and we would race around it at night. I believe it was called Riverside Speedway when it was open but it apparently was a very short-lived venture.
The drive in and the circle track are near the bottom center.
http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/getfile/collection/p16063coll3/id/46/filename/47.pdf (http://cdm15020.contentdm.oclc.org/utils/getfile/collection/p16063coll3/id/46/filename/47.pdf)
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0913927,-95.9963928,734m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0913927,-95.9963928,734m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en)
And Highway 75 stopped at 51st St.
Interesting looking at where I work and the very first shop that was put up on the property with cast off boiler tubes for a frame and corrugated steel for a shell. That building is still on the property, but quite a few more buildings have sprung up around it.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 22, 2014, 11:51:23 PM
Cool. I would go there in the 50's when Dad would go on trips.
Ah, the good ol' days, eh heiron?
(http://sharetv.org/images/guide/201867.jpg)
(http://forums.parallax.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95191&d=1346158440)
Quote from: guido911 on April 24, 2014, 11:30:53 PM
Ah, the good ol' days, eh heiron?
(http://sharetv.org/images/guide/201867.jpg)
(http://forums.parallax.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=95191&d=1346158440)
Exactly!! Hey, what happened to the other name thing...I can't remember what it was...??
The pterodactyl always pushed so much wind on take off, it was tough to stand around near it! (A lot like this place sometimes!!)
Race tracks - there is a very cool race track on northeast corner of 36th and Yale - goes in circle around that little city park there (Highland Park). Always able to take out a mailbox or two on the north side of that loop!
^^^ I forgot that name also. Edited to add:
Harrison Alexernder
Your name got Travolta-ized
Quote from: Red Arrow on April 22, 2014, 08:32:56 PM
I remember several in southern Virginia when I was flying there in the mid 70s. A lot of those runways have gone away, probably due to the cost of maintaining them. Okmulgee now only has one runway when even 20 yrs ago they still had two of the original three.
As of about 10 years ago, the field in La Junta, Colorado looked like it hadn't been touched since the end of the war. Still had all three runways and the old shack now being used as an FBO's office. I believe all three runways are still intact.
Quote from: nathanm on April 26, 2014, 12:46:39 PM
As of about 10 years ago, the field in La Junta, Colorado looked like it hadn't been touched since the end of the war. Still had all three runways and the old shack now being used as an FBO's office. I believe all three runways are still intact.
Looks like they are only still using 12-30 and 8-26.
And.. 12-30 is not in good shape.
http://goo.gl/maps/5j6nR
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLHX
Quote from: guido911 on April 25, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
^^^ I forgot that name also. Edited to add:
Harrison Alexernder
Your name got Travolta-ized
Whew!! That's a relief!! I was beginning to think you didn't care anymore!! And then where would I be....? ....without a friend in the world!!