I know this has been batted around quite a bit, but ths morning set me off again. Apparently when "Operation Slick Streets" goes into effect, "Operation Drive Like A Pu__y" is also triggered.
Quote from: guido911 on November 25, 2013, 03:42:07 PM
I know this has been batted around quite a bit, but thus morning set me off again. Apparently when "Operation Slick Streets" goes into effect, "Operation Drive Like A Pu__y" is also triggered.
Always a ray of sunshine.
Quote from: guido911 on November 25, 2013, 03:42:07 PM
I know this has been batted around quite a bit, but ths morning set me off again. Apparently when "Operation Slick Streets" goes into effect, "Operation Drive Like A Pu__y" is also triggered.
Amen.
I was driving in on 75 yesterday and the average speed seemed to be somewhere between old woman with a walker and Sloth.
It was almost as bad this morning. No idea why.
That's okay, the red light runners in the inner-city more than made up for it.
Tulsan's drive like old people f*ck. Slow and sloppy. ~ Steve Martin. ;D
I just spent a week in downtown San Francisco. The drivers here are just fine. Comparatively.
Quote from: swake on November 26, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
I just spent a week in downtown San Francisco. The drivers here are just fine. Comparatively.
Yep, I spent four days in NoVA (northern Virginia) some time back. Although I still grumble about Oklahoma drivers in general, they got nothing compared to the drivers there. Wow.
I've been in New York and Newark as well as a recent trip to Atlanta. Tulsa motorists are cautious and courteous by comparison. But a little snow or ice induces Great Panic. I grew up driving in winter conditions. It doesn't bother me. But I try not to drive in those conditions here due to cold induced stupidity in others.
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The width of our roads and the Tulsa grid probably help us get around without doing as much damage as we'd be prone to do.
Whenever I've visited a place where my reaction to the driving is, "What the motherpancakes are you doing?" it has been a place with older, narrower lanes. Many times those lanes are even narrower because they remember there are people on bicycles and they dedicate lanes to them.
I've driven in San Diego, LA, San Francisco, Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas and Portland, and by far the worst were in Vegas. Vegas reminded me of growing up driving in Tulsa. Drivers that suffer from cranial-rectal insertion.
In my experience, Tulsa has the best sidewalks to drive on.
I made the mistake years back at thinking you can drive down Bourbon Street in N.O. I quickly went back to the Hotel and got the shuttle over to it and then rode the Trolley back and forth to restaurants. It wasn't so much the other drivers(very few)as it was the drunks that don't know what the hell a car is.
Also. Ft Lauderdale is like a real Death Race 2000. Those people just merge when they feel like it, and the carp to anyone else on "their" road.
Quote from: DolfanBob on November 26, 2013, 01:55:46 PM
I made the mistake years back at thinking you can drive down Bourbon Street in N.O. I quickly went back to the Hotel and got the shuttle over to it and then rode the Trolley back and forth to restaurants. It wasn't so much the other drivers(very few)as it was the drunks that don't know what the hell a car is.
Also. Ft Lauderdale is like a real Death Race 2000. Those people just merge when they feel like it, and the carp to anyone else on "their" road.
Love the observation on Ft. Lauderdale. One of the places I'm glad we didn't rent a car, we just walked everywhere or took a cab if it was too far.
Quote from: Conan71 on November 26, 2013, 01:20:15 PM
In my experience, Tulsa has the best sidewalks to drive on.
Best fountains as well.
Quote from: Ed W on November 26, 2013, 12:43:31 PM
I've been in New York and Newark as well as a recent trip to Atlanta. Tulsa motorists are cautious and courteous by comparison. But a little snow or ice induces Great Panic. I grew up driving in winter conditions. It doesn't bother me. But I try not to drive in those conditions here due to cold induced stupidity in others.
Unless you're in a pickup truck... it apparently becomes turn up the dude-driving time.
Lots of pickups in ditches. Sweet schadenfreude....
Tulsa drivers probably aren't that bad, just overly distracted. Arterial streets and roads throughout most of town are in such bad shape that one must pay equal attention to navigating the traffic as well as road surfaces. Ignoring either may put you and/or others in serious peril.
I've never posted on these forums before, but had to delurk (shout out 1990s!) to post on this topic. My pet peeve about Tulsa Drivers is that apparently none of them know how to properly navigate a four way stop. When a traffic light is out the intersection becomes a free-for-all zone and I end up loudly lecturing all the other drivers (in my head).
Welcome to the nuthouse!
I believe the law in OK is FIFO- first in first out - but a friend insisted that motorists should take turns in a clockwise direction. In practice, the oldest, most beat up car gets priority 'cause it isn't worth the front clip on your Honda and the driver has neither license nor insurance.
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Quote from: Ginsberg on November 27, 2013, 02:35:03 AM
I've never posted on these forums before, but had to delurk (shout out 1990s!) to post on this topic. My pet peeve about Tulsa Drivers is that apparently none of them know how to properly navigate a four way stop. When a traffic light is out the intersection becomes a free-for-all zone and I end up loudly lecturing all the other drivers (in my head).
Wait until you encounter some trying to figure out a traffic circle/roundabout.
Quote from: Ed W on November 27, 2013, 06:57:50 AM
I believe the law in OK is FIFO- first in first out - but a friend insisted that motorists should take turns in a clockwise direction. In practice, the oldest, most beat up car gets priority 'cause it isn't worth the front clip on your Honda and the driver has neither license nor insurance.
I believe that FIFO is correct but absent other circumstances, the person on "your" right has the right of way which would lead to counterclockwise rotation. That mode would prohibit cars on the same street traveling in opposite directions from crossing the intersection at the same time. What a time waster that would be.
Quote from: Ibanez on November 27, 2013, 09:00:19 AM
Wait until you encounter some trying to figure out a traffic circle/roundabout.
Traffic circles and roundabouts are not the same traffic rules. Roundabouts work better since the traffic in the round part have the right of way.
Quote from: Red Arrow on November 27, 2013, 10:47:11 AM
Traffic circles and roundabouts are not the same traffic rules. Roundabouts work better since the traffic in the round part have the right of way.
So technically, that makes the 'traffic circle' at Admiral & Mingo a roundabout. That explains why visitors who try to navigate it drive like idiots. Makes it worse on weekends because most are visitors to that area when they go to the damned flea market.
Four-ways in Tulsa are the worst. It's like people don't understand that more than one car can proceed at a time. At a four-lane, four cars should be going simultaneously, or as close to simultaneously as possible if somebody's turning.
At the lesser-traveled four-ways, they take that 'complete stop' nonsense seriously. Slow down to like 2mph, make sure nobody's there, and proceed. Don't stop and wait for 9 seconds despite a total lack of any other people around.
Quote from: TheTed on November 27, 2013, 08:40:30 PM
At the lesser-traveled four-ways, they take that 'complete stop' nonsense seriously. Slow down to like 2mph, make sure nobody's there, and proceed. Don't stop and wait for 9 seconds despite a total lack of any other people around.
I'm going to have to disagree about the complete stop. It's not a safety issue, just a financial one. I don't feel like checking for a
revenue generator police officer at every stop sign. I come to a complete stop while looking in my mirror for you. Then it is a habit and I don't need to look for anything except traffic. I don't stay stopped more than a few (maybe 1 to 3) seconds if the path is clear.
One of my neighbors got a ticket a few months ago for the very action you recommend. He didn't deny doing a "rolling stop". He just complained about the ticket.
Thanks for the welcome Ed! I agree with the first in first out on a low traffic 4 way stop. What I am talking about is an example like when it's 5:05 and the traffic lights at say 11th & Denver are out. In that situation the counter-clockwise 1 car at a time (2 at a time going the same direction) should be happening - not 4 lanes of both N & S or E & W drivers - and definitely not just a go for it when you think you can do it without getting hit. Keep it nice and tidy people! The degree to which this annoys me reminds me that I have officially become the cranky old lady I used to roll my eyes at. ;-) As for traffic circles, I never encounter them - unless you count the intersection at 11th & Elgin where the City of Tulsa found reason to post every traffic sign ever invented. Seriously - have you counted them?!
I just drove 12 hours to northern Minnesota. Only a few scary moments with selfish, stupid drivers and guess what? Oklahoma, Texas and Arkansas plates. The most egregious was a little sub compact that was trying to bully a 53' long tractor trailer. The little white car refused to move out of the fast lane. Huge ego, small car...you guessed it....Texas plates!
I forgot how really warm and friendly these people are up here and how good the roads are.
Quote from: Ginsberg on November 28, 2013, 04:20:53 AM
In that situation the counter-clockwise 1 car at a time (2 at a time going the same direction) should be happening - not 4 lanes of both N & S or E & W drivers -
Why do you propose to cut the traffic flow in half?
I see that Tulsa drivers have already begun to panic over the upcoming weather disaster. Even the oil change place I passed had a line 5 cars deep. Should I even bother venturing the 1/2 mile Braums?
Quote from: guido911 on December 04, 2013, 04:59:26 PM
I see that Tulsa drivers have already begun to panic over the upcoming weather disaster. Even the oil change place I passed had a line 5 cars deep. Should I even bother venturing the 1/2 mile Braums?
Warehouse market at 11/Garnett wasn't too bad; neither was the Braum's across the street. This WHM actually had more groceries than any of the Reasor's I've seen.
But yeah; the bad driving started around noon.
I am heading out into, pray for me...
Quote from: guido911 on December 04, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
I am heading out into, pray for me...
Be careful!! I have decided to brave the apocalypse directly and wait until Friday to drive between OKC and Tulsa. Maybe late tomorrow??
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 04, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
Be careful!! I have decided to brave the apocalypse directly and wait until Friday to drive between OKC and Tulsa. Maybe late tomorrow??
I did that driving today (OKC, then over the Ponca).
I made it home. Braums completely out of milk, Walmart bread (and lots of produce) shelves almost empty. Reasors had everything.
Surprised that Grizz had not posted this yet (from his FB):
Quote from: guido911 on December 04, 2013, 08:22:11 PM
I did that driving today (OKC, then over the Ponca).
I made it home. Braums completely out of milk, Walmart bread (and lots of produce) shelves almost empty. Reasors had everything.
Was told Braum's was out by one at work, then went into one near Moore, OK for a breakfast bagel and it was full of milk. Go figure.
Got back to Tulsa in time to eat at Lot-A-Burger and go to the house. Gonna work from home for the next couple days.....put some new faucet protectors on, too!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on December 05, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
Was told Braum's was out by one at work, then went into one near Moore, OK for a breakfast bagel and it was full of milk. Go figure.
Got back to Tulsa in time to eat at Lot-A-Burger and go to the house. Gonna work from home for the next couple days.....put some new faucet protectors on, too!
Only place in town (within the last four hours anyway) that I was able to reliably find those (faucet protectors) was at Sutherlands. Bought a new snow shovel as well.
Quote from: Hoss on December 05, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
Only place in town (within the last four hours anyway) that I was able to reliably find those (faucet protectors) was at Sutherlands. Bought a new snow shovel as well.
Got the last 3 that Lowe's had that day. Bought a new shovel (non-snow) - flat across the front - to put in the trunk or back of the truck. Got the Ice-trekkers on and am ready to go! Well, was ready to go, since it is all past now....
Protector too late for one faucet - it froze up and now leaks regardless. Can't really complain - it lasted 35+ years without much maintenance, so will just swap it out when the weather gets better.
Somehow I never managed to get a metal snow shovel to last more than a few years. The plastic snow scoop I now have has been perfect for at least 10 years. I had expected it would be disposable as well.
Quote from: Conan71 on December 09, 2013, 02:09:27 PM
Somehow I never managed to get a metal snow shovel to last more than a few years. The plastic snow scoop I now have has been perfect for at least 10 years. I had expected it would be disposable as well.
Saw several of those at Sutherlands but passed on them, getting the old metal one instead. Did well enough for this weekend.
Quote from: Conan71 on December 09, 2013, 02:09:27 PM
Somehow I never managed to get a metal snow shovel to last more than a few years. The plastic snow scoop I now have has been perfect for at least 10 years. I had expected it would be disposable as well.
I still have one aluminum shovel with a steel edge that we brought here from PA in 1971.
;D
I had to replace one that I picked up at a garage sale about 1971. Handle broke a month or so ago, so couldn't shovel the ice on the driveway. Gonna change the handle, then will have two.... Should last another 40 years or so at that point....I plan to not be shoveling by then.
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 09, 2013, 07:19:48 PM
I still have one aluminum shovel with a steel edge that we brought here from PA in 1971.
;D
That was the problem with my aluminum scoop: it would get hair-lipped from imperfections in the pavement. A steel tip would have helped.
Quote from: Conan71 on December 09, 2013, 09:32:43 PM
That was the problem with my aluminum scoop: it would get hair-lipped from imperfections in the pavement. A steel tip would have helped.
We brought two from PA. I wore the steel down to the rivets holding it to the aluminum and the steel became detached on one. Now I have only one. :(
I just need a flame thrower. BOOM! problem solved.
Quote from: DolfanBob on December 10, 2013, 10:26:32 AM
I just need a flame thrower. BOOM! problem solved.
Don't burn your house down.
:(
Quote from: guido911 on December 05, 2013, 03:38:40 PM
Surprised that Grizz had not posted this yet (from his FB):
OMG! That is absolutely friggin hilarious!