http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/post.aspx/Budweiser_OK_some_say_6_point_coming_to_liquor_stores/65-22272
Word has it that OK+ (in excess of 3.2) Budweiser is coming to a liquor store near you. I am waiting for confirmation from Budweiser that this will be happening. There is confirmation that a couple of popular Budweiser products -- Bud Light Lime-a-ritas and Strawbaritas -- will be in liquor stores.
I think Budweiser is seeing the big picture, sales are big in liquor stores and Budweiser wants to be a part of it. Craft beers have been doing great in market share and Budweiser is adjusting its plan. I hope that this will help get Oklahoma's liquor laws more like the rest of the region's. We will have to see what will happen.
I will update when I get more information. So for a lot of people this may mean saving gas money on trips to Kansas and Arkansas for their beer runs.
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Smoot says; "Say whaaaaaa?"
This might just bring me out of retirement from drinking. Problem being is I don't like the three type that are being mentioned. I'm a full flavor drinker. I just wish that Coors would get on board. Nothing like a strong Banquet Beer.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on September 17, 2013, 12:26:27 PM
Word has it that OK+ (in excess of 3.2) Budweiser is coming to a liquor store near you.
Two problems with that:
1. It's Budweiser, and
2. Anheuser-Busch lobbyists throw a lot of money at lawmakers and law enforcers to maintain the status quo.
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Excellent, maybe we'll also be able to get Land Shark (+) !
ABLE approved the following for sale in Oklahoma beginning in November.
-Budweiser (keg)
-Budweiser Black Crown (keg)
-Bud Light Lime Lime-A-Rita (can)
-Bud Light Lime Straw-Ber-Rita (can)
-Bud Light Lime Cran-Brrr-Rita (can)
-Land Shark (keg)
-Rolling Rock (can, bottle and keg)
-Shock Top Belgian White (can, bottle and keg)
-Ziegenbock (keg)
Quote from: rdj on September 17, 2013, 04:36:56 PM
ABLE approved the following for sale in Oklahoma beginning in November.
-Budweiser (keg)
-Budweiser Black Crown (keg)
-Bud Light Lime Lime-A-Rita (can)
-Bud Light Lime Straw-Ber-Rita (can)
-Bud Light Lime Cran-Brrr-Rita (can)
-Land Shark (keg)
-Rolling Rock (can, bottle and keg)
-Shock Top Belgian White (can, bottle and keg)
-Ziegenbock (keg)
And the wait continues.
Quote from: Vision 2025 on September 17, 2013, 04:21:43 PM
Excellent, maybe we'll also be able to get Land Shark (+) !
I guess we all have different preferences in our beverages.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16098/34804
Where are the beer snobs?
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Quote from: Red Arrow on September 17, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
I guess we all have different preferences in our beverages.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16098/34804
Can't argue with that....IMO it's barely 1 step above Top Hat or Hamm's.
Quote from: guido911 on September 17, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
Where are the beer snobs?
We/they are all around you.
;D
Ziegenbock is a really good drinkable beer, if not slightly pedestrian in quality. IMO, it appears to be a competitor to the "other" bock beer from Tejas. Up to now, it's only been available in Texas. I'm guessing since it's keg-only, the marketing push is for restaurants.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 17, 2013, 10:14:28 PM
Ziegenbock is a really good drinkable beer, if not slightly pedestrian in quality. IMO, it appears to be a competitor to the "other" bock beer from Tejas. Up to now, it's only been available in Texas. I'm guessing since it's keg-only, the marketing push is for restaurants.
I had some Ziegenbock several years ago and remember thinking it was decent. It certainly had more flavor than Bud Light. Please keep in mind that Bud (etc) brewers put out a very consistent product. As light on flavor (not really bad, just very light) as Bud is and being consistent is not a cake walk. Some people like asparagus. I don't. Some people like Budweiser. I prefer fuller flavor craft beers. I say that after m-a-n-y years of drinking Budweiser products.
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 17, 2013, 10:57:20 PM
I had some Ziegenbock several years ago and remember thinking it was decent. It certainly had more flavor than Bud Light. Please keep in mind that Bud (etc) brewers put out a very consistent product. As light on flavor (not really bad, just very light) as Bud is and being consistent is not a cake walk. Some people like asparagus. I don't. Some people like Budweiser. I prefer fuller flavor craft beers. I say that after m-a-n-y years of drinking Budweiser products.
This.
I started off in my teens drinking Busch/Budweiser/Bud Light, but only started recently (in the last 10 to 15 years or so) enjoying craft beers. A trip I made to Colorado in 1997 was probably the start of it when I was able to sample many of the microbrewery offerings from there.
This won't do a lot for me (Budweiser high-point offerings) as I don't drink Budweiser that much anyway. I'll continue drinking my Marshall and Prairie Artisan and Santa Fe and Moose Drool...you get the point though.
The only one of those on that list I care for is the Shock Top. They sold it at the BOK Center and even in its watered down form it was good. Can't wait to see how it tastes full-flavored.
I'll get excited when we're able to buy Special Export in Tulsa... and not a day before...
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Quote from: Townsend on September 17, 2013, 12:31:46 PM
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Smoot says; "Say whaaaaaa?"
Looks like he just had highpoint beer run down his pants leg.
Quote from: Hoss on September 17, 2013, 11:04:58 PM
This.
I started off in my teens drinking Busch/Budweiser/Bud Light, but only started recently (in the last 10 to 15 years or so) enjoying craft beers. A trip I made to Colorado in 1997 was probably the start of it when I was able to sample many of the microbrewery offerings from there.
This won't do a lot for me (Budweiser high-point offerings) as I don't drink Budweiser that much anyway. I'll continue drinking my Marshall and Prairie Artisan and Santa Fe and Moose Drool...you get the point though.
The only one of those on that list I care for is the Shock Top. They sold it at the BOK Center and even in its watered down form it was good. Can't wait to see how it tastes full-flavored.
This was me as well. Moving to AZ and then going to Telluride Blues & Brews changed my beer drinking forever.
Around here if you drink Hamm's you are over 70, and if you drink PBR you are a hipster wanna be.
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on September 17, 2013, 11:44:06 PM
Looks like he just had highpoint beer run down his pants leg.
He is rocking that pixie cut goatee combo.
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 17, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
I guess we all have different preferences in our beverages.
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/16098/34804
Yep, I prefeer crisp and light to heavy with that ground up asprin after taste
Quote from: Vision 2025 on September 18, 2013, 11:01:47 AM
Yep, I prefeer crisp and light to heavy with that ground up asprin after taste
There are a lot of different flavors in beers. Ground up aspirin is not one I have experienced. If you provide some examples, I will be sure not to buy them.
Let me know when stores can sell New Belgium.
Quote from: OwassoPoke on September 18, 2013, 03:01:22 PM
Let me know when stores can sell New Belgium.
Not gonna happen until Oklahoma allows:
* Refrigerated transport of beer
* Refrigerated storage of high point beer
Both of which are required by the New Belgium distributors.
As it is now, my Fat Tire (which is a New Belguim Brewery beer) has to be bought out of state, and the closest place for me to purchase is Caney KS.
Quote from: Hoss on September 18, 2013, 03:15:49 PM
As it is now, my Fat Tire (which is a New Belguim Brewery beer) has to be bought out of state, and the closest place for me to purchase is Caney KS.
OR.... You could make your own. High Gravity has a Fat Tire clone that is pretty good.
Quote from: Hoss on September 18, 2013, 03:15:49 PM
Not gonna happen until Oklahoma allows:
* Refrigerated transport of beer
* Refrigerated storage of high point beer
Both of which are required by the New Belgium distributors.
As it is now, my Fat Tire (which is a New Belguim Brewery beer) has to be bought out of state, and the closest place for me to purchase is Caney KS.
Refrigerated transport, yes. Refrigerated storage, no. The second part is a myth. Multiple states have New Belgium in non-refrigerated stores. In fact, I've bought New Belgium in several stores in Missouri that it was not refrigerated.
Quote from: rdj on September 19, 2013, 11:03:29 AM
Refrigerated transport, yet. Refrigerated storage, no. The second part is a myth. Multiple states have New Belgium in non-refrigerated stores. In fact, I've bought New Belgium in several stores in Missouri that it was not refrigerated.
Either way, you get forced to drive outside of Oklahoma. I thought it was the case because someone told me so and because the cashier at the store in Caney told me as well
Quote from: Hoss on September 19, 2013, 11:50:23 AM
Either way, you get forced to drive outside of Oklahoma. I thought it was the case because someone told me so and because the cashier at the store in Caney told me as well
Agreed. The point is that we don't a full overhaul in one step. If we could get refrigerated transport it would increase our access to more craft beer. They aren't the only one with same standards. It makes sense, a product that can "spoil" when exposed to high heat traveling down the highway in a non-refrigerated truck in the middle of an Oklahoma summer will most likely be affected. I have always wondered if the brewers could sue the state claiming it is an unfair business practice for the state to bar them from delivering their product in a manner that won't affect the end quality.
Quote from: rdj on September 19, 2013, 12:15:02 PM
Agreed. The point is that we don't a full overhaul in one step. If we could get refrigerated transport it would increase our access to more craft beer. They aren't the only one with same standards. It makes sense, a product that can "spoil" when exposed to high heat traveling down the highway in a non-refrigerated truck in the middle of an Oklahoma summer will most likely be affected. I have always wondered if the brewers could sue the state claiming it is an unfair business practice for the state to bar them from delivering their product in a manner that won't affect the end quality.
Isn't this regulation written into OK's constitution? That could be why the brewers have not sued because it's not a business regulation per se, but a constitutional one that is harder to fight in court and they realize that it's not worth the expense?
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 18, 2013, 04:28:00 PM
OR.... You could make your own. High Gravity has a Fat Tire clone that is pretty good.
Or if someone prefers that nutty-malty flavor, I think Santa Fe Nut Brown has a more rounded flavor than Fat Tire. JMO.
Someone should start a private club with an inexpensive entry fee. Part of the charter of such a club could include frequent travel to another state.
Oh, wait, I think there are actually already several of those. Could explain the success of many of the mini-storage facilities located in the middle of nowhere, just over the Oklahoma border. ;)
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Huh? What?
Quote from: Gaspar on September 19, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Someone should start a private club with an inexpensive entry fee. Part of the charter of such a club could include frequent travel to another state.
Oh, wait, I think there are actually already several of those. Could explain the success of many of the mini-storage facilities located in the middle of nowhere, just over the Oklahoma border. ;)
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Huh? What?
So is this a grown up Cartman???
It takes a badge and a gun looking like that to get Autho-Ruh-Tuh!
Quote from: Gaspar on September 19, 2013, 02:00:12 PM
Someone should start a private club with an inexpensive entry fee. Part of the charter of such a club could include frequent travel to another state.
Oh, wait, I think there are actually already several of those. Could explain the success of many of the mini-storage facilities located in the middle of nowhere, just over the Oklahoma border. ;)
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Huh? What?
Why does he always have the same look on his face? It's a cross between surprise and constipation.
Could be that stick up his a** :D
Quote from: Ibanez on September 19, 2013, 03:32:51 PM
Why does he always have the same look on his face? It's a cross between surprise and constipation.
Oklahoma beer does that to me too.
Quote from: Gaspar on September 19, 2013, 03:51:23 PM
Oklahoma beer does that to me too.
Definitely a "shart" look
Quote from: Conan71 on September 19, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
Definitely a "shart" look
He looks like Kenny Powers with a haircut.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 19, 2013, 04:16:58 PM
Definitely a "shart" look
From now on I'm going to call that "Taking a Smoot"
Quote from: Ibanez on September 19, 2013, 09:03:42 PM
From now on I'm going to call that "Taking a Smoot"
Even sounds correct!
Now that's funny! Laughed so hard I nearly Smat myself.
Quote from: Ibanez on September 19, 2013, 09:03:42 PM
From now on I'm going to call that "Taking a Smoot"
HA! plus 1. Give that man a Daniel Webster See-Gar.....or a Marshall's.
Quote from: rdj on September 19, 2013, 11:03:29 AM
Refrigerated transport, yes. Refrigerated storage, no. The second part is a myth. Multiple states have New Belgium in non-refrigerated stores. In fact, I've bought New Belgium in several stores in Missouri that it was not refrigerated.
yeah they use the refrigerated thing as a ploy. The distributors can refrigerate but the stores can't. New Belgium claims that the liqour stores rotate out their unrefrigerated stock to the cooler and it has to be sold in 30 days. I call BS on that.
At one time I would have thought YEah!!! to this, but really, not any more. Even if given the chance to have a high point bud, when traveling for example, I still choose something with actual flavor.
Bud is mass produced swill and not worth drinking unless its literally the only thing around.
And I like New Belgium and Fat Tire, but I think it's the forbidden fruit that gets so many people talking about it. There are a dozen beers in the liquor store right now that are just as good if not better. In fact, if I want an amber, then the Paulaner Octoberfest is about the best you can get.
Quote from: tulsascoot on September 20, 2013, 09:42:07 AM
At one time I would have thought YEah!!! to this, but really, not any more. Even if given the chance to have a high point bud, when traveling for example, I still choose something with actual flavor.
Bud is mass produced swill and not worth drinking unless its literally the only thing around.
And I like New Belgium and Fat Tire, but I think it's the forbidden fruit that gets so many people talking about it. There are a dozen beers in the liquor store right now that are just as good if not better. In fact, if I want an amber, then the Paulaner Octoberfest is about the best you can get.
That was the mystique behind Coors beer for years, but it did make for an entertaining plot line in Smokey & The Bandit.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 20, 2013, 10:15:30 AM
That was the mystique behind Coors beer for years, but it did make for an entertaining plot line in Smokey & The Bandit.
I was stationed at NAS Oceana (Va Beach, VA) in the mid 70s. Whenever I came home on leave, I was always asked to bring back some Coors.
Quote from: Ibanez on September 19, 2013, 03:32:51 PM
Why does he always have the same look on his face? It's a cross between surprise and constipation.
Probably trying to figure out how to stay funded.
Since the state narcotics bureaucracy (OBNDD) now does human trafficking,
(http://www.fox23.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=4350676)
maybe ABLE could get further into coin-operated machine crime?
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 20, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
I was stationed at NAS Oceana (Va Beach, VA) in the mid 70s. Whenever I came home on leave, I was always asked to bring back some Coors.
Toured the birthplace a few months ago up in Golden. I like the Banquet at normal strength. They had a few others i've never heard of or seen that were quite nice too. One was an answer to Boulevard's Tank 7. It was a really nice high-point, but much like Tank, if you drink too much you get the green-apple smoots.
The one I liked the most was their new Batch 19. Brought back a couple cases.
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Quote from: Ibanez on September 19, 2013, 09:03:42 PM
From now on I'm going to call that "Taking a Smoot"
He's crediting himself with not being able to find a Tulsa State Fair vendor willing to sell to an undercover 20yo.
Meanwhile, TCSO had arrested how many carnies by now last year?
Quote from: patric on September 27, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
He's crediting himself with not being able to find a Tulsa State Fair vendor willing to sell to an undercover 20yo.
Meanwhile, TCSO had arrested how many carnies by now last year?
I was wondering why the plague hasn't come this year. A 20 year old isn't getting drinks!
Quote from: patric on September 27, 2013, 02:44:10 PM
He's crediting himself with not being able to find a Tulsa State Fair vendor willing to sell to an undercover 20yo.
Meanwhile, TCSO had arrested how many carnies by now last year?
What a piece of Smoot! ;D
Quote from: Gaspar on September 27, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Toured the birthplace a few months ago up in Golden. I like the Banquet at normal strength. They had a few others i've never heard of or seen that were quite nice too. One was an answer to Boulevard's Tank 7. It was a really nice high-point, but much like Tank, if you drink too much you get the green-apple smoots.
The one I liked the most was their new Batch 19. Brought back a couple cases.
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We didn't have time to tour the brewery when we were there in August, instead we enjoyed a couple of cold banquets and Colorado Native a couple of blocks away from the mothership.
I'm not real sure what or who the BDO is. But it looks like Anheuser Busch has had their fill of them. Five States have this backward 3.2 Beer Law and It looks like we are inching closer to getting that changed. I'm tellin ya. If this happens. I may have to come out of retirement.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/beer-battle-brews-between-beer-distributors-of-oklahoma-and-anheuser/article_452df96e-e50e-5f87-8518-825cb02f2e2d.html
Quote from: DolfanBob on July 09, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
I'm not real sure what or who the BDO is. But it looks like Anheuser Busch has had their fill of them. Five States have this backward 3.2 Beer Law and It looks like we are inching closer to getting that changed. I'm tellin ya. If this happens. I may have to come out of retirement.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/beer-battle-brews-between-beer-distributors-of-oklahoma-and-anheuser/article_452df96e-e50e-5f87-8518-825cb02f2e2d.html
"Anheuser-Busch would like to see cold, single-strength beer available to consumers in Oklahoma."
This is a complete reversal of the position they have held for decades, where their low-point product was believed to increase consumption.
Maybe now they will also cut loose the myth that marijuana legalization kills beer sales (now that there is ample evidence to the contrary) and stop bankrolling the efforts to thwart reforms.
Quote from: patric on July 09, 2015, 10:43:51 AM
Maybe now they will also cut loose the myth that marijuana legalization kills beer sales (now that there is ample evidence to the contrary) and stop bankrolling the efforts to thwart reforms.
Nothing like a bud to go with a Bud.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 09, 2015, 11:11:38 AM
Nothing like a bud to go with a Bud.
The legalization of medical marijuana has helped beer sales, contrary to previous research that pointed to a decline, according to a note from Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Trevor Stirling. Recreational pot use in Colorado and Washington, the two states where it's legal, has so far not had a "significant impact" on beer, he said.
The research could relieve one concern for beermakers Anheuser-Busch InBev NV and SABMiller Plc, which have seen U.S. volume decline over the past five years due to high unemployment and a shift to spirits like bourbon and gin.
One brewer, Oskar Blues Brewing Co. of North Carolina, indicates on some of its beer cans where they might be punctured in order to turn the can into a bong.
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