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Title: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: ZYX on April 10, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
What's going on? There is currently a no-fly zone over Mayflower, Arkansas. Exxon Mobil seems to be trying to be secretive about their clean up efforts. I've also heard, though not confirmed, that they have intimidated journalists and are using questionable methods of cleaning the up the oil. Why is the government allowing this? People should be able to know the potential dangers of oil pipelines along with the benefits.

The handling of this situation has become infuriating. Someone please enlighten me to something that makes sense.
Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: JCnOwasso on April 11, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
Where is the evidence of a no fly zone?  This article seems pretty straight forward.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/11/uk-exxon-spill-mayflower-insight-idUKBRE93A0PV20130411
Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: Hoss on April 11, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/update-no-fly-zone-in-place-over-arkansas-pipeline-spill-site-20130403-00998#.UWb9YMqp8bI

And here's the FAA declaration:

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_8699.html
Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: Red Arrow on April 11, 2013, 02:07:12 PM
Quote from: Hoss on April 11, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/update-no-fly-zone-in-place-over-arkansas-pipeline-spill-site-20130403-00998#.UWb9YMqp8bI

And here's the FAA declaration:

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_8699.html

Hoss,

Thanks for looking that up to get the straight scoop.

Being restricted to flying above 1000 ft AGL is not a big deal except for the 3 airplanes that reside at the private airport near the spill.

It looks like the airport at Conway (to the north) is just outside the TFR area.  The main runway at Conway is E-W so there shouldn't be much if any problem.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCWS
http://www.airnav.com/airport/AR34

Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: Hoss on April 11, 2013, 02:21:43 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on April 11, 2013, 02:07:12 PM
Hoss,

Thanks for looking that up to get the straight scoop.

Being restricted to flying above 1000 ft AGL is not a big deal except for the 3 airplanes that reside at the private airport near the spill.

It looks like the airport at Conway (to the north) is just outside the TFR area.  The main runway at Conway is E-W so there shouldn't be much if any problem.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCWS
http://www.airnav.com/airport/AR34



Funny thing is that the TFR map doesn't show that; I had to dig it by doing a Google keyword search.  I'm unsure of what that means, but at least I found the document.

And it would also hinder news helicopters, which I'm sure is why a big stink is being made about it.
Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: JCnOwasso on April 11, 2013, 02:55:56 PM
If the oil company has asked for it for the safety of their helo crews, I completely understand. 

Quote"The pilot of the helicopter needs to be able to move about freely without potential conflicts with other aircraft," Mr. Lunsford wrote in an email. He said similar restrictions are regularly put in place when aircraft are used in disaster response.

The restriction was amended Wednesday to allow aircraft carrying members of the media as long as flights are properly coordinated.

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/update-no-fly-zone-in-place-over-arkansas-pipeline-spill-site-20130403-00998#ixzz2QBcjqdJQ
Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: patric on April 11, 2013, 02:56:40 PM
Though I read their rationale, I would still venture to say it was aimed squarely at KOTV.
Title: Re: Exxon Mobil trying to hide oil spill?
Post by: Red Arrow on April 11, 2013, 06:55:02 PM
Quote from: Hoss on April 11, 2013, 02:21:43 PM
Funny thing is that the TFR map doesn't show that; I had to dig it by doing a Google keyword search.  I'm unsure of what that means, but at least I found the document.

And it would also hinder news helicopters, which I'm sure is why a big stink is being made about it.

Just what we need... secret TFRs.
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