http://www.newson6.com/story/21240055/debate-begins-over-use-of-unmanned-drones-in-oklahoma-skies
TULSA, Oklahoma -
Drones have been a hot topic ever since U.S. Justice Department memos surfaced showing how they're been used to kill suspected terrorists, some who were U.S. citizens. Now the debate has come to Oklahoma. Some say building them will boost our economy; others argue they could be used as a government big brother, watching your every move. Drones allow the military to save lives and money, by not putting pilots in harm's way for dangerous missions. There has been concern that they could be used in the U.S. to target suspects.
The FAA clarified its position recently saying armed unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, are not allowed in U.S. airspace.
But will unarmed versions take off here?
State Representative Paul Wesselhoft of Moore is against it. He has introduced legislation that would require law enforcement to get a warrant before they could use one in Oklahoma. In a statement Wesselhoft says, "We have to keep in mind that these technologies have the very real potential to seriously erode privacy rights."
"We certainly don't want to have a small little drone about the size of toy helicopter to go buzzing around someone's backyard, looking in windows," said Tulsa Mayor Dewey Bartlett.
In Tulsa, they aren't being used yet. Mayor Bartlett says he would consider them to a certain point. "Privacy concerns are very paramount and very important to all of us and we certainly don't want to overstep in any manner shape or form infringe upon people's rights to privacy," said Mayor Dewey Bartlett.
Ben Kimbro's company, Tactical Electronics in Broken Arrow, makes UAVs and does contract work with governments around the world. He sits on the Governor's Unmanned Aerial Systems Council and believes UAV research would pour in tens of millions of dollars into our state's economy. Kimbro sees how some may be worried. "It is my belief and I've seen it in practice for 17 years that policy does an effective job of guiding law enforcement agents and officers on when and where they may use a specific technology," said Ben Kimbro, Executive Vice President of Tactical Electronics.
The state of Oklahoma is in the running for one of six Department of Defense/FAA test sites for UAVs. A decision could come later this year.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on February 20, 2013, 08:37:46 AM
The FAA clarified its position recently saying armed unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, are not allowed in U.S. airspace.
But will unarmed versions take off here?
Privacy issues are bad enough. I would also be concerned with airspace issues. I'd hate to hit one.
I wonder if any of the Army Surplus shops have any AA guns for sale??
Quote from: Ibanez on February 20, 2013, 09:26:39 AM
I wonder if any of the Army Surplus shops have any AA guns for sale??
If it's one of the little ones, a 12 gauge shotgun should do the job.
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Quote from: Elm Creek Smith on March 12, 2013, 02:16:43 AM
If it's one of the little ones, a 12 gauge shotgun should do the job.
http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/hunters-shoot-down-mikrokopter-used-by-animal-rights-group-to-fil?xg_source=activity
Problem is when they get you for discharging a firearm.
I live in the county. ;D
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Quote from: Red Arrow on February 20, 2013, 08:42:57 AM
Privacy issues are bad enough. I would also be concerned with airspace issues. I'd hate to hit one.
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — A hobbyist using a remote-control airplane mounted with a digital camera just happened to capture images last year of a Dallas creek running red with pig's blood. It led to a nearby meatpacking plant being fined for illegal dumping and two of its leaders being indicted on water pollution charges.
Yet, a Texas law that took effect Sept. 1 tightened rules not on polluters but on taking such photographs.
Texas' law tips the scales in police favor — giving them broad freedoms to use drones during investigations and allowing them to bypass a required search warrant if they have suspicions of illegal activity — while also limiting use of small drones by ordinary residents.
Republican state Rep. Lance Gooden said he introduced the bill in response to fears that animal rights groups or environmentalists could keep tabs on livestock ranches or oil pipelines. But he said exceptions were added after law enforcement agencies worried the drone bans would make it difficult to do their jobs.
"We didn't think that the Constitution gives someone the right to invade someone else's privacy," said Gooden, from Terrell, east of Dallas.
Drone Shoot-Down Bill Clears Oklahoma Senate Panel(http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kwgs/files/styles/card_280/public/201502/Drone_Hunting.jpg)
http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/drone-shoot-down-bill-clears-oklahoma-senate-panel (http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/drone-shoot-down-bill-clears-oklahoma-senate-panel)
QuoteOKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A bill to shield Oklahoma landowners from civil liability for shooting down drones flying over their property has narrowly cleared a Senate committee on a bipartisan vote.
The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 6-4 on Tuesday for the bill by Oklahoma City Republican Sen. Ralph Shortey over the concerns of some members who say the bill is unnecessary. It now proceeds to the full Senate.
Shortey says he's received reports of people shooting down drones, but acknowledged he's unaware of anyone being sued for doing so.
He says landowners have no way of knowing the intention of a drone's owner, and shouldn't be held liable for shooting one down.
Shortey says his bill wouldn't change criminal prohibitions on discharging firearms within city limits.
so we can just start shooting into the air? What happens to the bullets that miss a drone or are fired at drones with cloaking or phasing ability?
Quote from: carltonplace on February 10, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
so we can just start shooting into the air? What happens to the bullets that miss a drone or are fired at drones with cloaking or phasing ability?
Not a smile is given...I'm blowing these sum'bitches out of the sky at every opportunity
I'm protecting my air space too.....!!!
The trophy room is going to start taking on a tech edge.
Does anyone know someone who is having drone problems around their property? And if so. Is it to the degree that a Bill has to be drawn up against them?
I see nothing wrong with them. Unless the LGBT community starts using them. Then something must be done. ::)
Just shot down my first quad rotor..Man what a trophy......
Quote from: DolfanBob on February 10, 2015, 01:10:33 PM
Does anyone know someone who is having drone problems around their property? And if so. Is it to the degree that a Bill has to be drawn up against them?
I see nothing wrong with them. Unless the LGBT community starts using them. Then something must be done. ::)
There are gay drones?!! Sally Kern will have a come apart.
Quote from: carltonplace on February 10, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
There are gay drones?!! Sally Kern will have a come apart.
Noooo....!!!...Those are rockets...
Think this qualifies as a regulation without a problem. Wow.
Will there be a formal drone season or bag limit?
Quote from: Conan71 on February 10, 2015, 01:46:50 PM
Will there be a formal drone season or bag limit?
LOL. You'll need a separate tag for each different type of 'drone' you will be bagging. A quad tag, a hex tag...but no shooting of juveniles.
Quote from: Townsend on February 10, 2015, 12:34:22 PM
Not a smile is given...I'm blowing these sum'bitches out of the sky at every opportunity
New police radar drones can see inside homes
At least 50 U.S. law enforcement agencies quietly deployed radars that let them effectively see inside homes, with little notice to the courts or the public.
Police use of the radars was largely unknown until December, when a federal appeals court in Denver said officers had used one before they entered a house to arrest a man wanted for violating his parole. The judges expressed alarm that police had used the new technology without a search warrant, warning that "the government's warrantless use of such a powerful tool to search inside homes poses grave Fourth Amendment questions."
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1505138-00-wallsensorreport-508.html#document/p20/a198024
Maybe they'll add a FOF challenge to the software? ;D
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Quote from: guido911 on February 10, 2015, 05:41:54 PM
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Nice picture of your house.
;D
Quote from: TeeDub on March 12, 2013, 01:19:05 PM
http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/hunters-shoot-down-mikrokopter-used-by-animal-rights-group-to-fil?xg_source=activity
Problem is when they get you for discharging a firearm.
Think weapons grade laser. Just don't aim at on-board piloted aircraft.
;D
Misdemeanor....Plus they have to see you do it.....
Quote from: Red Arrow on February 10, 2015, 07:43:27 PM
Nice picture of your house.
;D
Thanks. Just wondering about those noises above my roof.
Quote from: guido911 on February 12, 2015, 02:12:51 AM
Thanks. Just wondering about those noises above my roof.
I think the sounds were from Santa and the reindeer.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on February 12, 2015, 03:44:50 PM
I think the sounds were from Santa and the reindeer.
Isn't that the name of your punk rock band?
Quote from: Breadburner on February 11, 2015, 10:26:22 AM
Misdemeanor....Plus they have to see you do it.....
They would call the drone a "police officer" like they do dogs, horses and SWAT robots....then would arrest you for "Assaulting a Police Officer" which falls under a completely different legal system which requires no evidence.
Quote from: Breadburner on February 11, 2015, 10:26:22 AM
Misdemeanor....Plus they have to see you do it.....
They would call the drone a "police officer" like they do dogs, horses and SWAT robots....
then would arrest you for "Assaulting a Police Officer" which falls under a completely different legal system which requires no evidence.