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Talk About Tulsa => Other Tulsa Discussion => Topic started by: BKDotCom on January 24, 2013, 01:25:13 PM

Title: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: BKDotCom on January 24, 2013, 01:25:13 PM
http://www.newson6.com/story/20670245/downtown-tulsa-bank-robbed
"There was no weapon produced or implied, no injuries were reported and only one customer was inside the branch."

Was there a crime commited?
If I walk into a bank and simply say "give me all your money"  have I commited a crime?
If the tellers comply?   (could they be  complicit in the "crime")?
Does wearing a mask make it a crime?
How about a hoodie?
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: AquaMan on January 24, 2013, 01:30:18 PM
I seem to remember a law passed about wearing a mask in a bank being illegal. It would seem to create a presumption of robbery with or without a weapon. I think being menacing in behavior might be enough for the average person. If not, the lawyers are sure to be available for him if caught.
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: rdj on January 24, 2013, 03:01:08 PM
If taking something that doesn't belong to you is still stealing then yes it's a crime.  The money doesn't belong to the teller, it actually doesn't technically belong to the bank, it belongs to the depositors.  So, anyone that takes money from the bank (ie the teller being in on it) without an authorized transaction would be stealing.
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: Gaspar on January 24, 2013, 03:21:35 PM
Yes, it is illegal to take something that is not yours.

About a week ago my bank somehow made a clerical error depositing $57 billion dollars into my bank account. I opted not to keep the funds, because they were not mine (and I doubt my bank has that much  ;))

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8513/8411468175_aaf256b28d.jpg)
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: DolfanBob on January 24, 2013, 03:27:04 PM
Gaspar. I see that was done on a Sunday. I'm sure by Monday morning it would have been corrected. But what a dream huh?
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: patric on January 24, 2013, 03:30:04 PM
Quote from: rdj on January 24, 2013, 03:01:08 PM
If taking something that doesn't belong to you is still stealing then yes it's a crime.  The money doesn't belong to the teller, it actually doesn't technically belong to the bank, it belongs to the depositors.  So, anyone that takes money from the bank (ie the teller being in on it) without an authorized transaction would be stealing.

The difference between stealing and robbery... is what he seemed to be getting at.
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: shadows on January 24, 2013, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on January 24, 2013, 03:21:35 PM
Yes, it is illegal to take something that is not yours.

About a week ago my bank somehow made a clerical error depositing $57 billion dollars into my bank account. I opted not to keep the funds, because they were not mine (and I doubt my bank has that much money

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Are you sure that since the house voted to increase the debit ceiling that is not your intended customary tax refund advanced for 2013.   
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: AquaMan on January 24, 2013, 05:36:38 PM
Clever Mr. Shadow. I'll take mine in coin thank you very much.
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: sauerkraut on January 25, 2013, 01:49:09 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on January 24, 2013, 03:21:35 PM
Yes, it is illegal to take something that is not yours.

About a week ago my bank somehow made a clerical error depositing $57 billion dollars into my bank account. I opted not to keep the funds, because they were not mine (and I doubt my bank has that much  ;))

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8513/8411468175_aaf256b28d.jpg)
If you kept the funds you'd just have to pay back all the money when the mistake was found out. Errors are normally found out during an audit.
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: Hoss on January 25, 2013, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on January 25, 2013, 01:49:09 PM
If you kept the funds you'd just have to pay back all the money when the mistake was found out. Errors are normally found out during an audit.

the OHP is calling, Mary...
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: Townsend on January 25, 2013, 01:59:11 PM
Quote from: Hoss on January 25, 2013, 01:55:52 PM
the OHP is calling, Mary...

I looked for the "Oh C'mon" video clip for Jim Belushi on "Man with One Red Shoe".  I was unsuccessful.
Title: Re: Downtown IBC robbed
Post by: BKDotCom on January 25, 2013, 04:42:13 PM
Quote from: patric on January 24, 2013, 03:30:04 PM
The difference between stealing and robbery... is what he seemed to be getting at.

Yes... when "does asking for money" ->  "begging for money" -> "demanding money" become a robbery?
Does "assault (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault)" come into play?

Non-violently I say to
     a) my friend:  "give me $!00"
     b) a bank teller:  "give me $!00"   (is this a crime along the lines of "Fire!" in a theater ?)