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Not At My Table - Political Discussions => National & International Politics => Topic started by: swake on January 23, 2013, 01:50:49 PM

Title: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: swake on January 23, 2013, 01:50:49 PM
A proposed bill in the Arizona legislature would require that high school student take an oath to defend the constitution before they graduate. Students would be required to say:
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I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose or evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge these duties; so help me God.
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/blog/business/2013/01/proposed-us-loyalty-oath-for-students.html?page=all
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: Hoss on January 23, 2013, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: swake on January 23, 2013, 01:50:49 PM
A proposed bill in the Arizona legislature would require that high school student take an oath to defend the constitution before they graduate. Students would be required to say:http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/blog/business/2013/01/proposed-us-loyalty-oath-for-students.html?page=all

Indoctrination!   :o
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: swake on January 23, 2013, 01:57:07 PM
Quote from: Hoss on January 23, 2013, 01:51:38 PM
Indoctrination!   :o

How exactly does one "take this obligation freely" when it's required. Morons.
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: Townsend on January 23, 2013, 02:26:47 PM
Quote from: swake on January 23, 2013, 01:57:07 PM
How exactly does one "take this obligation freely" when it's required. Morons.

The Arizona Jugend.

This thread practically Godwins itself.
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: patric on January 23, 2013, 03:07:01 PM
Quote from: swake on January 23, 2013, 01:50:49 PM
A proposed bill in the Arizona legislature would require that high school student take an oath to defend the constitution before they graduate. Students would be required to say:http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/blog/business/2013/01/proposed-us-loyalty-oath-for-students.html?page=all

Well, if the state paid for that education...
On the other hand, if an oath to uphold the constitution gets to be a burden, they can always have a public sector union show them how they dodge it.
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: guido911 on January 23, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Hold on now, Oklahoma is trying to keep up the crazy. 

http://kfor.com/2013/01/22/bill-filed-to-establish-medical-marijuana-program-in-okla/

I saw this was also covered in another thread.
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: Teatownclown on January 23, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: guido911 on January 23, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Hold on now, Oklahoma is trying to keep up the crazy. 

http://kfor.com/2013/01/22/bill-filed-to-establish-medical-marijuana-program-in-okla/

I saw this was also covered in another thread.

What specifically do you have a problem with?

Or, are you still fighting against change? Do you think this is about our culture?
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: YoungTulsan on January 23, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
Maybe he is afraid the decorticator will threaten his paper mill interests.
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: Teatownclown on January 23, 2013, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: YoungTulsan on January 23, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
Maybe he is afraid the decorticator will threaten his paper mill interests.

Maybe, but I think it's Guido's nerdy politics....
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: Hoss on January 23, 2013, 10:09:47 PM
Quote from: guido911 on January 23, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Hold on now, Oklahoma is trying to keep up the crazy. 

http://kfor.com/2013/01/22/bill-filed-to-establish-medical-marijuana-program-in-okla/

I saw this was also covered in another thread.

And Oklahoma, proving to the world that it just won't let Arizona outdo them:

http://www.thelostogle.com/2013/01/21/top-25-crazy-anti-obama-comments-posted-by-oklahomans-on-kfors-facebook-wall/

Derp, Derp, Derp....
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: guido911 on January 24, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
Quote from: YoungTulsan on January 23, 2013, 04:39:23 PM
Maybe he is afraid the decorticator will threaten his paper mill interests.

Nailed it.
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: swake on January 24, 2013, 08:23:27 AM
Quote from: Hoss on January 23, 2013, 10:09:47 PM
And Oklahoma, proving to the world that it just won't let Arizona outdo them:

http://www.thelostogle.com/2013/01/21/top-25-crazy-anti-obama-comments-posted-by-oklahomans-on-kfors-facebook-wall/

Derp, Derp, Derp....

It's a red state race to the top!
Title: Now, it's Idaho.
Post by: Hoss on February 06, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
Holy cow!  You just cannot make this smile up.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/feb/05/bill-requires-all-idaho-kids-read-atlas-shrugged/

Even though he said he doesn't mean to press forward, doesn' this dipstick know what kind of politician it will paint him as?
Title: Re: Arizona, working hard to out crazy Oklahoma, again.
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 07, 2013, 06:39:36 AM
Quote from: guido911 on January 23, 2013, 04:13:21 PM
Hold on now, Oklahoma is trying to keep up the crazy. 

I saw this was also covered in another thread.

Interesting how you can interpret a small step toward sanity as being Oklahoma trying to keep up the crazy.  I can compromise - I want some of what you are drinking - it's gotta be some good sh$t!!



Title: Re: Now, it's Idaho.
Post by: cannon_fodder on February 07, 2013, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: Hoss on February 06, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
Holy cow!  You just cannot make this smile up.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/feb/05/bill-requires-all-idaho-kids-read-atlas-shrugged/

Even though he said he doesn't mean to press forward, doesn' this dipstick know what kind of politician it will paint him as?

I like economics, I find it interesting.  I have read Adam Smith and Marx.  I follow an economics blog. I subsribe to the economist and read the Journal.  I'm a partner in an investment firm.  I raelly enjoy that stuff.

And I had trouble readnig Atlas Shrugged.  It is slow developing and tedious.  Interesting, but not really a great read.

That said, I think studying more basic economics in school is a great idea.  Before we jump into Atlas Shrugged lets start with credit card debt, 12% car loans, payday loans, and subprime mortgage lenders. . .  hell, I've worked with tenants to educate them on bank accounts.  We can start much mroe basic than Atlas Shurgged.  I mean, who is John Galt anyway?