Prairie Artisan Ales...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Prairie-Artisan-Ales/343283922420146
Quote from: Hoss on January 03, 2013, 07:08:08 PM
Prairie Artisan Ales...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Prairie-Artisan-Ales/343283922420146
Also:
http://www.prairieales.com/
I've consumed some of their Standard Hoppy Farmhouse Ale. It was pretty tasty. The style is cloudy so don't be surprised when it pours that way.
I think the beer is presently brewed by Choc under contract.
Where are they located?
Quote from: carltonplace on January 04, 2013, 08:12:51 AM
Where are they located?
From what I understand right now, Choc is brewing for them until they get their location set up. I have no idea where that is, admittedly.
EDIT: I do however know that Choc is located in Krebs, near McAlester. I just don't know where their local office is or will be.
Quote from: carltonplace on January 04, 2013, 08:12:51 AM
Where are they located?
Choc is in Krebs, OK near McAlester.
Chase Healy called me a couple of months ago about a boiler package for a brewery he was starting in Dallas. I need to revisit my notes and see if this is the same project or if Chase split from the group in Dallas and is now pursuing this with his younger brother.
Nice boys, their mother was my older daughter's fifth grade teacher and the younger of the two boys graduated with that daughter from HS.
they already announced distribution to some other, more mature craft beer markets like st Louis and possibly NYC.
they're clearly taking the go big or go home approach. none of that new brewery that starts with only commonly brewed styles.
hopefully this is the start of bigger and better things for Oklahoma craft beer. Marshall is a good first, conservative brewery. the next step is some more 'out there' breweries that take bigger risks.
the nytimes had a good piece on sour beer the other day.
what happened to dead armadillo brewing, another local that got some press a while back?
Quote from: Conan71 on January 04, 2013, 09:53:23 AM
Chase Healy called me a couple of months ago about a boiler package for a brewery he was starting in Dallas. I need to revisit my notes and see if this is the same project or if Chase split from the group in Dallas and is now pursuing this with his younger brother.
Nice boys, their mother was my older daughter's fifth grade teacher and the younger of the two boys graduated with that daughter from HS.
Prairie Artisan is ran by Chase and his brother.
Meh..!
Quote from: Red Arrow on January 03, 2013, 07:23:46 PM
Also:
http://www.prairieales.com/
I've consumed some of their Standard Hoppy Farmhouse Ale. It was pretty tasty. The style is cloudy so don't be surprised when it pours that way.
I think the beer is presently brewed by Choc under contract.
I just opened another. It's not cloudy. I cannot explain the difference. Still tasty.
Quote from: Red Arrow on January 04, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
Choc is in Krebs, OK near McAlester.
OK, so Prarie won't have their own local brewery ala Marshall's (referenced as per forum rules).
Talking to one of the beer guys at Ranch Acres over the weekend, he said Choc has quit running some of their own brews in favor of brewing Prairie's beers. I picked up a bomber of one of their brews but have yet to try it.
Quote from: Conan71 on January 07, 2013, 09:31:35 AM
Talking to one of the beer guys at Ranch Acres over the weekend, he said Choc has quit running some of their own brews in favor of brewing Prairie's beers. I picked up a bomber of one of their brews but have yet to try it.
Know where I'm going tonight after work then... ;D
Quote from: Hoss on January 07, 2013, 09:49:33 AM
Know where I'm going tonight after work then... ;D
They are on the kiosk just to the left of the shelves with most of the other bombers. That's one thing I do like about RA is the clerks are very well informed on product.
Prairie is making some fantastic beer. I've had the Standard and the Noir (oak aged imperial stout) and both were excellent. When I first read the label and noticed it was brewed in Krebs I thought that would mean that it sucks like Choc does, but it did not disappoint. I suspect when they say "Gypsy brewing" they mean they are just using the facilities there in Kreb, not that Choc is doing the brewing for them. I could be wrong though.
Either way with Prairie Artisan Ales, Marshall and COOP here I'd say the Oklahoma craft scene is doing well so far.. looking forward to watching it grow.
Quote from: Conan71 on January 07, 2013, 10:07:49 AM
They are on the kiosk just to the left of the shelves with most of the other bombers. That's one thing I do like about RA is the clerks are very well informed on product.
That they are. I like going to Collins also since its just down the road from work, but I split time between there and RA.
To counter the Ranch Acres love, don't forget this quote.
QuoteMary Stewart of Ranch Acres Wine & Spirits:
Out-of-state corporations would be big winners in a move to loosen alcohol sales, she said, and consumers would be the big losers because fewer wine and beer labels would be available in the marketplace.
"Letting those big superstores into the market is not going to help us here," she said. "The selection would diminish. The prices would certainly not go down on the bulk of things."
Yes, that must be why so many people from other states come to Oklahoma to buy beer while no one does the reverse. ;D ;D ;D
Biergarten in Jenks actually supports better laws. Ranch Acres supports keeping us as the worst beer state to bolster their profits.
Quote from: TheTed on January 07, 2013, 03:02:25 PM
To counter the Ranch Acres love, don't forget this quote.
Yes, that must be why so many people from other states come to Oklahoma to buy beer while no one does the reverse. ;D ;D ;D
Biergarten in Jenks actually supports better laws. Ranch Acres supports keeping us as the worst beer state to bolster their profits.
To be fair, letting grocery/convenience stores sell high point beer and/or wine will seriously hurt liquor stores if nothing is changed to let liquor stores sell cold beer and mixers. Our laws need a complete overhaul, not just one change to entice deep pocketed out-of-state interests.
Contract brewing seems like a good way for a new brand to get its product to market and build some brand recognition before making a large capital investment. Now if we could just change to law to allow craft distilling....
Quote from: DTowner on January 07, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
To be fair, letting grocery/convenience stores sell high point beer and/or wine will seriously hurt liquor stores if nothing is changed to let liquor stores sell cold beer and mixers. Our laws need a complete overhaul, not just one change to entice deep pocketed out-of-state interests.
Contract brewing seems like a good way for a new brand to get its product to market and build some brand recognition before making a large capital investment. Now if we could just change to law to allow craft distilling....
It's only been legal to homebrew in Oklahoma since 2010. We were one of three states left.
It's going to be a while before these laws are changed.
Quote from: DTowner on January 07, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
To be fair, letting grocery/convenience stores sell high point beer and/or wine will seriously hurt liquor stores if nothing is changed to let liquor stores sell cold beer and mixers.
I have gotten the impression that many liquor stores don't want to make the investment in refrigeration equipment to sell cold beer. One way to avoid that investment is to keep the laws as they are. I agree that if grocery/convenience stores get to sell strong beer and wine that liquor stores need to be allowed to sell non-alcoholic items such as mixers. HEB stores in Texas have a reasonable variety of beer but no where near the variety I have seen in Texas liquor stores.
Quote from: Townsend on January 07, 2013, 05:01:12 PM
It's only been legal to homebrew in Oklahoma since 2010.
Now it takes a license from ABLE. It's not difficult to get one though.
Quote from: DTowner on January 07, 2013, 04:56:45 PM
To be fair, letting grocery/convenience stores sell high point beer and/or wine will seriously hurt liquor stores if nothing is changed to let liquor stores sell cold beer and mixers. Our laws need a complete overhaul, not just one change to entice deep pocketed out-of-state interests.
Contract brewing seems like a good way for a new brand to get its product to market and build some brand recognition before making a large capital investment. Now if we could just change to law to allow craft distilling....
I disagree that it hurts the liquor stores greatly, at least on high end or specialty items. Here's why:
Grocers cannot afford the shelf space to carry true micro-brews- something other than Sam Adams, Boulevard, or various "micros" either being brewed or sold through AB or MillerCoors. I really don't suspect that higher point beer in the grocery store would end up generating any more revenue than 3.2 does now.
When I go into a grocery store in Texas, NM, or Colorado that sells wine, it's mostly all lower end product. They cannot afford to carry $40 a bottle wine. Yellow Tail, Barefoot, Little Penguin, Rosemont, and Black Opal are pretty much commodities and I doubt there is a lot of mark up in any of those brands.
If the trade-off was for liquor stores to sell cold beer, I suspect they might actually gain revenue by being able to finally carry higher point versions of domestic swill.
It would be a nice convenience to pick up a bottle of a pedestrian quality red or some KJ chardonnay to go with dinner while at the grocery store. At least from my stand-point, it wouldn't end up costing the liquor store I primarily deal with even 10% of their business annually.
I would think that the grocery stores and whatever else would come in to sell high point and hard stuff would employ more people that a handful of stores, also in other states the liquor stores are still doing just fine just without the monopoly...they will just have to change with the times and find new ways to market, competition will come into play and prices will go down for all of us
Quote from: Red Arrow on January 07, 2013, 08:57:09 PM
Now it takes a license from ABLE. It's not difficult to get one though.
Really? I don't think anyone is aware that they need an ABLE license to make beer at home...I sure wasn't.
Quote from: carltonplace on January 08, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
Really? I don't think anyone is aware that they need an ABLE license to make beer at home...I sure wasn't.
Eh, I refuse to stop whale hunting. Don't worry about the silly laws.
Quote from: carltonplace on January 08, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
Really? I don't think anyone is aware that they need an ABLE license to make beer at home...I sure wasn't.
I don't know how much effort will be expended on enforcing the law but yes, you legally need a license.
Quote from: Red Arrow on January 08, 2013, 02:02:56 PM
I don't know how much effort will be expended on enforcing the law but yes, you legally need a license the ABLE Commission figured out another way to collect money.
Quote from: Conan71 on January 08, 2013, 02:03:52 PM
You better be sitting down for this:There is no fee to the State. If you know a notary who will notarize for free, it costs an envelope and a stamp.
Edit:
Add link to FOAM and link to download ABLE Homebrew License Application
http://www.alemakers.com/download.php?view.252
I'd be fine with keeping strong beer out of grocery stores if liquor stores could sell cold beer and could stay open til midnight and be open on Sundays. That is the worst part of it. I also agree that strong beer in liquor stores would not devestate the liquor stores as much as expected for the reason stated above, that InBev and MillerCoors will dominate the shelf space at grocery stores and try and squeeze out microbrews. They are already doing that in other markets. That is why InBev and MillerCoors keep gobbling up what used to be independent brands--to make it seem as though you're getting a variety of choices when in fact your only buying from one of the two monters in the industry.
Quote from: Red Arrow on January 08, 2013, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 08, 2013, 02:03:52 PM
You better be sitting down for this:
There is no fee to the State. If you know a notary who will notarize for free, it costs an envelope and a stamp.
Edit:
Add link to FOAM and link to download ABLE Homebrew License Application
http://www.alemakers.com/download.php?view.252
I think I just crapped myself.
Quote from: Red Arrow on January 08, 2013, 02:10:27 PM
You better be sitting down for this:
There is no fee to the State. If you know a notary who will notarize for free, it costs an envelope and a stamp.
I just Roker'd.
Quote from: TheTed on January 04, 2013, 04:25:07 PM
what happened to dead armadillo brewing, another local that got some press a while back?
What the Ale: Dead Armadillo brews a Hooligan brew for the Tulsa Athletics Soccer Clubhttp://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/whattheale/what-the-ale-dead-armadillo-brews-a-hooligan-brew-for/article_57246d28-7256-11e3-973a-0019bb30f31a.html
Tulsa Athletics and Dead Armadillo to release Hooligan Alehttp://www.tulsaathletics.com/news/tulsa-athletics-and-dead-armadillo-to-release-hooligan-ale1/
http://www.deadarmadillobrewery.com/
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