Remember the OHP Officer that choked a Ambulance driver on video and was allowed to take a few weeks off with pay? And then turn right around and assault another man in a neighbors driveway for asking a question?
And the OHP Officer who basicaly caused a Highway tragedy and the Department tried to blame the truck driver and then turned around and named a stretch of Highway after him?
And now we have this one. A Three year old child is dead because of the negligence of a OHP Officer in his own home. A loaded firearm on a night stand and no charges are expected to be filed.
Without a Badge or Uniform. What would you or I expect to have happen to us in these same situations?
Quote from: DolfanBob on December 17, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
What would you or I expect to have happen to us in these same situations?
Sadly, it depends on how much money we have. If this happened to a wealthy person, it would be a tragic accident and all the information would be channeled through an attorney. If it were one of us po' folks, however, we'd be introduced to our new roomie, Cletus, who'd opine that "Ya'll go a purty mouth!"
Quote from: DolfanBob on December 17, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
Remember the OHP Officer that choked a Ambulance driver on video and was allowed to take a few weeks off with pay? And then turn right around and assault another man in a neighbors driveway for asking a question?
And the OHP Officer who basicaly caused a Highway tragedy and the Department tried to blame the truck driver and then turned around and named a stretch of Highway after him?
And now we have this one. A Three year old child is dead because of the negligence of a OHP Officer in his own home. A loaded firearm on a night stand and no charges are expected to be filed.
Without a Badge or Uniform. What would you or I expect to have happen to us in these same situations?
They pay hefty dues to unions and associations whose legal teams debrief them before they are allowed to be questioned.
This may be what you were referring to:
http://newsok.com/boy-shot-and-killed-in-logan-county-was-nephew-of-oklahoma-trooper/article/3738312
A three-year-old boy is dead after he got ahold of a handgun. It happened in Guthrie, at the home of an Oklahoma Highway Trooper, where the little boy was visiting family.
"There was at least one, if not more adults in the home at the time, as well as a couple of other children. It was a normal Saturday morning for them," says Logan County Sheriff's Dept, Capt. Richard Stephens, who urges other families to use caution.
"Tools of any sort can cause injuries, whether it's a hammer that someone left on a shelf, a saw blade, a drill bit, or in this case a handgun," says Capt. Stephens.
It took a few day's but "The Daily Mail" finally picked up the story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249744/Ryder-Rozier-3-dies-accidentally-shooting-head-uncles-handgun.html
And so goes those who seek the Midas touch. Jefferson emphases, when he was not in the slave trade, that the democratic process easily leads to mob rule. Throughout all history governments of their peers have resorted to rule the populist of the society, to become in the end its master. The citizens of the mid-east seek to control this thousand year old error.
Quote from: shadows on December 19, 2012, 08:26:31 PM
And so goes those who seek the Midas touch. Jefferson emphases, when he was not in the slave trade, that the democratic process easily leads to mob rule. Throughout all history governments of their peers have resorted to rule the populist of the society, to become in the end its master. The citizens of the mid-east seek to control this thousand year old error.
OK, I see what.....And you're saying Uhh.....Let me reread.....Oh forget it! What the Hell does that mean pertaining to this subject? ???
Quote from: DolfanBob on December 20, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
OK, I see what.....And you're saying Uhh.....Let me reread.....Oh forget it! What the Hell does that mean pertaining to this subject? ???
Maybe reading it in latin:
QuoteEt veniens quaerentium tactus Midae. Jefferson emphases, cum esset non in servus negotiamini, quod democraticis processus facile ducit ad vulgi regulam. Per omnes history gubernationes parium suorum concurrerint, ut praeesset populist autem societatis, ad fiunt in finem sui magistrum. Cives medium-oriente quærunt controlare hoc mille anniculum error.
and if you translate it back to English:
QuoteAnd coming curry Midas Touch. Jefferson emphasis, when he was not in the slave trade, which easily leads to the democratic process and the rule of the mob. Through all of history, governments have resorted to their peers, to rule the populist of the society, to take place in the end of his master. Citizens seek to control the mid-east, the thousand-year old mistake.
Yep T-Man. Clear as mud.
Quote from: DolfanBob on December 20, 2012, 08:30:40 AM
OK, ...Oh forget it! What the Hell does that mean pertaining to this subject? ???
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It seems to some in this nation of mixed races, meekly kneeling to the masters that "Corporate America" with the Midas touch (anything they touch turns to gold) is creating for the working poor new masters which are exempt from the rules provided for such working poor. This Conglomeration sets aside from the preamble of the constitution which dwelled with state rights only to the point where it has driven the working poor in debt holding in jeopardy their ability to survive.
Now if one is making above the $400,000 yearly I don't know what the hell they would gripe about paying a few more dollars in taxes .
I love Jeopardy. Cartoons for a thousand, Alex.
Quote from: shadows on December 20, 2012, 08:20:27 PM
Now if one is making above the $400,000 yearly I don't know what the hell they would gripe about paying a few more dollars in taxes .
I think anyone making more money than I do shouldn't complain about paying a few more dollars in taxes than they pay now. ;D
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 20, 2012, 09:36:50 PM
I think anyone making more money than I do shouldn't complain about paying a few more dollars in taxes than they pay now. ;D
Or even near as much as you do....
Who ever said life is fair, even the U.S. constitution does not say "life has to be fair"
And Texas Highway Patrolmen are also Untouchable. The "With Pay" always gets me. Hell I would violate someone at least twice a year.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257129/David-Ferrell-suspended-Second-Texas-trooper-suspended-body-cavity-search-caught-tape.html
One could surmise that the long arms of the untouchables reached out to help Federal Attorney Duke find a new vocation in a private practice instead of pursuing TPD ongoing Grand jury corruption investigation even from Arkansas.
Incidental ?
The untouchable CEO of Tulsa's Ambulance service seems be holding two full time jobs and drawing full time salaries from each.
Then the handfed phantom trust/board doesn't see any thing wrong with CEO's open check book approach. They don't want to see it.
Quote from: DolfanBob on January 04, 2013, 09:55:16 AM
And Texas Highway Patrolmen are also Untouchable. The "With Pay" always gets me. Hell I would violate someone at least twice a year.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257129/David-Ferrell-suspended-Second-Texas-trooper-suspended-body-cavity-search-caught-tape.html
This one went to jail, for poisoning a historic tree:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/23/cut-down-to-size-tree-poisoning-alabama-football-fan-gets-three-years-in-prison/
Quote from: DolfanBob on January 04, 2013, 09:55:16 AM
And Texas Highway Patrolmen are also Untouchable. The "With Pay" always gets me. Hell I would violate someone at least twice a year.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257129/David-Ferrell-suspended-Second-Texas-trooper-suspended-body-cavity-search-caught-tape.html
Nobody wants to be pulled over by officer Slippyfist
You picked a real psycho:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?id=6575499
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MANCHAC, La. -- Harvey Updyke walks into the famous catfish place down in the swamp, takes off his crimson houndstooth baseball cap and asks, right off the bat, if I know where he could get some cheap tickets to next year's Alabama-Ole Miss game. Provided, he makes sure to point out later, he's not in prison.
While I'm trying to figure out the appropriate response, he tells this story.
"Yeah," he says, "uh, I liked to not made this deal. Two nights ago I had really, really bad chest pains. I had 'em all night long, off and on. I didn't tell my wife because I knew she'd make me go to the emergency room. You know I have a pacemaker and I've already had open-heart surgery?"
Harvey keeps going, telling me about going to the doctor the next day and explaining, after an examination, that his condition might be stress-related. Then he re-creates the conversation.
Doctor: Are you under a lot of stress?
Harvey: More than you'll ever know.
Doctor: What kind of stress? Family related? Financial?
Harvey: I really don't want to get into it.
Doctor: I really need to know.
Harvey: OK. You keep up with college football?
Doctor: Yeah, I do.
Harvey: You hear about that guy that supposedly poisoned those trees at Auburn?
Doctor: Yeah.
Harvey: Well, that's me.
Doctor (laughing hysterically): I'm glad you don't hate LSU. You may have poisoned our tiger.
The tape recorder says two minutes and 23 seconds. I just stare across the table at this polite 62-year-old man, his hair neatly combed, his face covered by a beard he hopes will allow him a measure of anonymity. Well, I stare at two different people, both of whom have made an appearance in the first two minutes.
There is Harvey Updyke, a remorseful grandfather who claims he didn't poison those trees and wishes he'd never called a radio show to take credit for it.
And there's Al from Dadeville -- Updyke's radio nom de guerre -- who loves Alabama football, and, if he's being totally honest, doesn't understand why everybody's so damn mad.
Harvey Updyke was 3 years old when his dad was killed by a drunk driver. His mom met a man, and they all moved from Texas to Milton, Fla. Seven years later, Updyke sat in front of the television when the "Bear Bryant Show" came on. Maybe he just really liked football. Maybe he was desperate for a man to replace his father.
"I was 10 years old," he says. "I was laying there watching the 'Bear Bryant Show.' Golden Flake and Coca-Cola was the sponsor. I told my mother right there, if I ever have a son, I'm gonna name him Bear Bryant."
Al from Dadeville actually did it.
Earlier this month, a Lee County (Ala.) grand jury indicted Harvey Updyke Jr., 62, on four felony charges and two misdemeanors. He faces two felony counts of first-degree criminal mischief, two felony counts for unlawful damage, vandalism or theft of property from a farm animal or crop facility and two misdemeanor counts of desecrating a venerated object, according to court documents.
Updyke is scheduled for arraignment on Thursday before Lee County Circuit Court Judge Jacob A. Walker III. A tentative trial date is set for June 20.
If convicted, Updyke could face up to 10 years in prison for each felony charge and as much as a one-year sentence and $2,000 fine on each misdemeanor.
He convinced his first wife to let him name their first child Bear Bryant Updyke. When it was a girl, they named her Crimson Tyde. Their next child was a boy and, sure enough, his name was Bear. Al's two dogs are named Bama and Nicky. He has 46 Alabama hats. Last year, he found Alabama national championship T-shirts on sale for $3.41. He bought all 18 in stock. When he was 19, he ran onto the field at the Bluebonnet Bowl, carrying a roll of toilet paper and a box of Tide. More recently, he tried to convince his current wife to name a daughter Ally Bama. He begged. Her response was "Are you crazy?" She also refused to promise that she'd honor his request to bury him in crimson. Even before the Toomer's allegations, she thought he took this Alabama thing too far. She told him he better get a tattoo if he wanted to be buried with anything related to a football team.
Sitting at the table, Al from Dadeville rolls up his sleeve.
It's an elephant with the words Bama and Roll Tide.
"I hate tattoos," he says. "I f---ing hate tattoos."
Again, I'm speechless.
"Well, I'm just a very unhealthy Alabama fan," he says. "I live it. I breathe it. I think about Alabama football, I'm not exaggerating, 18 hours a day. I have always been that way. It just didn't start. That's what people don't understand. The first thing I do when I wake up in the morning is get on Tiderinsider and see what's going on. I mean, I know it's not healthy. I've been knowing that a long time. I have a daughter 33 years old named Crimson Tyde."
When his son calls him, the name on his caller ID is Bear Bryant. He uses both names. And how is his name programmed into his son's phone these days?
Al from Dadeville.
Harvey Updyke moved to Alabama in the winter of 2008. He'd retired after a long career as a Texas state trooper. A wreck in a high-speed chase left him with a broken neck and in pretty constant pain. Retirement would give him a long-awaited rest. And he'd finally get to follow the Crimson Tide up close. It was heaven.
His first football season in Alabama was 2009.
The football gods, it seemed, were rewarding him for seasons of loyal fanaticism. The Crimson Tide were going to the national championship game. When he heard a small block of tickets were being sold to Pasadena, he had everyone he knew call to try to get a pair. That didn't work, but, from an old high school friend with corporate connections, a miracle. Updyke was going to see Alabama play for the national title at the Rose Bowl. He found his seats and took in the crisp California air, the football team on the field, the tense countdown until kickoff.
Harvey started crying.
When he got home, he framed his ticket stub and looked forward to 2010. Season 2 brought hopes of a repeat. Imagine, to be a fan from afar for your entire life and then walk into this. Last year, he went to more Alabama games -- eight -- than he'd ever made it to before in a single season. He was at the Iron Bowl, when Alabama ran out to a 24-0 lead, and he was there when Auburn scored 28 points to win. That night, he and a friend had a hotel reservation in Tuscaloosa. They didn't bother, pointing the car south, toward home.
"We just drove straight back to Dadeville," he says, "seriously, I bet we didn't say 10 words."
Fifteen days after Auburn won the national championship, Al from Dadeville called "The Paul Finebaum Show."
He was livid.
Moving back to Alabama had also put him in close proximity to Auburn -- and legions of Auburn fans. In Dadeville, he'd discovered an enemy. Now they had reason to gloat.
"I had to put up with that mess," he says. "That's when I really started hating 'em."
Something happened. He listened to the radio most days, all the rumors and accusations, the air full of drama and hate. So Al from Dadeville became convinced that 2010 had been stolen, that Cam Newton and a slew of other players had been bought, that the title had been bought. The other callers made him crazy, I-Man, and Tammy, and all the Auburn fans gloating over their rise and Bama's unexpected fall. Finebaum's show, which is wildly important in Alabama, is strange that way. You can listen to it for four hours, and there are all these little innuendos in the shorthand of people who are familiar with minutiae, and when it's over, you don't really remember any specifics, only that you're pissed.
On Jan. 27, he'd had enough.
Al picked up the phone. In the months since then, he's listened to this interview only a few times. His son has listened to it so many times that his little daughter can recite it. "She's 4 years old," Al from Dadeville says, "she can say basically the whole interview."
So, anyway, he dials the number for Finebaum and is on the air.
Al from Dadeville: The weekend after the Iron Bowl, I went to Auburn, Ala., because I lived 30 miles away, and I poisoned the two Toomer's trees. I put Spike 80DF in 'em.
Paul: Did they die?
Al: Do what?
Paul: Did ... they ... die?
Al: They're not dead yet, but they definitely will die.
Paul: Is it against the law to poison a tree?
Al: Do you think I care?
Paul: No.
Al: I really don't! And you can tell Tammy, I hope ... never mind. Roll Damn Tide!
Harvey Updyke hung up the phone. He had just ruined his entire life in 62 words. Soon, the police would connect him with Al from Dadeville and nothing would ever be the same.
"I'll [be] honest with you," he says. "I realized it was a bad idea when I was doing it. You know, I'm not stupid ... "
Sitting in the catfish place, in the middle of the quote, Al from Dadeville takes over.
Tending to the trees
Wright Thompson describes what makes Toomer's Corner and the trees so special to Auburn. Watch Video
"... I want to be honest with you," he says, "and I told all my friends this. I actually wanted to get caught. I wanted them to know it was me. I had no earthly idea it was gonna be a felony, and they'd try to get me for poisoning the water system. Never in my wildest dreams. I thought it'd be $500-$600 fine. I thought that was all there'd be to it. I had no earthly idea they'd also accuse me of masterminding 9/11."
Still, he listened to the end of that show, as the enemy began calling up, furious, distraught.
"As soon as I did it," he says, "Auburn went absolutely berserk on the radio. They went ballistic. I sat there and listened to the reaction."
Harvey Updyke says he didn't do it.
Sure, he made the call, but he did not poison those trees. The guy sitting next to him at the Iron Bowl did. A dude in his 30s, with brown hair and an Alabama pullover.
"He's the one that told me about Spike 80DF," Updyke says. "He told me he was gonna poison the trees. I'd never heard of Spike 80DF. To be honest with you, I didn't know a whole lot about Toomer's Corner. I knew all about Auburn, but didn't know anything about these trees. That's where I come up with the idea. My defense is that I didn't do it. I told the police from day one about this guy. I told 'em what seat I was in. I don't know if he's a season-ticket holder."
Al from Dadeville thinks he's a victim.
"They want to take some of the pressure off them because of them buying players," he says. "If you'll notice, every time something is fixing to come out about those four players, they bring a new article about me. I guarantee you, they'll get less time than I do and they arm-robbed."
The four ex-Auburn players arrested for armed robbery have become an obsession. On three or so occasions, he says that he expects to get a longer sentence than them, and this, he believes, is just another example in his larger point about Auburn's corruption.
"I am by no means the first one," he says.
The huh?
"Do you know the story behind Bevo?"
He begins rattling off pranks. Texas A&M fans stealing the Texas Longhorn and branding it with a score of a game, and Texas rebranding the word "Bevo" over it, hence the mascot's name. Army-Navy, he says, and a kidnapped goat that was painted pink. One that Rice pulled on Texas.
"What do you think is different?" I ask.
"Me, personally," he says, "I don't think it's a whole lot different."
I don't know what to say at first. I look across the table and decide he's serious.
"Except they didn't shoot Bevo," I say, finally.
Al from Dadeville blows right through that.
"They already knew the trees were dying," he says. "Every time they throw toilet paper in there, they take a high pressure water sprayer and wash if off. That's also killing the trees."
I ask if he understands why so many people are mad.
"I get it," he says. "I understand completely why they're pissed. You know, they've been s---ting on Bear Bryant's grave for 30 years. That's a felony, and they're not doing anything about that. They vandalized Nick Saban's lake house. Painted it orange and blue."
Harvey Updyke thinks about his career in the highway patrol a lot these days. All that work, just thrown away. For a football team.
"Most people don't know this," he says, "but I still have state records for DWIs in Texas. In March of 1983, I filed 40 DWIs in one month. Most police officers don't file 40 in a year. In '83, I filed 227 DWIs for the year. I think I've done a lot of good in my life. I got shot at three times. Made a 7,000-pound bust of marijuana. I was a hardworking police officer, and I think I did a good job. Now to be known for this? I've got 16 grandkids. I can't even go back to Texas to see 'em."
Al from Dadeville seems like he expected to be greeted as a conquering hero. Maybe it was as simple as confusing the angry mob on Finebaum with the fan base as a whole, or maybe it was something deeper, but he figured his side would have his back. After all, he'd struck a blow against the enemy. He was surprised to find the opposite was true, with Tide for Toomer's raising money on Facebook, with former Alabama players calling him horrible names, with Saban writing a check to help try to save the trees.
"It hurt my feelings," he says.
Harvey Updyke is a sick, scared man who realizes he could go to prison. There's another hearing this week, and he's facing four felony charges in Alabama and maybe more from federal prosecutors. He knows what happens to former police officers in jail. And although he never straight-up admits during our two hours together that he poisoned the trees, he knows this is his fault, and there's nobody else to blame. He understands how people feel about him -- he read all 800-plus messages sent to his Facebook account by enraged Auburn fans -- but he says that if the roles were reversed, he'd want to show mercy.
"I'll be honest with you," he says. "If an Auburn fan had destroyed Bear Bryant's statue and the guy is 62 years old and is in real bad health, I swear to God, I would not expect and would not want him to go to prison. Probation, five years. Ten years. Replace it. A thousand hours of community service."
He looks very small when he sits at the table and thinks about jail. There is no way this story has a happy ending, for Auburn fans who seem sure to lose priceless symbols of the university's roots and rise and recent success, for Alabama fans who will now lose the class argument until the end of time. Nor will there be a happy ending for Updyke and his family. Sometimes, he just wishes he were dead.
The story he told when we first sat down? About the chest pains? Well, he didn't exactly tell the whole truth. He says he didn't say anything to his wife all night because part of him hoped he'd just go on and die.
"I told her, 'I'd rather be dead than go to prison,'" he says. "She said, 'Are you crazy?' 'No, I'm not crazy.' I tell you right now, I'd rather be dead than go to prison. I honestly believe if they put me in prison, within three months, I'll be dead."
One thing, he says, has kept him from doing something drastic. When he was a cop, he heard a statistic he can't forget. If a man commits suicide, he says they told him, his children have an exponentially higher chance of suicide.
"That is the only reason I haven't killed myself," he says. "I mean, I'm serious. I just can't see a future. Auburn is not gonna be satisfied until they put me in prison."
We walk out of the famous catfish place, me, Harvey Updyke and Al from Dadeville, all of us headed to the parking lot that runs out to the swamp. Al asks me again about cheap tickets to the Ole Miss-Alabama game. Harvey tells me to drive safe on my way home.
We're about to part ways, me back up the road, Updyke on a different path, one that seems likely to be leading to prison. He loved a football team so much he ruined his life. I tell him to be careful. He nods and opens his car door.
"There's nuts on both sides," he says. "I guess I'm one of 'em."
Quote from: CharlieSheen on March 23, 2013, 10:32:38 AM
Nobody wants to be pulled over by officer Slippyfist
Officer Slippyfist's brother?
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"Most people don't know this," he says, "but I still have state records for DWIs in Texas. In March of 1983, I filed 40 DWIs in one month. Most police officers don't file 40 in a year. In '83, I filed 227 DWIs for the year. I think I've done a lot of good in my life. I got shot at three times. Made a 7,000-pound bust of marijuana. I was a hardworking police officer, and I think I did a good job."
Somehow I think he was the type of cop that made other cops jobs a lot harder, like that school over-achiever in the front row that threw the curve on every test. Might be a real honey-pot for some law office that wants to go back and review all his questionable arrests for class actions.