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Title: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: carltonplace on October 17, 2012, 07:59:50 AM
Men's Health Magazine Rates Tulsa one of the best places for a cardial infarction:

91. Tulsa, OK (F)
92. Cleveland, OH (F)
93. Buffalo, NY (F)
94. Toledo, OH (F)
95. Milwaukee, WI (F)
96. St. Louis, MO (F)
97. Baltimore, MD (F)
98. Charleston, WV (F)
99. Birmingham, AL (F)
100. Philadelphia, PA (F)


Read more at Men's Health: http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/coronary-capitals?cm_mmc=Yahoo_Health-_-The%2010%20Worst%20U.S.%20Cities%20for%20Heart%20Health-_-Slideshow-_-Coronary%20Capitals#ixzz29YpMt8Ap
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: Conan71 on October 17, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
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Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: Ed W on October 17, 2012, 04:45:37 PM
You know, I had an infarction earlier today, but those Gas-X pills really helped.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: DolfanBob on October 17, 2012, 05:16:18 PM
Wow. And my Mother had a Heart transplant at Baptist Memorial Hospital in OKC and lived with it for over eight years. They saved her life after she was misdiagnosed twice at Mayo Clinic Hospital in Minnesota.

She passed away after having Kidney failure. So a F rating for OKC is kind of strange to me.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: carltonplace on October 18, 2012, 09:39:35 AM
Quote from: DolfanBob on October 17, 2012, 05:16:18 PM
Wow. And my Mother had a Heart transplant at Baptist Memorial Hospital in OKC and lived with it for over eight years. They saved her life after she was misdiagnosed twice at Mayo Clinic Hospital in Minnesota.

She passed away after having Kidney failure. So a F rating for OKC is kind of strange to me.

Sorry about your mom.

The bad rating is because of health risks and habits that lead to heart events. Tulsa and OKC have higher smoking rates, higher obesity rates, poor education, poor exercise habits, poor health care coverage and access, fewer areas that promote walking/biking for commuters as compared to other cities. Its not really about how well you will be taken care of once your heart attacks you. Apparently our medical centers have ample practice in pulling people back from the brink.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: Conan71 on October 18, 2012, 09:48:47 AM
Quote from: carltonplace on October 18, 2012, 09:39:35 AM
Sorry about your mom.

The bad rating is because of health risks and habits that lead to heart events. Tulsa and OKC have higher smoking rates, higher obesity rates, poor education, poor exercise habits, poor health care coverage and access, fewer areas that promote walking/biking for commuters as compared to other cities. Its not really about how well you will be taken care of once your heart attacks you. Apparently our medical centers have ample practice in pulling people back from the brink.

Except in Tulsa we have some of the best trails in the U.S. for walking, biking, or running and no shortage of local events to promote exercise.  It seems like there is a 5K run or a benefit walk virtually every or every other weekend.  For commuting, I agree Tulsa still has a long way to go.

Tulsa and OKC both have better medical facilities and access to those facilities for lower income people than most cities our size around the nation. 

Tulsa and OKC citizens aren't under-served, they under-utilize what is available to them.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: Townsend on November 19, 2012, 10:48:45 AM
America's Unhealthiest Cities for Women

In the top 10:

Tulsa, Oklahoma

Poor habits, high disease risk and life expectancy is falling.

And here's the flikr photo they used to show Tulsa.

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I think we need to push women's health and fix our city's image issues at the same time.  "Tulsa, the Paris of Oklahoma.  We have buildings."

Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: patric on November 23, 2012, 12:06:22 PM
Quote from: carltonplace on October 17, 2012, 07:59:50 AM
Men's Health Magazine Rates Tulsa one of the best places for a cardial infarction:

91. Tulsa, OK (F)
92. Cleveland, OH (F)
93. Buffalo, NY (F)
94. Toledo, OH (F)
95. Milwaukee, WI (F)
96. St. Louis, MO (F)
97. Baltimore, MD (F)
98. Charleston, WV (F)
99. Birmingham, AL (F)
100. Philadelphia, PA (F)


Read more at Men's Health: http://www.menshealth.com/best-life/coronary-capitals?cm_mmc=Yahoo_Health-_-The%2010%20Worst%20U.S.%20Cities%20for%20Heart%20Health-_-Slideshow-_-Coronary%20Capitals#ixzz29YpMt8Ap

"Best" as in most likely to successfully die from one?  I think you might be misreading the chart.

Also, they have outdated data regarding flossing to prevent heart attacks:

"Current data don't indicate whether regular brushing and flossing or treatment of gum disease can cut the incidence of atherosclerosis, the narrowing of the arteries that can cause heart attacks and strokes."
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/18/news/la-heb-gum-disease-heart-disease-20120418
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: shadows on November 23, 2012, 01:54:52 PM
In treatment at the wound clinic at OU for unexplainable cat bite infection I ask one of the white coaters why the separation of the skin when exposed to sun light and if they had seen much of it. Their answered was " I haven't seen many patients 92 years old." 


Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: Red Arrow on November 23, 2012, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: shadows on November 23, 2012, 01:54:52 PM
" I haven't seen many patients 92 years old." 

That might have something to do with not too many people living to 92 to be a patient.

Hang in there.  My mom isn't much younger than you are.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: sauerkraut on December 01, 2012, 02:15:20 PM
If more people would put that RiverSide jogging trail to good use, the heart attack rate would be much lower.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: carltonplace on December 03, 2012, 11:24:15 AM
Quote from: sauerkraut on December 01, 2012, 02:15:20 PM
If more people would put that RiverSide jogging trail to good use, the heart attack rate would be much lower.

Yes, this is correct. And put down their cigarettes, and try a salad once in a while.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: sauerkraut on December 05, 2012, 01:07:49 PM
Omaha is #44, I would of thought they would be rated in the top half, Omaha is a very active city with lots of jogging trails and gyms.. I can't see how SF is #1 makes no sense to me..
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: custosnox on December 06, 2012, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on October 18, 2012, 09:48:47 AM
Except in Tulsa we have some of the best trails in the U.S. for walking, biking, or running and no shortage of local events to promote exercise.  It seems like there is a 5K run or a benefit walk virtually every or every other weekend.  For commuting, I agree Tulsa still has a long way to go.

Tulsa and OKC both have better medical facilities and access to those facilities for lower income people than most cities our size around the nation. 

Tulsa and OKC citizens aren't under-served, they under-utilize what is available to them.
The trails and events don't really encourage it as much as every place being pedestrian friendly.  Here it's more like "if you are into that kind of thing, we have great places to go to for it," whereas in other places it's more "it's easier to walk/ride a bike to where we are going," or "I feel like going running, let me go out the front door and start my run."
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: sauerkraut on December 07, 2012, 10:40:15 AM
I heard a while back that OKC was doing alot of trail building - they expaned that loop jogging trail that circles Lake Hefner and built  trails on the banks of rivers & streams. I would guess by now they would of got much of the work done. OKC wanted to build a large  network of jogging/bike trails. Tulsa's trails are always near traffic, or are along side roadways. That Sandsprings trail is nice but there street crossings every half mile or so. When your running you don't want to stop at a street crossing. Fort Worth Texas has a great jogging trail called the "Trinity Trail" no cars and motor traffic nearby  and no street crossings, the miles are neatly marked on the trail, they also installed  "water misters" along the trail for when you run in 100 degree weather. Most of the misting stations are in the Trinity Park section of the trail.
Title: Re: Have a Heart...Attack
Post by: Townsend on December 07, 2012, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: sauerkraut on December 07, 2012, 10:40:15 AM
I heard a while back that OKC was doing alot of trail building - they expaned that loop jogging trail that circles Lake Hefner and built  trails on the banks of rivers & streams. I would guess by now they would of got much of the work done. OKC wanted to build a large  network of jogging/bike trails. Tulsa's trails are always near traffic, or are along side roadways. That Sandsprings trail is nice but there street crossings every half mile or so. When your running you don't want to stop at a street crossing. Fort Worth Texas has a great jogging trail called the "Trinity Trail" no cars and motor traffic nearby  and no street crossings ther miles are neatly marked.

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