Just saw this today...wasn't this a Vision 2025 project?
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=333&articleid=20120820_333_0_TheTul944253
The Tulsa County Industrial Authority deferred any action Monday on its lease with the the Oklahoma Jazz Hall of Fame until Sept. 4 to give the organization time to pay its electric bill.
The Hall of Fame reportedly owes more than $30,000 to American Electric Power-Public Service Company of Oklahoma.
The unpaid utility bills are the latest in a series of run-ins the Jazz Hall of Fame has had with the Industrial Authority over late payments and bounced checks.
Earlier this year, a $3,882 check from the Jazz Hall of Fame to the Industrial Authority to cover half a year of insurance on the Union Depot arrived months late and then bounced.
The Jazz Hall of Fame leases the Union Depot at First Street and Cincinnati Avenue, a facility purchased and refurbished by the county with $4 million in Vision 2025 funds.
Sounds like the financial house is in disarray. TTC made a good point this morning on another thread when he pointed out perhaps the pop and jazz HoF/museums should be combined into one.
Secondly, why do we have a jazz HoF here anyhow when there are other places like New Orleans with a much richer jazz heritage?
And put them under Tulsa Technology Center, because that is apparently where all the money is going.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 20, 2012, 03:10:08 PM
Sounds like the financial house is in disarray. TTC made a good point this morning on another thread when he pointed out perhaps the pop and jazz HoF/museums should be combined into one.
Secondly, why do we have a jazz HoF here anyhow when there are other places like New Orleans with a much richer jazz heritage?
Tulsa's post race riot sent some great Jazz artists north to KC.... among other friendlier territories...
QuoteTulsa's Greenwood District was once a hotbed for jazz and blues, and the site where Count Basie first encountered big-band jazz. From the early 1900s through the 1940s, North Greenwood Avenue in Tulsa, Oklahoma was known as "Black Wall Street." The discriminatory "Jim Crow" laws of the time limited shopping, commercial and land ownership by African-Americans to only the north side of Tulsa. As a result, the African-American community developed a profoundly successful and enviable infrastructure. Prior to 1921, the 36-square-block area known as "Little Africa" encompassed hundreds of businesses and approximately 11,000 people. Among these African-American residents were several PhDs, attorneys, doctors and many others who had earned advanced degrees. There were 21 churches, 212 restaurants, two movie theaters and more than 400 businesses in north Tulsa at that time. The main thoroughfare was Greenwood Avenue, and it was intersected by Archer and Pine Streets. From the first letters in each of those three street names, you get G.A.P. where the renowned Tulsa R&B music group the GAP Band got its name.
When the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 destroyed much of the district, the community rebuilt from the ashes. Today, the Greenwood Historical District showcases its heritage through the Greenwood Cultural Center and the Mabel B. Little Heritage House.
The Oklahoma Jazz Hall of Fame, housed in the historic Tulsa Union Depot, features exhibits devoted to gospel, jazz and blues musicians. The on-site music library holds video, audio and photographic materials about featured artists. Photographs of jazz greats line the walls and an art gallery completes the museum with sculptures depicting musical themes and performers.
http://www.travelok.com/article_page/oklahomas-jazz-and-juke-joint-history
So it appears they received an extension to pay their bill, anyone else hear anything on this? I have a friend getting married here next June and they are concerned about this place going belly up!
I think this is all about the Comishies doing something to show they care about waste and prove to the citizens they are doing their job.
I'm just curious what we don't know about them not doing or seeing.....
Credit to Mr. Lee Roy Chapman :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/facing-eviction-oklahoma-jazz-hall-of-fame-given-final-chance-to-pay-almost-60k-in-bills/2012/09/24/493dffd0-067d-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.htm (http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/facing-eviction-oklahoma-jazz-hall-of-fame-given-final-chance-to-pay-almost-60k-in-bills/2012/09/24/493dffd0-067d-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.htm)l
Anybody have any info on a replacement tenant? I wonder if the comishies will actually rvict the HOF. I just can't understand the preasure without something to replace the current occupant.
I think there might be some hidden agenda. Perhaps, it would be a train station?
Quote from: Teatownclown on September 24, 2012, 06:15:32 PM
Perhaps, it would be a train station?
Nah, going back to the original use is against the game rules of repurposing. ;D
Quote from: ex-riverman on September 24, 2012, 05:33:26 PM
Credit to Mr. Lee Roy Chapman :
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/facing-eviction-oklahoma-jazz-hall-of-fame-given-final-chance-to-pay-almost-60k-in-bills/2012/09/24/493dffd0-067d-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.htm (http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/facing-eviction-oklahoma-jazz-hall-of-fame-given-final-chance-to-pay-almost-60k-in-bills/2012/09/24/493dffd0-067d-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.htm)l
Link dead
Try this:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/facing-eviction-oklahoma-jazz-hall-of-fame-given-final-chance-to-pay-almost-60k-in-bills/2012/09/24/493dffd0-067d-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/facing-eviction-oklahoma-jazz-hall-of-fame-given-final-chance-to-pay-almost-60k-in-bills/2012/09/24/493dffd0-067d-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html)
I would be interested to know how much the person in charge is making or rather paying himself......I had a friend call me about this place and he said that he did an event there, the guy who ran it opened the door, said call me when your done I'll be at Mcnellies....he thought it was very strange...
Their 990 shows they made $140,000 in rental income.
It also shows expenses of $100,000 in rent and utilities and $172,000 in salaries.
Quote from: zstyles on September 25, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
I would be interested to know how much the person in charge is making or rather paying himself......I had a friend call me about this place and he said that he did an event there, the guy who ran it opened the door, said call me when your done I'll be at Mcnellies....he thought it was very strange...
When I did an event at the Tulsa Garden Center, the lady who ran it said "I'll be up in my office." I didn't find it strange at all.
Quote from: nathanm on September 26, 2012, 01:08:18 PM
When I did an event at the Tulsa Garden Center, the lady who ran it said "I'll be up in my office." I didn't find it strange at all.
Last I checked Mcnellies Bar was not any type of office..so in theory I wouldn't find someone saying they will be in their office weird either...
I consider McNellie's a wonderful office. I hold lots of business meetings there. ;D
Quote from: rdj on September 26, 2012, 03:04:22 PM
I consider McNellie's a wonderful office. I hold lots of business meetings there. ;D
And you can drink at the office when you are there.
Quote from: zstyles on September 26, 2012, 02:43:14 PM
Last I checked Mcnellies Bar was not any type of office..so in theory I wouldn't find someone saying they will be in their office weird either...
What difference does it make if they're not supervising in their office or not supervising at McNellie's? I guess next time I should just come out and ask the question.
I consider my boss' office to be the toilet. Maybe you should ask really specifically.
I was talking to an event planner this weekend at a party I was at about the Jazz Hall, she said that she is VERY concerned. She also said that management is the issue it seems, or lack of GOOD management.
She said that the person who takes care of events has been calling her clients asking them to pay 5 months early before the payment is due, offering them 10% off etc..she said after what is going on there is no way she would ever recommend that anyone do that at this point in time that she works with...
No Action Taken On Future Of Tulsa's Jazz Hall Of Famehttp://www.newson6.com/story/19764102/no-action-taken-on-future-of-tulsas-jazz-hall-of-fame?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.newson6.com/story/19764102/no-action-taken-on-future-of-tulsas-jazz-hall-of-fame?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteTULSA, Oklahoma - The Tulsa County Industrial Authority went into executive session to discuss the future of the Oklahoma Jazz Hall of Fame, but took no action.
The board has said the Jazz Hall of Fame, located in the old county owned Union Depot in downtown Tulsa, had defaulted on its lease and was given 30 days to address financial problems.
Those include overdue bills like electricity and taxes.
The Jazz Hall says it paid $32,000 for electric bill Friday, and the remaining balance of $18,000 and is on hand to pay remaining electric bill.
But Public Service Company of Oklahoma says service hasn't been transferred from Tulsa County to Jazz Hall of Fame yet because of Columbus Day holiday.
Jason McIntosh, the hall's chief executive officer, estimated then that nearly 100 donors from across the country came forward to help after learning of the facility's financial troubles.
The 24-year-old nonprofit has struggled to stay afloat after years of bad budgeting decisions and a souring economy.
QuoteThe 24-year-old nonprofit has struggled to stay afloat after years of bad budgeting decisions and a souring economy
FIFY
Quote from: Conan71 on October 08, 2012, 03:09:38 PM
FIFY
BINGO...if someone can't run a company, or can't do the job they are hired to do...are they not most of the time fired?
Quote from: zstyles on October 09, 2012, 09:12:51 AM
BINGO...if someone can't run a company, or can't do the job they are hired to do...are they not most of the time fired?
Unless it's politics.
Anyone heard anything else on this? Seems the story just went quiet, maybe they paid the rest off?
Quote from: zstyles on November 15, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
Anyone heard anything else on this? Seems the story just went quiet, maybe they paid the rest off?
I heard on NPR several weeks ago that they were current on all past due remunerations
There were some news items back in November about the Jazz Hall of Fame being delinquent again and facing possible eviction from Union Station again. The stories said there was a court date set for early December. I cannot find any follow up reporting. I presume the matter was resolved and the Jazz Hall of Fame has not (yet) been evicted?
Does anyone have any info?