Public Universities with terrible graduation rates:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/05/17/11-Public-Universities-with-the-Worst-Graduation-Rates.aspx#page1
I must abstain from this conversation for personal reasons....
Those Universities typically have a high acceptance rate and a high Pell Grant percentage. They gave people a chance. It the students couldn't cut it, so be it. At least they had a chance.
We like to guarantee the opportunity of success but we cannot guarantee success itself. Education is generally money well spent.
When I got drafted and joined the Navy as my choice vs. the government's choice of service, I was guaranteed entry to a school which cost me an extra year of active duty. I did fine but some who didn't have what it took to finish were still on active duty, probably chipping paint or swabbing decks. They were guaranteed and given a chance. That is the best that can be done.
They missed the part about how good we are at football.
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 26, 2012, 06:27:13 PM
Those Universities typically have a high acceptance rate and a high Pell Grant percentage. They gave people a chance. It the students couldn't cut it, so be it. At least they had a chance.
We like to guarantee the opportunity of success but we cannot guarantee success itself. Education is generally money well spent.
Absolutely!!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 27, 2012, 04:22:58 PM
Absolutely!!
Oh geez. Heiron agreed with one of my posts. Now I have to wash my keyboard.
;D
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 27, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Oh geez. Heiron agreed with one of my posts. Now I have to wash my keyboard.
;D
Like it or not, you know deep down inside that I agree with more of your thoughts than you want to admit.
Try Clorox. Or hydrogen peroxide.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 27, 2012, 11:24:08 PM
Like it or not, you know deep down inside that I agree with more of your thoughts than you want to admit.
Try Clorox. Or hydrogen peroxide.
I think I'll go with the hydrogen peroxide.
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 27, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Oh geez. Heiron agreed with one of my posts. Now I have to wash my keyboard.
;D
I had to drive a wooden stake through mine with an "Emilio-style dis-incorporation" (just to make sure it was dead and wouldn't be found). :o
Quote from: guido911 on May 28, 2012, 04:06:38 PM
I had to drive a wooden stake through mine with an "Emilio-style dis-incorporation" (just to make sure it was dead and wouldn't be found). :o
So that's why you were off-line for a while.
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 28, 2012, 08:20:11 PM
So that's why you were off-line for a while.
Then burn it to make sure.
I don't know how they calculate graduation rate. But I may have hurt RSU's numbers. RSU started a branch in Bartlesville awhile back. I took several classes there (after I had already graduated from OSU) for my career. I didn't get a degree, nor was I trying to obtain one. Does that sort of thing hurt their rating? Because I know many people that do this sort of thing all the time. It is almost like a technical school more than a college (at least in Bartlesville it is).
How many people are using these as a stepping stone for a year or two to save money before moving on to another college or university?
Quote from: Conan71 on May 29, 2012, 10:06:07 AM
How many people are using these as a stepping stone for a year or two to save money before moving on to another college or university?
exactly. I will complete about 80 hours at RSU and I will then be moving to OSU Tulsa. They are looking at 4 year degree seeking students who complete within 6 years. RSU has a huge Nurse population, so does that negatively impact their numbers? They also have many older students who may take longer than 6 years to complete their degree.
I was just making a point as to how relevant a metric this really was as far as measuring how good a school is or not.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 29, 2012, 10:06:07 AM
How many people are using these as a stepping stone for a year or two to save money before moving on to another college or university?
Kind of like training wheels for a real education. ;)