over the Yale Apartments at Admiral and Sheridan and how destructive a group home for recovering substance abusers was going to be to the surrounding neighborhoods? Well, I pass by it 5 days a week and also through those neighborhoods and...it is the best looking commercial building in the area which shows none of the predicted decrease in livability and home values. I haven't seen any undesirables walking the area and begging for food. No increased police presence over burglaries and petty crime. In fact I see little change at all.
Just wanted to point that out. White City and its leadership owes people some apologies.
Quote from: AquaMan on May 08, 2012, 07:20:50 PM
over the Yale Apartments at Admiral and Sheridan and how destructive a group home for recovering substance abusers was going to be to the surrounding neighborhoods? Well, I pass by it 5 days a week and also through those neighborhoods and...it is the best looking commercial building in the area which shows none of the predicted decrease in livability and home values. I haven't seen any undesirables walking the area and begging for food. No increased police presence over burglaries and petty crime. In fact I see little change at all.
Just wanted to point that out. White City and its leadership owes people some apologies.
I remember all the hubbub but fail to understand your "White city" reference. Are you saying that all recovering substance abusers are Black?
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 09, 2012, 10:54:34 AM
I remember all the hubbub but fail to understand your "White city" reference. Are you saying that all recovering substance abusers are Black?
White City is the name of the neighborhood to the south of that intersection east of Yale, starting at about 4th street and ending at 11th street. It is so named because of the White City Dairy farm land that it replaced. I'm not sure of its racial make-up but I can understand how you read it that way.
Sorry bout that AuqaMan. There is so much about Tulsa that I don't know. Like area and neighborhood addition names. It read to me like you were talking about the City Council and their part in the decision if any.
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 09, 2012, 12:18:38 PM
Sorry bout that AuqaMan. There is so much about Tulsa that I don't know. Like area and neighborhood addition names. It read to me like you were talking about the City Council and their part in the decision if any.
I used to sell real estate or I too would not have known. Lovely little diverse hood with its own park and pond near its center.
Quote from: AquaMan on May 09, 2012, 12:29:39 PM
I used to sell real estate or I too would not have known. Lovely little diverse hood with its own park and pond near its center.
Used to live there. I believe we heard from a very loud minority.
"Someone say: 'White City'???????"
"Get Je$$e Jack$on on the phone!!!!"
Quote from: Conan71 on May 09, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
"Someone say: 'White City'???????"
"Get Je$$e Jack$on on the phone!!!!"
If I recall right, that was the name of a dairy that used to occupy the property.
It would be handy to have a city map detailing all the neighborhood names.
Ed that would be a cool idea. "I'd buy that for a dollar" :D
Quote from: Ed W on May 09, 2012, 04:33:00 PM
If I recall right, that was the name of a dairy that used to occupy the property.
It would be handy to have a city map detailing all the neighborhood names.
Wondered about "Purdy Mouth Hills" in West Tulsa
"Squiggle" is just north of Admiral and east of Lewis. I live in "Southside". Too bad they aren't adjacent so we could have the Southside Squiggle.
Quote from: Ed W on May 09, 2012, 04:33:00 PM
If I recall right, that was the name of a dairy that used to occupy the property.
It would be handy to have a city map detailing all the neighborhood names.
A friend of mine lives in a Spanish revival house in the neighborhood, reputed to be the White family homestead.
The White City neighborhood is pretty diverse. I lived there most of my life and my wife was the president of the neighborhhod association for over a decade. We moved away before the controversy over the shelter happened.
The founder of Oklahoma Natural Gas was a man named Glenn Braden. He owned a dairy farm in the area and his home is on the corner of 9th and Braden. The park is named after him.
Braden was a generous man and would hire people down on their luck and give them a job. He had a series of barns and a picket fence around the property that he would use the workers to paint over and over. He felt that it was honest work and better than giving them a handout.
The coat after coat of white paint on his barns and fences really stood out and his property became known as White City.
RM,
Is it the house on the SE corner? I lived in Yale Heights/Turner Park for several years. In fact, I believe your parents or in-laws (can't remember which) lived down the street. I used to jog & ride my back around the park/pond and always wondered the origin of the house on the SE corner of 9th & Braden. It doesn't really match much else in the neighborhood.
Yes. That is the house. You can barely see it from the large hedges surrounding it.