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Title: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: dioscorides on April 12, 2012, 09:34:09 AM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-11-2012/bro-choice (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-11-2012/bro-choice)
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: jacobi on April 12, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
It was great!  Even the guy I disagreed with, managed to make the distinction between fertilized egg and knuckle children. She played it deadpan.  Good job to everybody.  Too bad Al didn't come to T-Town.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: patric on April 12, 2012, 12:53:29 PM
Quote from: jacobi on April 12, 2012, 09:36:02 AM
It was great!  Even the guy I disagreed with, managed to make the distinction between fertilized egg and knuckle children. She played it deadpan.  Good job to everybody.  Too bad Al didn't come to T-Town.

With Mike Wallace gone, why would we go anywhere else for our national news?
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Teatownclown on April 20, 2012, 04:46:59 PM
I'm disappointed the intelligentsia on this forum has ignored this thread. Kudos for posting it.


http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=16&articleid=20120420_16_A1_OKLAHO386739


just wait until after November. People should be afraid of these guys but instead fear Potus Obama....go figure.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: patric on April 20, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
If this one doesnt pass, they will just introduce another where the doctor is required to do an ultrasound and say "Oh, he has your eyes..."
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Hoss on April 20, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: patric on April 20, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
If this one doesnt pass, they will just introduce another where the doctor is required to do an ultrasound and say "Oh, he has your eyes..."

One news report today said a group already intends to.

Oklahoma.  A special kind of stoopid....
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 22, 2012, 11:08:04 PM
Quote from: dioscorides on April 12, 2012, 09:34:09 AM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-11-2012/bro-choice (http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-11-2012/bro-choice)

Just got around to this thread and that video!  (I've been 'busy'...)


That is hilarious!  Thanks for posting it!

Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Townsend on April 23, 2012, 10:10:54 AM
Quote from: Hoss on April 20, 2012, 08:54:27 PM
One news report today said a group already intends to.

Oklahoma.  A special kind of stoopid....

I think the other group is working on signatures to place it on the ballot in November.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: dioscorides on April 26, 2012, 05:05:11 PM
i don't know how close you all have been following the 'personhood bill'.  i have been keeping up with it because it scares the hell out of me.  anyway, yesterday, rep. mike reynolds tried to get the bill reintroduced.  he was told that it couldn't be reintroduced because he didn't follow procedure.  soooo, today, he tried again.  this time when he was told, "no", he started yelling and was removed from the floor.  i really don't have a point here.  i just thought it was funny.

oh yeah, i'm also happy that our house leaders did not let this through.  i know that the petition is still out there, though.  this personhood thing, in my humble opinion, is like opening pandora's box.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: cannon_fodder on April 26, 2012, 07:06:11 PM
Well, at least now they are having to be honest.  They promoted it before saying it was a statement of the (religious) beliefs and support of life in Oklahoma hit wouldn't have any real effect.  Now they are saying it will end abortion, murder, and corporate testing on fetuses (for sweeteners?).  In their hour of desperation they turn to honesty...

Please keep your religious beliefs to yourself.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: MrsConan on May 01, 2012, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: dioscorides on April 26, 2012, 05:05:11 PM
i don't know how close you all have been following the 'personhood bill'.  i have been keeping up with it because it scares the hell out of me.  anyway, yesterday, rep. mike reynolds tried to get the bill reintroduced.  he was told that it couldn't be reintroduced because he didn't follow procedure.  soooo, today, he tried again.  this time when he was told, "no", he started yelling and was removed from the floor.  i really don't have a point here.  i just thought it was funny.

oh yeah, i'm also happy that our house leaders did not let this through.  i know that the petition is still out there, though.  this personhood thing, in my humble opinion, is like opening pandora's box.

Ah, so that's who lost it and had to be escorted out.  I heard rumors......

On another note, I'm glad this didn't pass either.  Just another politician looking for something to hang his reputation on who didn't bother to think before he acted.  I'm ready to elect some folks into office who give a damn about what's good for the people, not what's good for them.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: nathanm on May 01, 2012, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: MrsConan on May 01, 2012, 01:29:52 PM
I'm ready to elect some folks into office who give a damn about what's good for the people, not what's good for them.

A nice thought, but mathematically improbable given our current election system.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
I figure if all we are down to is open carry laws and personhood bills, we may as well just shut down the legislature for the year since there's obviously nothing important nor worthwhile on their plate.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Gaspar on May 01, 2012, 03:50:43 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on May 01, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
I figure if all we are down to is open carry laws and personhood bills, we may as well just shut down the legislature for the year since there's obviously nothing important nor worthwhile on their plate.

I'm just glad the personhood garbage didn't' pass.  Can you imagine the paperwork necessary to grant rights all that trouser protein.

I mean, just coming up with names would be like impossible!
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: jacobi on May 01, 2012, 04:37:07 PM
Trouser protien?  +1
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Teatownclown on May 01, 2012, 06:30:45 PM


They don't like women....

And why aren't Tony Laughinger and his ilk out there protesting the death penalty?

Moral crusaders are ruining this country!
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Conan71 on May 02, 2012, 12:15:29 AM
Quote from: Teatownclown on May 01, 2012, 06:30:45 PM


They don't like women....

And why aren't Tony Laughinger and his ilk out there protesting the death penalty?

Moral crusaders are ruining this country!

And how can a "staunch" fiscal conservative believe in it considering 15 years of Death Row incarceration and appeals costs about the same as 50 years in the general population?

Factual accuracy though- I believe if you ask Lauinger, he's against the death penalty, most of the rabid anti-abortion Catlicks are.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Teatownclown on May 02, 2012, 11:48:23 PM
Moral Righteous self interest crusaders are ruining this country!

Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Gaspar on May 03, 2012, 07:45:15 AM
Quote from: Teatownclown on May 02, 2012, 11:48:23 PM
Moral Righteous self interest crusaders are ruining this country!



Just because they are wearing ties does not mean they are ruling this country.

Last time I checked. . .

Forward.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: TheArtist on May 03, 2012, 07:48:32 AM
They had the video on CNN news online.  The comments afterwards were often even worse.  It's troubling to say the least. :(
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Townsend on May 03, 2012, 10:29:13 AM
Quote from: Gaspar on May 03, 2012, 07:45:15 AM
Just because they are wearing ties does not mean they are ruling this country.


Head of a church.  That means they lead places like NC, OK, MS, AL, etc.

Very disturbing.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: jacobi on May 03, 2012, 12:27:01 PM
QuoteJust because they are wearing ties does not mean they are ruling this country.

I believe what he said was...

QuoteMoral Righteous self interest crusaders are ruining this country!

One does not need to rule to ruin.  Hey look at Carthage!

That said, who said men dig ditches?  Gender norms are not exactly fixed.  This guy clearly needs some valium and maybe a copy of The Second Sex or The Feminine Mystique.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 03, 2012, 02:37:45 PM
Or have his lobotomy reversed...
Oh, wait...

Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: nathanm on May 03, 2012, 03:22:47 PM
I wonder if he knows that child abuse is the primary cause of criminality later in life? Would that these religious clucks come out against abusing children, but that would be too rational.
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Conan71 on May 03, 2012, 11:41:46 PM
Quote from: nathanm on May 03, 2012, 03:22:47 PM
I wonder if he knows that child abuse is the primary cause of criminality later in life? Would that these religious clucks come out against abusing children, but that would be too rational.

That or they turn into Westies.


(http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll300/LucidFlight_album/westboro_baptist.jpg)
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Townsend on October 29, 2012, 12:58:59 PM
U.S. Supreme Court Rejects Oklahoma Personhood Proposal

http://www.newson6.com/story/19944103/us-supreme-court (http://www.newson6.com/story/19944103/us-supreme-court)

QuoteWASHINGTON, D.C - The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld an Oklahoma Supreme Court ruling that a proposed "personhood" constitutional amendment would be an unconstitutional ban on abortion.
The court on Monday rejected the appeal without comment.

Mathew Staver of the Florida-based Liberty Counsel -- which filed the appeal on behalf of Personhood Oklahoma -- says supporters may try again to get it on the ballot.

The proposal would grant fertilized human embryos the rights and privileges of citizens in Oklahoma. Supporters say it's part of an effort to have the U.S. Supreme Court review a ruling that legalized abortion.

4/30/2012 Related Story: Oklahoma 'Personhood' Bill Ends In Defeat For Tulsa Supporters

It was challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union and the New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights on behalf of several Oklahoma doctors and residents.

The state Supreme Court called the measure "clearly unconstitutional."

OK, so it's "clearly unconstitutional".  Maybe we've finally heard the last of this from these folks.  I'm almost sure of it...
Title: Re: The Daily Show takes on the Oklahoma Personhood Bill
Post by: Teatownclown on October 29, 2012, 01:07:57 PM
Loveofmud:"Using the same logic, the eggs I ate for breakfast could land me charges of animal abuse. Come get me, PETA, It aint a chicken till it hatches folks!"