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Title: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: tulsa_fan on April 05, 2012, 09:08:00 AM
Saw this, haven't been to one in Houston, but also at the end of the article it mentions KEO is also opening a location in the same shopping center.  I'm happy about both these options. 

Russo's Coal-Fired Italian Kitchen to open Tulsa site in 2013


Russo's Coal-Fired Italian Kitchen will be built northeast of 91st Street and Yale Avenue. Courtesy By KYLE ARNOLD World Staff Writer
Published: 4/5/2012  2:37 AM
Last Modified: 4/5/2012  3:04 AM

A "hot" new Italian-restaurant concept from Houston is headed to Tulsa.

Russo's Coal-Fired Italian Kitchen will start construction soon on a location northeast of the 91st Street and Yale Avenue intersection.

The concept is a version of the Houston-based Russo's New York Pizzeria restaurant, an eatery started in 1978 that has since grown to 28 locations, mostly in Texas.

But there are only five locations for the Russo's Coal-Fired Italian Kitchen, which was started in 2008, and they're all in Texas.

"It's really a New-York Style pizzeria, and we have great Italian entrees," said founder Anthony Russo.

Russo said Russo's Coal-Fired Italian Kitchen is a casual-dining restaurant, serving dishes from Italy such as gnocchi Bolognese, chicken picatta and pasta di mare.

The restaurant will also feature the family's signature pizzas, cooked in a coal-fired oven that gives the crust a crispness and flavor that can't be achieved in traditional ovens, Russo said.

"We use all fresh ingredients, and everything is hand-crafted," he said. "And we import many of our ingredients from Italy, like the olive oil."

During the day, the restaurant will follow a fast, casual counter-service format and switch to table service in the evenings.

Russo said that is a format he has followed since he opened his first pizzeria as a 17-year-old in Houston.

The restaurant will have an open kitchen and use rustic colors to emulate an Italian feel, he said.

At 3,500 square feet, it will be in a stand-alone building at the Tuscana on Yale shopping center. Russo's is expected to open in early spring 2013.

The Tulsa restaurant is part of a growth plan by franchisee Richard Martinez, a partner in the Russo's Coal-Fired restaurant who is planning to open eight additional restaurants in the region, Russo said. The company expects to announce more Oklahoma locations in the coming months.

The new restaurant will be a convenient fit for the Tuscana on Yale development, a high-end shopping center that will include about 33,000 square feet of retail and office space and cost between $9 and $10 million.

The center will also be home to Keo Asian Cuisine, now operating in Brookside, and Whole Foods is building a grocery on the southwest corner of the intersection, also expected in 2013.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=53&articleid=20120405_53_E1_CUTLIN30775
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 09:56:05 AM
Yum!  That's across the street from me!
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Teatownclown on April 05, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
Too close for comfort.... definitely not hand made quality comfort food. Corporate gruel?

Come on south Teatown....
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
Is that clean coal technology they are using? 
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: TheArtist on April 05, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
  I wonder what is going to go along with the Whole Foods on that SW corner?  Would hate to see that entire site taken up with just that.  Could evolve into a nice area if there is enough put into it. 
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Teatownclown on April 05, 2012, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 11:29:39 AM
Is that clean coal technology they are using? 

No such thing....
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on April 05, 2012, 11:32:35 AM
  I wonder what is going to go along with the Whole Foods on that SW corner?  Would hate to see that entire site taken up with just that.  Could evolve into a nice area if there is enough put into it. 

I'm sure there is some other retail, but this will be the Whole Foods standard layout, which is far larger than the store on 41st, and offers additional services.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
I'm sure there is some other retail, but this will be the Whole Foods standard layout, which is far larger than the store on 41st, and offers additional services.

Have you been to the OKC store?  I like their purpose-built layout a lot.  I do appreciate the adaptation at 41st, but it's a bit disjointed and crowded.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: rdj on April 05, 2012, 01:58:52 PM
Here is the website for the development.

http://www.tuscanaonyale.com/shopping-center-tulsa-ok.asp
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 01:04:37 PM
Have you been to the OKC store?  I like their purpose-built layout a lot.  I do appreciate the adaptation at 41st, but it's a bit disjointed and crowded.

Crowded is an understatement.   
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 02:09:55 PM
Quote from: rdj on April 05, 2012, 01:58:52 PM
Here is the website for the development.

http://www.tuscanaonyale.com/shopping-center-tulsa-ok.asp

That is without a doubt the best rendering I have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Whole Foods is not in that center though, it's on the SW corner.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Teatownclown on April 05, 2012, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 01:04:37 PM
Have you been to the OKC store?  I like their purpose-built layout a lot.  I do appreciate the adaptation at 41st, but it's a bit disjointed and crowded.

Disjointed works in Tulsa..... ;)
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: rdj on April 05, 2012, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 02:09:55 PM
That is without a doubt the best rendering I have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Whole Foods is not in that center though, it's on the SW corner.

I know.  That is where KEO & the Italian concept mentioned in the opening post will go.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on April 05, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: rdj on April 05, 2012, 02:24:10 PM
I know.  That is where KEO & the Italian concept mentioned in the opening post will go.

Didn't realize that KEO was going in there. 
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: jacobi on April 05, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
Why are developers conviced that phoney-baloney tuscan "style" somehow means upscale?  Back in the 90's it was to spell the word 'shops' as 'shoppes'.  "Oh, I'll gladly drop additional money for something as small as a spelling choice." 

I don't mean to troll, It just looks alot like any other suburban development in the last 5-10 years.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
Quote from: jacobi on April 05, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
Why are developers conviced that phoney-baloney tuscan "style" somehow means upscale?  Back in the 90's it was to spell the word 'shops' as 'shoppes'.  "Oh, I'll gladly drop additional money for something as small as a spelling choice." 

I don't mean to troll, It just looks alot like any other suburban development in the last 5-10 years.

I was just getting ready to unload on that as well.  More Tuscan dreck?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: DTowner on April 05, 2012, 03:42:59 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
I was just getting ready to unload on that as well.  More Tuscan dreck?

Maybe they can call it "The Shoppes at Dryvit"
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on April 05, 2012, 03:44:25 PM
Quote from: DTowner on April 05, 2012, 03:42:59 PM
Maybe they can call it "The Shoppes at Dryvit"


You owe me a new Mac...

That's some funny smile right there.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: dsjeffries on April 05, 2012, 04:16:48 PM
Went to check out the Tuscana's website, scrolled down and saw one of MY photos of downtown. "Oh, they did NOT just steal another of my downtown photos!!!" Oh wait, they did. Cease and desist letter being crafted right now. Dang it.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 10, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
Keo signage is up.

The SW corner of the intersection has two structures up so far.

Doesn't take much to make a difference out here in Southy.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 10, 2012, 01:17:28 PM
I can't wait for them to knock down the development on the Southeast side of that intersection and put something more appealing there too!  That intersection is gold demographically!
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: davideinstein on December 10, 2012, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on December 10, 2012, 01:17:28 PM
I can't wait for them to knock down the development on the Southeast side of that intersection and put something more appealing there too!  That intersection is gold demographically!

No kidding. We considered moving a store at the old Papa John's location but couldn't justify it so we signed up for the Whole Foods development. The last I heard we are looking at late next summer to open up there.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 11, 2012, 07:24:17 AM
Quote from: davideinstein on December 10, 2012, 07:42:34 PM
No kidding. We considered moving a store at the old Papa John's location but couldn't justify it so we signed up for the Whole Foods development. The last I heard we are looking at late next summer to open up there.

There is absolutely no visibility at that Papa Johns location.  It would have been like putting your business down in a hole.  The building is also in poor repare.  You will do extremely well in the Whole Foods development.  Subway has done well across the street and you offer a superior product at about the same price point.

When you run a demographic analysis of that corner, it's the perfect storm.  Middle income condos and apartments to the West, public schools immediately to the West and South, a beautiful blend of $160k-$2million single family all around, and the intersection is the primary feeding artery to the immediate North and to the turnpike.  The lease must be astronomical, but well worth it!

Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: sgrizzle on December 11, 2012, 01:48:12 PM
My bank is at that intersection, and I've used that library... main reasons I go there.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 11, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on December 11, 2012, 01:48:12 PM
My bank is at that intersection, and I've used that library... main reasons I go there.

Do you catch the Creek Turnpike there?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 11, 2012, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on December 11, 2012, 01:48:12 PM
My bank is at that intersection, and I've used that library... main reasons I go there.

The intersection is out of the way for me most of the time.  I go there for a specific reason or I don't go.  If I'm heading North, I take Riverside or 75, West - the Creek.  I get my hair cut there and my wife loves a shop called A Perfect Touch.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: tulsa_fan on December 11, 2012, 03:05:59 PM
it looked like Sam and Ella's was open when i drove by yesterday?  If not, it's petty close.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: sgrizzle on December 12, 2012, 06:41:45 AM
Quote from: Gaspar on December 11, 2012, 01:50:20 PM
Do you catch the Creek Turnpike there?

Nah
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 08:19:18 AM
The most current DOT 24 hr. traffic count for that intersection (measured just south of 81st in 2008, meeter 919) is 25,676 vehicles a day, 12,000 more than Cherry Street at Peoria, and slightly more than the metered amount just East of the Utica Square area (25,547).

Three years earlier 91st and Yale was measured at 19,299, so it's probably closer to 30,000 now. 

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/aadtcnt/map.aspx?map=Tulsa%20%20County/Tulsa%202&year=2011#counts

It's a numbers game, and the numbers look extremely good for any business that locates at that intersection with good visibility.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 12, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 08:19:18 AM

It's a numbers game, and the numbers look extremely good for any business that locates at that intersection with good visibility.

I'm not 100% on this but I think I've seen steps taken beginning the process of widening Yale between 81st and 91st on the hill.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on December 12, 2012, 09:49:59 AM
That has been the plan for a long time.  It's needed.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 12, 2012, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Townsend on December 12, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
I'm not 100% on this but I think I've seen steps taken beginning the process of widening Yale between 81st and 91st on the hill.

How recently?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 12, 2012, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on December 12, 2012, 09:49:59 AM
That has been the plan for a long time.  It's needed.

"They" need to get rid of those nasty 30 MPH speed limit signs.  That hill was fun years ago when you could go faster.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 11:31:09 AM
Quote from: Townsend on December 12, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
I'm not 100% on this but I think I've seen steps taken beginning the process of widening Yale between 81st and 91st on the hill.

I believe they have moved the phone poles, but that's about it.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 12, 2012, 12:10:26 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 12, 2012, 10:56:09 AM
How recently?

Over the last year.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Teatownclown on December 12, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 12, 2012, 10:58:31 AM
"They" need to get rid of those nasty 30 MPH speed limit signs.  That hill was fun years ago when you could go faster.

81st from Harvard to Mingo was the boss amusement car ride in the 50's and 60's...before traffic and stop signs and seat belts. We'd get onto the floor of the car and the driver would go 90ish and man, was that a ride!

You don't think 4 lanes on 91st from Memorial to Harvard might be the priority here? Guess not, Yale corridor becomes huge when they get the toll road done at 121st crossing the river. Besides, the 5013c at 61st usually get what they want without subsidizing any streets (or entrance/exits or their neighbor's children education)....

Sam and Ella's looks way small to me.

Any more lease signings besides Pappa John's and Yokazuma and Keo's?

Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: sgrizzle on December 12, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
Quote from: Townsend on December 12, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
I'm not 100% on this but I think I've seen steps taken beginning the process of widening Yale between 81st and 91st on the hill.

They were doing some drilling recently to analyze the soil under the roadway, but I don't think that was for widening.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 12, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on December 12, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
They were doing some drilling recently to analyze the soil under the roadway, but I don't think that was for widening.

Hydraulic fracturing?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on December 12, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
They were doing some drilling recently to analyze the soil under the roadway, but I don't think that was for widening.

That hill moves a lot.  Apparently their is a big vein of soft clay that runs along that ridge.  Ask anyone who bought a house on signal hill.  :P

All of those houses on the top of the hill are working very hard to reach the bottom of the hill.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on December 12, 2012, 02:55:43 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
That hill moves a lot.  Apparently their is a big vein of soft clay that runs along that ridge.  Ask anyone who bought a house on signal hill.  :P

All of those houses on the top of the hill are working very hard to reach the bottom of the hill.

I grew up in a house near 85th & Toledo.  I'm surprised any of the houses on that street are still on Toledo rather than Sandusky or Richmond now.  As I understand it's worse to the east up in that 'hood.  How's soil movement in the flats near your house?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on December 12, 2012, 02:55:43 PM
I grew up in a house near 85th & Toledo.  I'm surprised any of the houses on that street are still on Toledo rather than Sandusky or Richmond now.  As I understand it's worse to the east up in that 'hood.  How's soil movement in the flats near your house?

Nowhere to slide to. :D

Before we moved, my wife fell in love with a house up there.  I took her out on one of the outside balconies and said "look at that beautiful valley below, that's where this house wants to be!"  Every one of those has had piers drilled.

Up on the street you used to live on, one of the houses had its driveway completely detach from the house.  They were driving over 2x4s for a while to keep the tires from falling in the crack.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 12, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
That hill moves a lot.  Apparently their is a big vein of soft clay that runs along that ridge.  Ask anyone who bought a house on signal hill.  :P

All of those houses on the top of the hill are working very hard to reach the bottom of the hill.

They must have been built by constructions companies from California in the mudslide areas.   :D
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 12, 2012, 06:20:25 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on December 12, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
Every one of those has had piers drilled.

It sounds like eventually they will all be on piers with no dirt.  That is done intentionally on the NC Outer Banks and I believe in the bayous in Louisiana.  It can be a new style in Tulsa.  Probably worth thousands of dollars extra if you are 1st on your block.

Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: tulsa_fan on December 13, 2012, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Teatownclown on December 12, 2012, 12:21:59 PM

Any more lease signings besides Pappa John's and Yokazuma and Keo's?



Pretty sure I saw what was a Nail Salon signage at on the Keo corner  :)  I knew you guys will be thrilled, I'm sure a AT&T or Verizon is coming next!
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 14, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
There is some thought about widening Yale hill.

Quote1. Yale Avenue from 81st to 91st streets.

Although widening projects typically are expensive, this one is in a category all of its own. It is projected to cost $30 million.

This two-lane street, which wraps around Signal Hill, is targeted to be six-laned.

Because of the need for more right of way for the project, it is expected that some homes along the street may need to be bought by the city.

"We are going to have to bite the bullet and do this," Engineering Services Department Director Paul Zachary said, adding that it will complete the widening of Yale Avenue from the Creek Turnpike all the way north to Interstate 44.

"Right now, if you look up from the Creek in the morning, you see cars stacking up because of this bottleneck."

Another problem with this stretch of road is that it's slowly sliding off the hill because of erosion, Zachary said. Deep cracks can be seen alongside the street, and telephone poles lean westward.

From savings in the first Fix Our Streets effort, the city is planning to fund measures including retaining walls and piers to stop the slide.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20121214_11_A1_CUTLIN40572&r=6722
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 14, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Quote"Right now, if you look up from the Creek in the morning, you see cars stacking up because of this bottleneck."

That is shockingly untrue.

6 lanes though?  Holy cats, I have some friends in those neighborhoods who will be displeased.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: sgrizzle on December 14, 2012, 01:17:50 PM
Quote
Four of the widening projects on the list, including the top three, are in Councilor Phil Lakin's District 8.

"Addressing this was a major part of my campaign platform (when running for office in 2011)," he said.

"It's a quality-of life issue, it's an economic development issue, and it's a public safety issue."

You know I would've run his campaign for far less than he paid Karl Ahlgren to just copy mine....

;D
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: sgrizzle on December 14, 2012, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Townsend on December 14, 2012, 01:13:19 PM


That is shockingly untrue.

6 lanes though?  Holy cats, I have some friends in those neighborhoods who will be displeased.

Not surprising since it is 6 lanes north of 81st and south of 91st.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 14, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: Townsend on December 14, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
6 lanes though?  Holy cats, I have some friends in those neighborhoods who will be displeased.

Might as well go for 6 lanes now as do 4 and need to do it again in 5 or so years.  I wish Memorial was still horse and cow pastures but I didn't get any say in the matter.  With all the crap development south of the turnpike, more than 4 lanes were needed.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on December 14, 2012, 01:22:30 PM
The good thing is that because the road is elevated above the neighborhoods, sound won't be an issue.  It's when you build a road (The Creek) in a valley that you get the "loudspeaker effect" that amplifies the noise.  

I wonder if there is a wall planned though?

Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on December 14, 2012, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on December 14, 2012, 01:21:31 PM
Might as well go for 6 lanes now as do 4 and need to do it again in 5 or so years.

No need for 4 lanes now.  A turn lane?  Maybe.

If the road is sliding off the hill now, I guess a tunnel would be kinda cool.  We need more tunnels.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Red Arrow on December 14, 2012, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: Townsend on December 14, 2012, 01:29:31 PM
No need for 4 lanes now.  A turn lane?  Maybe.

If the road is sliding off the hill now, I guess a tunnel would be kinda cool.  We need more tunnels.

A tunnel would be cool since it would remove the grade issue for a real (steel wheels on steel tracks) trolley to run up Yale from 121st or even across the river.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on December 15, 2012, 10:41:40 AM
This has been on the table for 8-10 years.  A friend of mine works for what used to be known as the Benham Group.  He was on the team that did the engineering studies and original drafts of the plan some time back.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on January 09, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
Keo opens Monday per TW.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on March 08, 2013, 03:06:47 PM
Sign for a CVS "coming soon" on the SW Corner.

Not exciting but that's more than I knew yesterday.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Teatownclown on March 08, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
Quote from: Townsend on March 08, 2013, 03:06:47 PM
Sign for a CVS "coming soon" on the SW Corner.

Not exciting but that's more than I knew yesterday.

We covered that months ago.

That avatar of yours is distracting....
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on March 08, 2013, 03:39:07 PM
Quote from: Teatownclown on March 08, 2013, 03:32:07 PM
We covered that months ago.

Yeah, couldn't remember.  What else is going in?  Got a refresher?

QuoteThat avatar of yours is distracting....

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: davideinstein on March 08, 2013, 04:40:13 PM
Late July.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on March 08, 2013, 04:41:52 PM
Quote from: davideinstein on March 08, 2013, 04:40:13 PM
Late July.

Where, in the development, will your shop be?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Townsend on July 26, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
The concrete crews came through and did a wonderful job on the business entrances on the South side of 101st and Yale and a nice job on the drainage canals.  I was really impressed.

Then the asphalt crew came through and jacked it all to Hell.  Wow, they did a horrible job.  They didn't smooth the asphalt at all going into the businesses and now when those folks are leaving it's a big bump to get out.

That was a lot of money to spend for a half-assed job from a contractor.

Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Ibanez on July 26, 2013, 08:48:15 AM
Quote from: Townsend on July 26, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
The concrete crews came through and did a wonderful job on the business entrances on the South side of 101st and Yale and a nice job on the drainage canals.  I was really impressed.

Then the asphalt crew came through and jacked it all to Hell.  Wow, they did a horrible job.  They didn't smooth the asphalt at all going into the businesses and now when those folks are leaving it's a big bump to get out.

That was a lot of money to spend for a half-assed job from a contractor someone's brother in law.



Corrected....
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on July 26, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Townsend on July 26, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
The concrete crews came through and did a wonderful job on the business entrances on the South side of 101st and Yale and a nice job on the drainage canals.  I was really impressed.

Then the asphalt crew came through and jacked it all to Hell.  Wow, they did a horrible job.  They didn't smooth the asphalt at all going into the businesses and now when those folks are leaving it's a big bump to get out.

That was a lot of money to spend for a half-assed job from a contractor.



Becco?  Sounds like their work. 

Last summer they came through Elwood between I-44 and W. 41st St. and dug out random patches of asphalt down to the substrate.  I'm assuming they were fixing sunken areas of asphalt from all the semi traffic.  Now we have a bunch of sunken patches all down the road so I can enjoy "kerthunk, kerthunk, kerthunk..." every day since they could not be troubled to flush in the final asphalt layer.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Hoss on July 26, 2013, 11:54:10 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 26, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Becco?  Sounds like their work. 

Last summer they came through Elwood between I-44 and W. 41st St. and dug out random patches of asphalt down to the substrate.  I'm assuming they were fixing sunken areas of asphalt from all the semi traffic.  Now we have a bunch of sunken patches all down the road so I can enjoy "kerthunk, kerthunk, kerthunk..." every day since they could not be troubled to flush in the final asphalt layer.

I wonder.  Is Becco the same contractor who did the 169 resurfacing project?  You know?  The one that makes 169 feel like driving on runway 36R out at TIA?
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Gaspar on July 26, 2013, 01:44:05 PM
Quote from: Townsend on July 26, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
The concrete crews came through and did a wonderful job on the business entrances on the South side of 101st and Yale and a nice job on the drainage canals.  I was really impressed.

Then the asphalt crew came through and jacked it all to Hell.  Wow, they did a horrible job.  They didn't smooth the asphalt at all going into the businesses and now when those folks are leaving it's a big bump to get out.

That was a lot of money to spend for a half-assed job from a contractor.



;)  Perhaps they anticipate the asphalt and substrate to settle? 
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on July 26, 2013, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on July 26, 2013, 01:44:05 PM
;)  Perhaps they anticipate the asphalt and substrate to settle? 


Maybe so, but Becco is still half-assed....
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Conan71 on July 26, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Quote from: Hoss on July 26, 2013, 11:54:10 AM
I wonder.  Is Becco the same contractor who did the 169 resurfacing project?  You know?  The one that makes 169 feel like driving on runway 36R out at TIA?

Would not surprise me. I avoid 169 at all cost.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Hoss on July 26, 2013, 05:24:08 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on July 26, 2013, 03:30:20 PM
Would not surprise me. I avoid 169 at all cost.

I used to not really be able to.  That is until I started working at 15th and Sheridan.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: tulsa_fan on July 30, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
CVS Pharmacy opened over the weekend.  I also saw a sign for Smashburger.  Not sure of what else is going in there, but they are moving fast to get the spots filled and open
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: rdj on July 30, 2013, 12:13:25 PM
McNellie's group takes over their space in about 30-45 days to begin build out of Yokozuna.  Open few months after that.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: joiei on October 28, 2013, 11:31:13 PM
Whole Foods got a Jimmie Johns as a neighbor.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 29, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
Quote from: tulsa_fan on July 30, 2013, 11:24:02 AM
CVS Pharmacy opened over the weekend.  I also saw a sign for Smashburger.  Not sure of what else is going in there, but they are moving fast to get the spots filled and open


Was in Moore OK a couple days ago and had the opportunity to eat at the new Smashburger there... blech!!  Will never bother with that again.

Strange how a little distance can make a big difference - the one in Wichita is pretty decent. 


Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: sgrizzle on October 29, 2013, 03:05:15 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 29, 2013, 02:50:59 PM
the one in Wichita is pretty decent. 

I think your memory might be flawed.
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: Vision 2025 on October 30, 2013, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 29, 2013, 03:05:15 PM
I think your memory might be flawed.
I was the same way untill I ordered a burger at SB with "no salt" which was pretty darn good...
Title: Re: 91 & Yale Development
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 30, 2013, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on October 29, 2013, 03:05:15 PM
I think your memory might be flawed.

Always possible, but this time, I think it is ok.  Not sure why there would be a difference, but it wasn't burnt up there.  And the fries were better...but I got the regular instead of the smashed.  Rosemary just doesn't belong on a french fry.  Other potato cooking methods, yes.  But not that one.