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Title: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on January 27, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
So the old house at 1813 S Boston Ave is finally leveled...

Almost all of the parcels on the SE corner of 18th and boston (pink, the caterer, the lots behind and the old house) were purchased by SOBO Development LLC in July,2011.
They now look like they may actually be starting to do something.

Interestingly enough, the old Pourhouse at 118 e 18th st does not appear to have been included in the sale. County Assessor still shows Security Bank holds the note. That could be a glitch because 911,000 for the corner without including Pourhouse seems kind of high.

I've heard a lot of rumors.
Anyone have any idea whats going on?
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 08:44:29 AM
Quote from: brunoflipper on January 27, 2012, 08:00:07 AM
So the old house at 1813 S Boston Ave is finally leveled...

Almost all of the parcels on the SE corner of 18th and boston (pink, the caterer, the lots behind and the old house) were purchased by SOBO Development LLC in July,2011.
They now look like they may actually be starting to do something.

Interestingly enough, the old Pourhouse at 118 e 18th st does not appear to have been included in the sale. County Assessor still shows Security Bank holds the note. That could be a glitch because 911,000 for the corner without including Pourhouse seems kind of high.

I've heard a lot of rumors.
Anyone have any idea whats going on?


Is the house behind the fire house to the south, Bruno?
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: Teatownclown on January 27, 2012, 09:04:47 AM
Call Coury?
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on January 27, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
it would appear to be Steve Dodson doing it without Coury
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on January 27, 2012, 09:10:06 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 08:44:29 AM
Is the house behind the fire house to the south, Bruno?
Si
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: jacobi on January 27, 2012, 09:28:33 AM
I'm really curious about this.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: rdj on January 27, 2012, 09:33:29 AM
That last I heard residential was planned on some of that land,  but its been quote a while since I've heard anything.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: AquaMan on January 27, 2012, 09:34:03 AM
The owner of the Pourhouse building was selling the building separate from the land. The sign is down so maybe the building will be soon as well.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: rdj on January 27, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: AquaMan on January 27, 2012, 09:34:03 AM
The owner of the Pourhouse building was selling the building separate from the land. The sign is down so maybe the building will be soon as well.

Do you mean the parking to the east or west of the building?  They don't own the parking to the west.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: AquaMan on January 27, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
The building that used to be The Brick. Its for sale sign hung on the outside wall said, "building only". Not sure how that would work but the building is structurally a mess.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: SXSW on January 27, 2012, 10:14:21 AM
That house was an eyesore, glad to see it come down if it wasn't going to be renovated.  Sobo has a lot of potential and is an interesting mix of old buildings with a mix of bars, restaurants, dry cleaners, a convenience store and coffee shop.  I see that whole area as pretty desirable for urban residential development being adjacent to Maple Ridge and close to the river and downtown.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on January 27, 2012, 10:57:34 AM
Quote from: SXSW on January 27, 2012, 10:14:21 AM
That house was an eyesore, glad to see it come down if it wasn't going to be renovated.  Sobo has a lot of potential and is an interesting mix of old buildings with a mix of bars, restaurants, dry cleaners, a convenience store and coffee shop.  I see that whole area as pretty desirable for urban residential development being adjacent to Maple Ridge and close to the river and downtown.

As a maple ridge resident and 18th/boston business owner i could not agree more...
Word is it'll be mixed use...
We will see...
That weasely pfox prolly knows something but he aint talking... At least not to me.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: Conan71 on January 27, 2012, 11:11:48 AM
Quote from: brunoflipper on January 27, 2012, 10:57:34 AM
As a maple ridge resident and 18th/boston business owner i could not agree more...
Word is it'll be mixed use...
We will see...
That weasely pfox prolly knows something but he aint talking... At least not to me.

Which business do you own down there, Bruno?
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: jacobi on January 27, 2012, 11:17:07 AM
I used to live at 19th and cincinnati.  The apt. wasn't great, but it was the best location in which I have ever lived.  If I had a job downtown it's where I would live again.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: pfox on January 27, 2012, 12:25:28 PM
I like to consider myself more foxy than weasely.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: tulsa1603 on January 27, 2012, 06:06:15 PM
Quote from: rdj on January 27, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
Do you mean the parking to the east or west of the building?  They don't own the parking to the west.

That building has NO parking.  I did some feasibility and concept work for a potential project in it - the building is a complete mess inside, so making it functional would be difficult.  Lots of floor elevation changes, the entire upstairs floor structure is basically gone.  And the eastern 10' (single story portion) is actually built OVER the property line.  That parking lot to the east is actually owned/maintained by the parks department as part of the adjacent trail, if I recall correctly.

All previous plans that I have seen for that building involved sharing parking or leasing parking from the lot across the street to the north and around the Pink building, and the lot on the SW corner of 18th and Boston.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: DowntownDan on January 27, 2012, 06:28:13 PM
Is Pink still popular?  That place seems aweful from everything I've seen when I lived closer to it and from my times at the other local places.  I thought it would be "trendy" for a couple of months and then everyone would move on to another similar place or go through a dozen name changes like the Ivey, or whatever it's called now, on Brookside, which seems like the same clientelle. 
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: rdj on January 31, 2012, 08:26:03 AM
No Ed Hardy/Affliction need not enter.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: carltonplace on January 31, 2012, 10:34:35 AM
Matt Sanders at the Wine Bar knows, go twist his arm.
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on February 05, 2012, 12:37:57 PM
pink is out... big truck tacos is going in that building...
everything else gets leveled and rebuilt as retail, with offices above...
no living...
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: Breadburner on February 05, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
I heard kitchell has a hand in it.....
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: Hoss on February 05, 2012, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: Breadburner on February 05, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
I heard kitchell has a hand in it.....

It'll tank then....
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on May 13, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
Pink is officially closed...
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: Hoss on May 13, 2012, 10:02:25 PM
Quote from: brunoflipper on May 13, 2012, 08:43:12 PM
Pink is officially closed...

The curse of the Kitchell strikes yet again!
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: brunoflipper on September 30, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
http://www.couryprop.com/documents/118Boston.pdf

Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: carltonplace on October 01, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: brunoflipper on September 30, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
http://www.couryprop.com/documents/118Boston.pdf



Will the orientation of the structure be the same as the existing? Built on the sidewalk facing 18th St?
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: DowntownDan on October 01, 2012, 10:59:41 AM
Hate to see that old building go away, but this looks nice.  Any rumors as to who the committed first floor retailers are?
Title: Re: Sobo Development LLC - 18th and Boston?
Post by: sgrizzle on October 01, 2012, 11:06:43 AM
Opening to the trail like that, too bad it doesn't include residential.