WHAT: Roger Waters "The Wall Live"
WHERE: BOK Center
WHEN: Saturday, May 5, 2012
ON SALE: Monday, November 14 at 10am
TICKETS: $57.00, $77.00, $101.00, $201.00
TICKET INFO: Available online at www.bokcenter.com, Arby's Box Office, all Tickets.com outlets, or by calling 1-866-7-BOKCTR.
November 11, 2011 – Roger Waters, the co-founder and principal songwriter of the archetypal progressive band Pink Floyd, has announced the return of the historic production of "The Wall" to North America in 2012. His aural and visual masterpiece of alienation and transformation will be performed in-its-entirety featuring a full band and state-of-the-art production. "The Wall" live has played more than 120 shows around the world for more than 1.6 million fans making it one of the most successful tours of 2010 and 2011. Tickets for "The Wall" 2012 go on sale beginning on Monday, November 7th at LiveNation.com.
The 2012 tour will begin on May 1st in Houston, Texas at the Toyota Center making a 36 show trek throughout North America, including several outdoor stadium performances with state of the art modifications transforming the arena production into magnificent outdoor events. The tour, promoted by Live Nation, includes stadium stops in San Francisco at AT&T Park on May 11th, Vancouver at BC Place on May 26th, Chicago's Wrigley Field on June 8th, Toronto at Rogers Centre on June 23rd and Philadelphia at the Citizens Bank Park on July 14th.
"Thirty years ago when I wrote 'The Wall,' I was a frightened young man," Waters recalls. "In the intervening years it occurred to me that maybe the story of my fear and loss with its concomitant inevitable residue of ridicule, shame and punishment, provides an allegory for broader concerns: Nationalism, racism, sexism, religion, whatever! All these issues and 'isms are driven by the same fears that drove my young life."
Waters' first reinvented his iconic stage production of "The Wall" in 2010 utilizing modern day technological advances and special effects which have been embraced by audiences around the globe with countless sold out performances and multiple-night stands including a record-breaking 9 sold out shows at the River Plate Stadium in Buenos Aires, Argentina. "The Wall" remains one of the most influential albums in the history of recorded music with a profound effect on pop culture, resonating with multiple generations of music fans.
Prior to 2010, "The Wall" show was simply too large to contemplate a tour, but new arenas and advances in touring technology have solved that dilemma. Waters has updated the look and feel of the show to ensure it matches the astonishing theatrical extravaganza that The Wall's live incarnation became so legendary for - thus allowing yet another generation to be inspired by the grandeur of the breathtaking visual and aural spectacle. The 1980 original production of the "The Wall" had been performed live-in-its-entirety just 29 times during Pink Floyd's 1980 tour in support of the album and once in Berlin in celebration of the fall of the Berlin wall.
The Associated Press described opening night in 2010 with, "Roger Waters tore down the house Wednesday night in Toronto...He walked out to thunderous applause beginning with the first track of the seminal concept album, 'In the Flesh', and the adulation never stopped." While during the New York stop, the New York Post declared, "When Roger Waters finished building "The Wall" in its entirety, at Madison Square Garden, it was just another brick on what was the best arena concert I've ever been to. Period."
In addition to Roger Waters (lead vocals, bass), "The Wall" live touring ensemble includes: Snowy White (Guitar), Dave Kilminster (Guitar), GE Smith (Guitar & Bass), Jon Carin (Keyboards), Harry Waters (Hammond Organ), Graham Broad (Drums), Robbie Wyckoff (Vocals), Jon Joyce, Pat Lennon, Mark Lennon and Kipp Lennon (Backing Vocals).
Roger Waters "The Wall" North American Tour Itinerary:
May 01 Houston, TX Toyota Center On Sale 11/14
May 03 Austin, TX Frank Erwin Center On Sale 11/14
May 05 Tulsa, OK BOK Center On Sale 11/14
May 07 Denver, CO Pepsi Center On Sale 11/14
May 11 San Francisco, CA AT&T Park On Sale 11/18
May 13 San Diego, CA Valley View Casino Center On Sale 11/14
May 15 Phoenix, AZ US Airways On Sale 11/14
May 19 Los Angeles, CA TBD On sale 11/18
May 22 Portland, OR Rose Garden On Sale 11/14
May 24 Seattle, WA Key Arena On Sale 11/14
May 26 Vancouver, BC BC Place On Sale 11/14
May 28 Edmonton, AB Rexall Place On Sale 11/14
May 31 Winnipeg, MB MTS Centre On Sale 11/14
June 03 St Paul, MN Xcel Energy Center On Sale 11/14
June 05 Detroit, MI Joe Louis Arena On Sale 11/14
June 06 Grand Rapids, MI Van Andel Arena On Sale 11/14
June 08 Chicago, IL Wrigley Field On Sale 11/14
June 10 Louisville, KY KFC Yum! Center On Sale 11/14
June 11 Indianapolis, IN Conseco Fieldhouse On Sale 11/14
June 13 Atlanta, GA Philips Arena On Sale 11/14
June 15 Ft Lauderdale, FL BankAtlantic Center On Sale 11/14
June 16 Orlando, FL Amway Center On Sale 11/18
June 19 Nashville, TN Bridgestone Arena On Sale 11/14
June 21 Buffalo, NY First Niagara Center On Sale 11/14
June 23 Toronto, ON Rogers Centre On Sale 11/14
June 25 Ottawa, ON Scotiabank Place On Sale 11/14
June 26 Montreal, QC Bell Centre On Sale 11/14
June 28 Albany, NY Times Union Center On Sale 11/14
June 29 Hartford, CT XL Center On Sale 11/14
July 1 Boston, MA TBD On sale 1/30/12
July 03 Pittsburgh, PA Consol Energy Center On Sale 11/14
July 06 New York, NY TBD On sale 1/30/12
July 09 Raleigh, NC RBC Center On Sale 11/14
July 10 Charlotte, NC Time Warner Cable Arena On Sale 11/14
July 12 Washington DC Verizon Center On Sale 11/14
July 14 Philadelphia, PA Citizens Bank Park On Sale 11/7
For complete ticket and tour information, please visit RogerWaters.com, Tickets.com and LiveNation.com.
Thank you so much for posting this. I have got to see this show live. The videos of last years concerts are just awsome.
Also. Do any of you have inside tips on buying BOK Concert tickets ? The last ones that I bought from LiveNation was a pain in the a$$ trying to get through on the phone the moment the tickets went on sale.
Quote from: DolfanBob on November 01, 2011, 04:00:37 PM
Thank you so much for posting this. I have got to see this show live. The videos of last years concerts are just awsome.
Also. Do any of you have inside tips on buying BOK Concert tickets ? The last ones that I bought from LiveNation was a pain in the a$$ trying to get through on the phone the moment the tickets went on sale.
Your best bet? If you have some time to kill around the time they go on sale, make the trip downtown to the box office. It's better that way.
Quote from: Hoss on November 01, 2011, 05:40:58 PM
Your best bet? If you have some time to kill around the time they go on sale, make the trip downtown to the box office. It's better that way.
Got em. I joined Roger Water's dot com and was able to get my tickets on Pre-Sale. Two tickets in the bowl area just off the floor. This is going to be epic.
Quote from: DolfanBob on November 08, 2011, 08:42:47 AM
Got em. I joined Roger Water's dot com and was able to get my tickets on Pre-Sale. Two tickets in the bowl area just off the floor. This is going to be epic.
Got my FF via pre-sale. That, and the fact that the Foo's most expensive seats were 49 bucks and they were on stage nearly 3 hours made it the most epic concert I've ever been to. Enjoy!
Help me out here guy's. I am thinking about making a night of it and renting a hotel room Downtown for the Wife and I. And dinner before the show. Where would you guy's eat and stay at ? She is not really a person who likes walking long distances so keep that in mind.
Quote from: DolfanBob on November 08, 2011, 11:57:39 AM
Help me out here guy's. I am thinking about making a night of it and renting a hotel room Downtown for the Wife and I. And dinner before the show. Where would you guy's eat and stay at ? She is not really a person who likes walking long distances so keep that in mind.
What is a long distance?
I've not been to Trula in a while but a while back I'd've suggested Mayo and Trula. I can't say how the food is anymore though.
You might check to see if Ambassador is running a shuttle that night. Then I'd say there and eat at Chalkboard.
I'm hestitent. Anyone seen/talked to someone who has seen this show?
Sometimes retired artists who come back are doing it for other rea$on$ than to put on a good show...
Quote from: cannon_fodder on November 08, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
I'm hestitent. Anyone seen/talked to someone who has seen this show?
Sometimes retired artists who come back are doing it for other rea$on$ than to put on a good show...
There are several full concert videos on YouTube. Check it out. It is one spectacular show.
Quote from: Townsend on November 08, 2011, 01:14:00 PM
What is a long distance?
I've not been to Trula in a while but a while back I'd've suggested Mayo and Trula. I can't say how the food is anymore though.
You might check to see if Ambassador is running a shuttle that night. Then I'd say there and eat at Chalkboard.
Yes, either the Mayo or the Ambassador. Most likely your pre-concert meal will not be a four-course affair, you're probably looking for heavy appetizers or a sandwich, so you can't go wrong at either place (Trula at the Mayo or the Chalkboard at Ambassador).
I saw his "In the Flesh" tour in '99, and then the "Dark Side" tour a few years later. Both were totally worth it, and I drove to Pennsylvania for the first one.
The epic proportions of the stage show for this are amazing. Don't hesitate to buy tickets. This isn't like going to see Styx with a different singer at the casino, it's Roger Waters! He is not a has been, but a pioneer.
If you have the dough, the Ambassador/Chalkboard is your best bet, especially because the hotel offers a free shuttle (Escalade) until 11pm. If there are enough reservations, The Chalkboard rents the trolley and offers round trip rides to the show for $6/person. And the food is outstanding.
And, like I said, Roger is not retired, he's been touring the past 10 years, and released couple of fine albums after Pink Floyd. "Amused to Death" is incredible.
Presale FTW. ;D
Best show that I have ever seen in my life. It was worth every penny spent. I would go and see it again if the opportunity ever comes around.
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 07, 2012, 09:55:38 AM
Best show that I have ever seen in my life. It was worth every penny spent. I would go and see it again if the opportunity ever comes around.
One of the great performance art pieces ever.... fun to observe.
I think there's 60 million dollars invested in the entire production which has been touring for 2 years.
185 union Stage Hands for R. Waters (not counting their entourage, probably 50).
Best beam projection I've seen... 64 I-5, plus sub side car Line Array. 64 R-4s for rear 'surround fill'.
If it were not for the two intoxicated chickies right in front of me who truely must have believed they could "chat" over that sound system and except for the odor in the BOK (is that sanitizer or some pumped in sense smell to cover pot?), I'd have said it was up there as well with regard to overall concert enjoyment. Having been there and done that, it still was great to experience.
Perhaps, the greatest achievement was going up outside the BOK....
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I couldn't avoid the pot smell. I had three people right behind me doing the reefer madness. It's been quite a few years that I have had that smell to the senses.
I did enjoy the three lovely young ladies who sat right in front of me. One of them was wearing a bustier as her top. And her friend was wearing a Corona shirt with a knot tied in the mid drift.
I was wondering through the show how much they had been spending on those overpriced drinks cause they were putting them away. Ah to be young again.
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 07, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
I couldn't avoid the pot smell. I had three people right behind me doing the reefer madness. It's been quite a few years that I have had that smell to the senses.
I did enjoy the three lovely young ladies who sat right in front of me. One of them was wearing a bustier as her top. And her friend was wearing a Corona shirt with a knot tied in the mid drift.
I was wondering through the show how much they had been spending on those overpriced drinks cause they were putting them away. Ah to be young again.
Everyone carries a camera...no pics? Pot smokers? Where were you? Upper rafters? I thought they busted pot smokers in the BOK...or just the one's they know will be there like the Panic heads. 8)
I've had folks in the suite next to me smoking a little golden leaf during the oddest shows.
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 07, 2012, 09:55:38 AM
Best show that I have ever seen in my life. It was worth every penny spent. I would go and see it again if the opportunity ever comes around.
Surprising, given the anti-corporatist bent. The first thing I noticed was a pervasive smell of Jack Daniels. The guy next to me had apparently tossed quite a few back before the show. As soon as he smelled some pot he was off trying to find it. Hilarious. I would have thought people that could afford floor seats could also afford better than mexican dirt weed, but that's what it smelled like much of the night. I thought it was pretty ballsy to start smoking right there in the middle of the floor with ushers stationed every 5 feet.
I didn't really appreciate the snuff film, either. I've tried to avoid actually seeing it, yet there it was. I thought it was pretty good, but a little too thought provoking to make a really fun evening out. Maybe I should have had some of my neighbor's Jack. :P
Your right Nate. The smut on huge screen really didn't need to be seen by all the kids that were there with their parents. I was about 5 steps up from the floor right under the plane that flew through the wall. As I said. It was quite fun watching the two shows going on. The band and the local people.
Now that this blockbuster show is over the BOK can finally start it's lapse into insolvency ;)
Quote from: Conan71 on May 07, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Now that this blockbuster show is over the BOK can finally start it's lapse into insolvency ;)
Does that mean people will abandon their suites and I can pick one up on the cheap?
Quote from: Conan71 on May 07, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Now that this blockbuster show is over the BOK can finally start it's lapse into insolvency ;)
Insolvency does not have to take place because this is a socialist project! ;D
Bob, it's "you're" and I do not consider anything as smut in that performance. Prude.
Gawd dang it ! I forgot you're, you're, you're. Old habits are hard to break.
And no for my Adult eyes it was all good. I just saw some young children in the crowd.
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 07, 2012, 04:32:04 PM
Gawd dang it ! I forgot you're, you're, you're. Old habits are hard to break.
And no for my Adult eyes it was all good. I just saw some young children in the crowd.
Oh sweet Jesus...Dawg forbid some kids see implied sex by nature animation or pics of tits. Prude....Do not look back! Forward.... :)
I only caught the end of the show, but from what I saw this is a show that I would actually be willing to pay to see, even if there are a bunch of asshats that seem to think that it's fine to light up a bowl or two no matter who they subject it on.
Quote from: custosnox on May 07, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
I only caught the end of the show, but from what I saw this is a show that I would actually be willing to pay to see, even if there are a bunch of asshats that seem to think that it's fine to light up a bowl or two no matter who they subject it on.
Oh please. So, you'd take lame brain fat girls drinking and chatting during the show over a little chronic being toked? The alcohol thing is out of control and the BOK pours it on. Are you kind?
Quote from: Teatownclown on May 07, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
Oh please. So, you'd take lame brain fat girls drinking and chatting during the show over a little chronic being toked? The alcohol thing is out of control and the BOK pours it on. Are you kind?
if they drink, it effects their bodies. Some one lights up, and it forces me to partake by extension.
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
if they drink, it effects their bodies. Some one lights up, and it forces me to partake by extension.
Might not hurt...
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
if they drink, it effects their bodies. Some one lights up, and it forces me to partake by extension.
WRONG! Drinking does harm to innocent third parties....Conan, straighten this out!
Quote from: Teatownclown on May 08, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
WRONG! Drinking does harm to innocent third parties....Conan, straighten this out!
Especially if you are seated behind a few drunken poombahs who won't mellow out after paying $80 for your seat.
If they try and drive home afterwards...don't make me go there.
Quote from: Teatownclown on May 08, 2012, 09:43:23 AM
WRONG! Drinking does harm to innocent third parties....Conan, straighten this out!
Oh, so you sitting there drinking your beer affects me how? But then, you know, pot is not addictive, that's why the pot heads are fighting tooth and nail to get it legalized and be able to smoke it wherever they want despite how it effects others. Kind of like those people that smoke cigarettes just outside the door of public places.
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 12:05:19 PM
Oh, so you sitting there drinking your beer effects me how? But then, you know, pot is not addictive, that's why the pot heads are fighting tooth and nail to get it legalized and be able to smoke it wherever they want despite how it effects others. Kind of like those people that smoke cigarettes just outside the door of public places.
If someone starts getting loud and obnoxious as a result of getting drunk, that affects you. Does it not?
Quote from: Conan71 on May 08, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
If someone starts getting loud and obnoxious as a result of getting drunk, that affects you. Does it not?
Not physically.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 08, 2012, 12:13:01 PM
If someone starts getting loud and obnoxious as a result of getting drunk, that affects you. Does it not?
And it's not the act of them drinking that affects me, it's their reaction to it (same as if they drive afterwards). Those that get drunk and get loud and obnoxious are almost as much of asshats as those who force me to get stoned via contact high. Those who drink and drive are more so.
So the concert was pretty good huh?
Quote from: Townsend on May 08, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
So the concert was pretty good huh?
No it was EXCELLENT !
And the three babes in front of me was getting a little drunk and....well not so disturbing. But being the man I am. I gave em a pass. ;D
Quote from: Townsend on May 08, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
So the concert was pretty good huh?
Like I said, I would actually pay to see this one. Can't remember if I've ever said that.
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 12:24:05 PM
And it's not the act of them drinking that affects me, it's their reaction to it (same as if they drive afterwards). Those that get drunk and get loud and obnoxious are almost as much of asshats as those who force me to get stoned via contact high. Those who drink and drive are more so.
Sounds like I need to hit up more shows at the BOK for that contact high!!! Can't say I've ever had such luck at a venue. Is it that nefarious AC that David Lee Roth wanted turned off that does it?
Quote from: rdj on May 08, 2012, 01:13:25 PM
Sounds like I need to hit up more shows at the BOK for that contact high!!! Can't say I've ever had such luck at a venue. Is it that nefarious AC that David Lee Roth wanted turned off that does it?
if the guy standing right next to you or right below you starts token up, then yeah, you can get a contact high.
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 07:17:05 PM
if the guy standing right next to you or right below you starts token up, then yeah, you can get a contact high.
If the guy right below me or next to me blazes up, I'm likely to ask him to pass it....wait, what?
Quote from: Hoss on May 08, 2012, 07:31:41 PM
If the guy right below me or next to me blazes up, I'm likely to ask him to pass it....wait, what?
That's you. I prefer not to have a mind altering drug in my system.
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 08:24:21 PM
That's you. I prefer not to have a mind altering drug in my system.
Not even caffeine? Or high fructose corn syrup? (Are you a communist?)
Quote from: custosnox on May 08, 2012, 07:17:05 PM
if the guy standing right next to you or right below you starts token up, then yeah, you can get a contact high.
Is "token up" like when you go all the coins in 80's video games and got bigger? ;D
I've been around a lot of pot smoke at a lot of concerts in a lot of venues and don't recall ever getting a contact high.
My favorite in Tulsa was probably the business man & woman in their 60's toking up during the Bob Dylan show at Cain's right after the Rodgers family remodeled the facility. They received it via pass to their right. I was on their left. They puffed, puffed, forgot to pass, puffed, puffed, forgot to pass. I would have just passed but I laughed all night as spliff after spliff found its way to them and never left.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 08, 2012, 08:26:18 PM
Not even caffeine? Or high fructose corn syrup? (Are you a communist?)
oh yeah, because that is the same thing as smoking pot.
Quote from: custosnox on May 09, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
oh yeah, because that is the same thing as smoking pot.
You brought up mind altering drugs for your system....
(Also, I hope you don't smoke cigarettes...first of all because of the horrendous things it would be doing to you, but second because of the mind-altering aspects...)
Quote from: custosnox on May 09, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
oh yeah, because that is the same thing as smoking pot.
You gotta watch out, you drink enough Mt Dew you'll get all hopped up like a spider monkey.
Quote from: rdj on May 09, 2012, 02:46:47 PM
You gotta watch out, you drink enough Mt Dew you'll get all hopped up like a spider monkey.
"Greatest generation my exit. Tom Brokaw was a punk"...
That whole dinner sequence in that movie was pretty funny.
Quote from: Hoss on May 09, 2012, 02:52:46 PM
"Greatest generation my exit. Tom Brokaw was a punk"...
That whole dinner sequence in that movie was pretty funny.
Sweet baby Jesus!
Quote from: rdj on May 09, 2012, 03:10:26 PM
Sweet baby Jesus!
funny thing was that on Sunday, someone who didn't have a sponsor drove in the Talladega race with that same paint scheme pretty much. The cougar on the hood with the word "ME" and on the back the phrase was "I wanna go fast". Bout spit my beer out when I saw it. See if I can find a capture of it.
OK, back to talking about token up. ;D
Quote from: Hoss on May 09, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
OK, back to talking about token up. ;D
You know where to find a good pinball machine around here? ;)
Quote from: Hoss on May 09, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
funny thing was that on Sunday, someone who didn't have a sponsor drove in the Talladega race with that same paint scheme pretty much. The cougar on the hood with the word "ME" and on the back the phrase was "I wanna go fast". Bout spit my beer out when I saw it. See if I can find a capture of it.
OK, back to talking about token up. ;D
Kurt Busch. Didn't have sponsors. Ironically had to call the sponsors that were on the movie version and have them agree to not be on the real life version. Will Ferrell also had to approve. The funny thing is that Ferrell didn't get permission from the companies that were listed on the movie version.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 09, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
You brought up mind altering drugs for your system....
(Also, I hope you don't smoke cigarettes...first of all because of the horrendous things it would be doing to you, but second because of the mind-altering aspects...)
hmmmm... let's see here, I've smoked pot, and I've drank coffee, and let me tell you, the difference of mind altering is astounding. If you think that it is really the same thing, then you have been smoking pot for a little too long. And for the record, I do limit the amount of caffeine I take in because I don't want to have enough to change my perceptions or cloud my mind. As far as cigarettes, I quit that several years ago as well, but the addiction made it a long hard road. But I see this as being real simple, laws aside, if someone things that their need to smoke pot in my immediate vicinity is greater than my desire to not have to have it second hand, I see my need to shove it up their exit as my prerogative.
Quote from: custosnox on May 09, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
hmmmm... let's see here, I've smoked pot, and I've drank coffee, and let me tell you, the difference of mind altering is astounding. If you think that it is really the same thing, then you have been smoking pot for a little too long. And for the record, I do limit the amount of caffeine I take in because I don't want to have enough to change my perceptions or cloud my mind. As far as cigarettes, I quit that several years ago as well, but the addiction made it a long hard road. But I see this as being real simple, laws aside, if someone things that their need to smoke pot in my immediate vicinity is greater than my desire to not have to have it second hand, I see my need to shove it up their exit as my prerogative.
See what you started Townie? You Southies and your profanity replacements.... ;D
That aside, in my mid twenties I picked the habit back up a little again after I started getting incredibly intense migraines that couldn't be quelled with any medicine. Smoke a bowl, and that fixed it. It didn't happen often, and more times than not I didn't have any around (I never bought it, I had friends who were usually either at my apartment, or would come over if I asked), but it sure kicked that migraine in the exit.
Quote from: Hoss on May 09, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
See what you started Townie? You Southies and your profanity replacements.... ;D
That aside, in my mid twenties I picked the habit back up a little again after I started getting incredibly intense migraines that couldn't be quelled with any medicine. Smoke a bowl, and that fixed it. It didn't happen often, and more times than not I didn't have any around (I never bought it, I had friends who were usually either at my apartment, or would come over if I asked), but it sure kicked that migraine in the exit.
I don't have any particular problem with those who smoke it, just those that think it's okay to force it on me in some manner or another.
Quote from: custosnox on May 09, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
But I see this as being real simple, laws aside, if someone things that their need to smoke pot in my immediate vicinity is greater than my desire to not have to have it second hand, I see my need to shove it up their exit as my prerogative.
Well, I agree with you 100,000% on that one. Only I would rather shove it up their a$$. I figure if they feel they have the right to smoke next to me, then I have the right to carp on their lap and they got no reason to complain about it. It's the same thing exactly.
Quote from: custosnox on May 09, 2012, 10:56:56 PM
hmmmm... let's see here, I've smoked pot, and I've drank coffee, and let me tell you, the difference of mind altering is astounding. If you think that it is really the same thing, then you have been smoking pot for a little too long.
No. You were drinking the wrong coffee!
Once upon a time there was a grocery store where Drysdales is on south Memorial. Sipes. They always had a pot of coffee at the back of the store that was free to customers. I would go there with a close family member who was really into coffee, too. We drank coffee all over this town and that was some of the best and amazingly strong coffee available in the 60's. Only thing missing was a piece of homemade boysenberry pie!! And I could get that - and more coffee AND Mt Dew - at a little cafe on the northeast corner of 76th street north and Main in Owasso. Good stuff!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 09, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
No. You were drinking the wrong coffee!
Once upon a time there was a grocery store where Drysdales is on south Memorial. Sipes. They always had a pot of coffee at the back of the store that was free to customers. I would go there with a close family member who was really into coffee, too. We drank coffee all over this town and that was some of the best and amazingly strong coffee available in the 60's. Only thing missing was a piece of homemade boysenberry pie!! And I could get that - and more coffee AND Mt Dew - at a little cafe on the northeast corner of 76th street north and Main in Owasso. Good stuff!
Actually, I'm wired wrong. Unless I drink a lot of it, at most all it does is help me concentrate. I can drink a pot then head to bed and sleep soundly (until it's time for it to come out). But in any case, I think mind altering isn't the most accurate term, because yes, just about everything alters our mental state. When I say it in this case, I mean substantially altering my perception and/or mental clarity.
I used to get high on life, but then I built up a tolerance. Instead of seizing a day, soon I was up to a week or more.