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Title: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: carltonplace on October 12, 2011, 10:08:16 AM
I guess George is not doing well. Looks like it will go up for sale again.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: Conan71 on October 12, 2011, 10:46:02 AM
Closed for repairs too?

Should we just start a new thread called "Closed For Repairs" for all the latest restaurant and B & B closings?

Just curious how busy the B & B part of their business was?  Apparently not very.  I know McBirney has been a popular spot for weddings, receptions, and other parties for many years but seems a posh B & B in Tulsa isn't going to do much volume.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: DTowner on October 12, 2011, 11:34:19 AM
I think it had pretty steady occupancy in the rooms.  The Chef they hired last Spring was excellent.  I'm not sure how viable a true B&B is in Tulsa.  Perhaps it could work if you combined with a popular/sucessful restaurant.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: Breadburner on October 12, 2011, 12:15:03 PM
Did those mean women still own it....???
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: carltonplace on October 12, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
Quote from: Breadburner on October 12, 2011, 12:15:03 PM
Did those mean women still own it....???

Caroline has been gone for several years now. Mean is one of the nicest adjectives I've seen attached to her.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: Townsend on October 12, 2011, 12:19:55 PM
Quote from: carltonplace on October 12, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
Mean is one of the nicest adjectives I've seen attached to her.

Oy, +1
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: carltonplace on October 12, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on October 12, 2011, 10:46:02 AM
Closed for repairs too?

Should we just start a new thread called "Closed For Repairs" for all the latest restaurant and B & B closings?

Just curious how busy the B & B part of their business was?  Apparently not very.  I know McBirney has been a popular spot for weddings, receptions, and other parties for many years but seems a posh B & B in Tulsa isn't going to do much volume.

Thanks for the laugh. The mansion does well as a B&B and as an event center. The property price tag ($2M+) is a huge hurdle.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: DTowner on October 12, 2011, 01:58:41 PM
Quote from: Breadburner on October 12, 2011, 12:15:03 PM
Did those mean women still own it....???

Coury has owned it for a while.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: SXSW on October 12, 2011, 04:19:03 PM
Is it closed or not?  I'd like to try their brunch sometime.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: Townsend on October 12, 2011, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: SXSW on October 12, 2011, 04:19:03 PM
Is it closed or not?  I'd like to try their brunch sometime.

Closing soon
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: Breadburner on October 12, 2011, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: carltonplace on October 12, 2011, 12:17:30 PM
Caroline has been gone for several years now. Mean is one of the nicest adjectives I've seen attached to her.

I meant the other mean ones....Not "The Porcupine".......
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: carltonplace on October 13, 2011, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Breadburner on October 12, 2011, 07:18:46 PM
I meant the other mean ones....Not "The Porcupine".......

haha. Who are the other mean ones?
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: Breadburner on October 13, 2011, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: carltonplace on October 13, 2011, 01:37:59 PM
haha. Who are the other mean ones?

The other mean ones that owned it....Like 2 or 3 of them.....
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: carltonplace on October 13, 2011, 03:06:31 PM
Caroline sold it to the current owner and he is closing it due to health. I know both of the two ladies that have managed the reservations during this time (Ann and then Jana) and I can't imagine either one of them being rude to a customer. So I guess I don't know who the mean ones are outside of the bristly one.
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: zstyles on October 19, 2011, 11:07:05 AM
This place is a joke, I mean management wise and layout wise for anything over 50 people at the same time...a new business plan or expansion somehow would help it..or just sell it to someone to turn into a house...
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: rdj on October 20, 2011, 10:13:58 AM
I don't believe Khoury ever owned this hotel, only managed the property.

Was the plan to expand just a complete pipe dream?
Title: Re: McBirney Mansion B&B Closes
Post by: carltonplace on October 20, 2011, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: rdj on October 20, 2011, 10:13:58 AM
I don't believe Khoury ever owned this hotel, only managed the property.

Was the plan to expand just a complete pipe dream?

It didn't start out that way, but they didn't do their homework. The grounds are protected by the Oklahoma Historical Society because of the underground spring which Washington Irving visited while writing "A Tour of the Prairies". The Mansion is on the National List of Historical Places and there are (not really strenuous) limits to changes that can be made to the structure itself.

Basically the plan was to put underground parking and additional hotel space on the grounds (would have diverted or destroyed the spring) and tear a hole in the mansion for a skywalk (would have egregiously altered the structure).