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TULSA - Development continues to boom in west Tulsa.
In less than a week a major retailer will hold its grand opening, and it's bringing a wave of new businesses.
Sam's Club will open next Wednesday night.
"I just can't believe it's exploded to being this big," said John Harper, the chair of the Southwest Tulsa Chamber of Commerce.
Harper said the Tulsa Hills Shopping Center is bringing new opportunities to the area daily.
"It has exceeded all of anybody's expectations I believe," said Harper.
Already announced, and opening soon are a Cracker Barrel, a car wash, Staples, Dick's Sporting Goods and of course, Sam's Club.
"I think they chose this market correctly and we were in dire need over here for something like that," said Harper.
West Tulsa residents Dale and Pat Johnson agree.
"Long past due to have something like this on this side of town, we haven't had any shopping places on the west side in years," said Dale Johnson.
They make a point to stop by Tulsa Hills regularly.
"Probably about three times a week," said Johnson.
They're always on the look-out for new shops.
"I noticed that they've started another building just down the road, I don't know what it's going to be, they haven't got a sign out yet. We're all kind of curious," said Johnson.
That building could be a variety of newly announced additions that haven't advertised just yet.
According to Harper, a Jiffy Lube, Hideaway Pizza, Panera Bread and the Flying Burrito Company are on the way.
The new businesses are also bringing more housing to the area. Along with new homes, the Nickel Creek apartment complex is working to add more than 100 units.
"I've lived in west Tulsa all my life and never imagined, I can remember this being wooded, and so to see it finally coming along," said Harper.
The Southwest Tulsa Chamber says a couple of QuikTrips are also moving to the area. One is expected to be across from Tulsa Hills.
Flying Burrito?!?!
It'd better still be Freebirds!
Quote from: BKDotCom on September 15, 2011, 05:59:19 PM
Flying Burrito?!?!
It'd better still be Freebirds!
I love Flying Burrito on Brookside.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 15, 2011, 06:11:19 PM
I love Flying Burrito on Brookside.
Flying burrito..that's not that place that used to be about 53rd and Yale just across from Lafortune Park is it?
Quote from: Hoss on September 15, 2011, 06:28:47 PM
Flying burrito..that's not that place that used to be about 53rd and Yale just across from Lafortune Park is it?
No, that was Atomic Burrito and it's now a Qdoba. FAIK, the 37th & Peoria location is their first one in Tulsa. I believe they are out of Fayetteville. I figured it would be full of FAIL with a name like that, but I usually grab a 'rito once a week there. Rice & beans are great cycling fuel. Their salsa is pretty good as well.
They are on par with Chipotle, Qdoba, or Freebirds, basically a huge stuffed burrito. Saying one place or another is better out of those is really a tough claim since they all serve pretty much the same product for about the same price. I like FBC as I can get in and out a whole lot easier than Chipotle on 15th at lunch time.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 15, 2011, 07:07:01 PM
They are on par with Chipotle, Qdoba, or Freebirds, basically a huge stuffed burrito. Saying one place or another is better out of those is really a tough claim since they all serve pretty much the same product for about the same price. I like FBC as I can get in and out a whole lot easier than Chipotle on 15th at lunch time.
Qdoba is is clearly the worst of the 4. Bland, soggy mess. And it seems like they charge extra for a lot of items.
Anyhow, I guess today's news is that Tulsa Hills is also getting a Hideaway pizza.. I suppose that's the new structure that's popped up north of Sam's
Quote from: BKDotCom on September 15, 2011, 08:54:07 PM
Qdoba is is clearly the worst of the 4. Bland, soggy mess. And it seems like they charge extra for a lot of items.
Anyhow, I guess today's news is that Tulsa Hills is also getting a Hideaway pizza.. I suppose that's the new structure that's popped up north of Sam's
I rate them:
1. Flying Burrito
2. Qdoba
3. Chipotle
Two burrito joints in Tulsa Hills would be odd. I'm gonna assume the reporter fumbled the burrito joint name and Freebirds is the one coming.
Quote from: Conan71 on September 15, 2011, 07:07:01 PM
No, that was Atomic Burrito and it's now a Qdoba. FAIK, the 37th & Peoria location is their first one in Tulsa. I believe they are out of Fayetteville. I figured it would be full of FAIL with a name like that, but I usually grab a 'rito once a week there. Rice & beans are great cycling fuel. Their salsa is pretty good as well.
They are on par with Chipotle, Qdoba, or Freebirds, basically a huge stuffed burrito. Saying one place or another is better out of those is really a tough claim since they all serve pretty much the same product for about the same price. I like FBC as I can get in and out a whole lot easier than Chipotle on 15th at lunch time.
Ah, that's right. I went there a couple of times. I actually thought it was ok for what it was. Taco Cabana, on the other hand, I had heads up on before it came to Tulsa (I had my first experience with the Cabana living in Houston in 1991...swore off that place after the first try).
I miss Atomic Burrito as they seemed to have more variety in options. I love Chipotle's rice, chicken and their hot sauce, so I place them first. Anyplace where I can watch them marinate, grill, and cut my food in front of me is A+ in my book. Flying burrito is 2nd but not very convenient for me, and nothing there is hot.
Qdoba is crap.
Any word on the development on the other side of 81st? That area really needs a grocery store. Might also be wise for the city to start looking at expanding that intersection before development makes it difficult.
Funny thing, it has taken them just as long to build and open the new Sam's as that car wash they mention.
Quote from: sgrizzle on September 16, 2011, 08:00:00 AM
I miss Atomic Burrito as they seemed to have more variety in options. I love Chipotle's rice, chicken and their hot sauce, so I place them first. Anyplace where I can watch them marinate, grill, and cut my food in front of me is A+ in my book. Flying burrito is 2nd but not very convenient for me, and nothing there is hot.
Qdoba is crap.
Atomic Burrito is still around, it's just called Los Cabos now.
I'm sorry to be a hater but I really have to just say...
Are we really getting excited about sams? boring chain food service? In a suburban craphole of a development? Don't get me wrong. It is LOOONG overdue that the west side get some love. That is beyond doubt. I'm glad that they can get something going on over there that might help take down the idea that it's nothing but sewage treatment plants and oil refineries. However, being there or at 41st and yale or 71st and mingo or 111 and memorial is all the same. They got a store full of 55 gallon drums full of crap you don't need? Oh Goodie! Gimme a break. I would get 10 times as excited about a locally owned business downtown providing a needed service than a sams or walmarts or Ikea or Urban outfitters (damn hipsters).
I remember when I was a kid growing up in southie, thinking that chain restaurants and big box stores meant progress and development. I remebe thinking that the walmart being built at 81st abd lewis was an awesome step forward. Then I turned 17. The I realized that it's just status quo. Then I realized it's just more of the same.
I know that I'm being a huge downer but really, this sucks. It just sucks. I want my city to do better than this. I know it can. We all do.
Suburban development is progress, like it or not, it is. Chain stores and restaurants can be a good thing. I'm very excited about the Dick's store opening.
QuoteSuburban development is progress, like it or not, it is. Chain stores and restaurants can be a good thing. I'm very excited about the Dick's store opening.
No, no it isn't. I realize that cities can't exist without buffers btween urban and agrarian. However, suburban development, [read: racially motivated, energy inefficent, social death-hole] is not progress. it is the same development that was being built in 1965. and 1985. and 2005. They are all the same. wether it was Utica square or tulsa hills they all helped to destroy our urban core. You are excited about a Dick's sporting goods? I heard of a new food service place you might like called McDonalds. I hear they have hamburgers or something.
I know that this really is something that bosts our local numbers. I know. I just HATE that we rely on people to come in from outside of tulsa to validate our city as a city. "oh we have another dick's? I think slightly better of tulsa today." But I really wish we could do something for ouselves, rather than build giant HVAC pits and rent them out to people that don't give a smile about our civic character. I know we can. I know we can. I know we can.
Quote from: jacobi on September 16, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
I'm sorry to be a hater but I really have to just say...
If you are a product of the public school system, I may change my mind about vouchers.
Before Tulsa Hills and the stores and restaurants you scorn, there was nothing over here on the west side. Someone came along and put money on the table, cut a deal for a TID to help with public infrastructure, and talked a bunch of merchants into taking a chance on an area that had been previously overlooked. Jacobi, that could have been you, and you could have guided it to your liking, but it wasn't you or any of the "aginners" like you.
You want to do local-only development and put Tulsa Hills out of business? Go for it. Raise the capital, buy the land, get the zoning approval, do the site design and construction, line up the merchants, the whole thing. Good luck.
Talk is cheap.
Quote from: jacobi on September 16, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
No, no it isn't. I realize that cities can't exist without buffers btween urban and agrarian. However, suburban development, [read: racially motivated, energy inefficent, social death-hole] is not progress. it is the same development that was being built in 1965. and 1985. and 2005. They are all the same. wether it was Utica square or tulsa hills they all helped to destroy our urban core. You are excited about a Dick's sporting goods? I heard of a new food service place you might like called McDonalds. I hear they have hamburgers or something.
I know that this really is something that bosts our local numbers. I know. I just HATE that we rely on people to come in from outside of tulsa to validate our city as a city. "oh we have another dick's? I think slightly better of tulsa today." But I really wish we could do something for ouselves, rather than build giant HVAC pits and rent them out to people that don't give a smile about our civic character. I know we can. I know we can. I know we can.
Tulsa Hills was destined to be filled with crappy chains. I just wish the site design was better. I rarely go over there; I went to the Lowe's a couple times when I was renovating my house and may go to the Dick's once or twice a year....midtown has mostly everything I need and most of it is locally-owned.
Quote from: SXSW on September 17, 2011, 09:06:47 AM
Tulsa Hills was destined to be filled with crappy chains. I just wish the site design was better. I rarely go over there; I went to the Lowe's a couple times when I was renovating my house and may go to the Dick's once or twice a year....midtown has mostly everything I need and most of it is locally-owned.
I've said this a dozen or so times, but you're prompting me to say it again...
TULSA HILLS IS NOT FOR YOU!!!Tulsa Hills is about capturing tax dollars from people in West Tulsa, Sapulpa, Glenpool and Jenks who want to have access to big box retailers. Glenpool was on the verge of opening up their own big box center which would have meant millions of Tax dollars being collected just a couple of miles from the city property line (see also: owasso)
If they built the little local urban dense thing that yourself, jacocbi and I prefer, they wouldn't have gone. Glenpool would've put in a supertarget and a best buy, and Tulsa would lose out on millions annually.
Tulsa Hills is likely the densest built strip mall in Tulsa. All of phase 1 has sidewalks, dedicated bus stops and many of it is stores-facing-stores instead of stores-facing-street.
"I just wish the site design was better. "
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Tulsa Hills isn't the Plaza in KC or even Utica Square for that matter. But 71st & Mingo can't even hold Tulsa Hills' jock in terms of "site design". Can we do better in Tulsa? Sure. But have we done MUCH MUCH worse?? lol, absolutely, look at anything east of Mingo and south of 51st Street.
Quote from: bacjz00 on September 17, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
"I just wish the site design was better. "
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Tulsa Hills isn't the Plaza in KC or even Utica Square for that matter. But 71st & Mingo can't even hold Tulsa Hills' jock in terms of "site design". Can we do better in Tulsa? Sure. But have we done MUCH MUCH worse?? lol, absolutely, look at anything east of Mingo and south of 51st Street.
Yup
Tulsa Hills saves me from having to go the 71st & Mingo/Memorial hell. So I hope they get as many box stores as they can so I never have to go to that area again. As someone who lives downtown it is nice to jump on 75, shop, then jump right back on.
Quote from: hello on September 18, 2011, 08:25:34 AM
Tulsa Hills saves me from having to go the 71st & Mingo/Memorial hell. So I hope they get as many box stores as they can so I never have to go to that area again. As someone who lives downtown it is nice to jump on 75, shop, then jump right back on.
The problem though is this: how do you think the 71st/Mingo area got started? They were a place to replace another crowded place. Could be anywhere. Point being, the Hills could suffer from their own success. You never know, in two years we may be saying the same thing about 71st and Olympia as we do now about 71st and Mingo...
Quote from: Hoss on September 18, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
The problem though is this: how do you think the 71st/Mingo area got started? They were a place to replace another crowded place. Could be anywhere. Point being, the Hills could suffer from their own success. You never know, in two years we may be saying the same thing about 71st and Olympia as we do now about 71st and Mingo...
It's nearly 100% occupied and successful?
Quote from: sgrizzle on September 18, 2011, 01:54:28 PM
It's nearly 100% occupied and successful?
No, snarky, that it's traffic hell!
Quote from: Hoss on September 18, 2011, 01:09:04 PM
The problem though is this: how do you think the 71st/Mingo area got started? They were a place to replace another crowded place. Could be anywhere. Point being, the Hills could suffer from their own success. You never know, in two years we may be saying the same thing about 71st and Olympia as we do now about 71st and Mingo...
1)Woodland Hills Mall....one of the most successful malls in the region
2) The extension of 169....
You will not be saying the same thing about 71st and Olympia. The consumer is on sabbatical which will last at least until 2018.
Quote from: Teatownclown on September 18, 2011, 02:43:33 PM
1)Woodland Hills Mall....one of the most successful malls in the region
2) The extension of 169....
You will not be saying the same thing about 71st and Olympia. The consumer is on sabbatical which will last at least until 2018.
If by successful you mean put up as many stores as possible without the slightest forethought of the infrastructure implications, then yes....
Quote from: Hoss on September 18, 2011, 02:28:55 PM
No, snarky, that it's traffic hell!
No, because Tulsa hills moved all the local (store-to-store) traffic onto a set of internal roadways. Only two stoplights intersect a major roadway and that is a 6 lane road plus turn lanes. 71st & Hell involves 2 miles and a dozen stoplights just to get from Fuddruckers to Krispy Kreme to Burlington.
I think Batesline had a post on this once, but if an access road was built running behind the 71st & hell strip (about 68th street or so) then 71st traffic would be greatly improved.
As far as lousy infrastructure, the Broken Arrow side east of 169 developed later and uncoordinated with Tulsa on the west side of 169. The exit onto 71st from 169 was undersized as was 71st. The COT never expected the demand and whored themselves out for sales tax receipts. Traffic signals were only a concern after economic development priorities created additional retail expansion south on 71st. Additionally, the PUD guidelines and development standards at that time dictated layout without flexibility. Only the fire code made for necessary access from one property to another. There were several developers along 71st. At Tulsa Hills there was one developer.
With new centers of retail opening up, the numbers on 71st have leveled out. Now it's south Memorial that's a nightmare...
Quote from: Teatownclown on September 18, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
Now it's south Memorial that's a nightmare...
Tell me about it. :P
Yes, it sucks. Every day and at all hours, it sucks.
Quote from: ZYX on September 18, 2011, 06:35:31 PM
Ye, it sucks. Every day and at all hours, it sucks.
Some hours more than others but generally always.
It would probably help if they quit adding traffic lights. Just a few years ago it wasn't that terrible except during rush hour.
Sorry if this has been mentioned already but I'm too lazy to look.
Is there a grocery in the future?
Yea, Reasors...111th and Memorial. And another "grocer not in this area currently" that's being negotiated further to the north.
Quote from: Townsend on September 19, 2011, 11:11:52 AM
Sorry if this has been mentioned already but I'm too lazy to look.
Is there a grocery in the future?
The developer of Tulsa Hills didn't allow Target enough space to open a Super Target because at one time there was supposed to be an upscale phase II (isn't there always) that was going to include a hotel, a whole foods type grocery store and the like. That upscale phase II is now Sam's Club and a car wash.
There also was supposed to be another development on the SW corner of US75 and 81st Street that was to include a Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market but the sign for that center is long gone and I suspect long dead.
The Walk at Tulsa Hills, on the SE corner of US75 and 81st Street still seems to be planned. It's supposed to have a Whole Foods style store, a gym and a large movie theater. There never has been a sign for that development but there has been a lot of dirt being moved at either the back of this development or the front of the new neighborhood that's been under construction for some time behind the planned Walk at Tulsa Hills.
The Reasor's in Jenks is only three miles away and is about the best grocery store in the whole metro area not actually named Whole Foods. Also about three miles away the small but Whole Foods style Green Acres Market that is part of actually upscale The Village on Main development in Jenks is under construction and will open in the late spring or early summer.
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Quote from: swake on September 19, 2011, 12:22:11 PM
That upscale phase II is now Sam's Club and a car wash.
That may be considered upscale in some places.
;D
Quote from: nathanm on September 19, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
It would probably help if they quit adding traffic lights. Just a few years ago it wasn't that terrible except during rush hour.
Get ready for one at 126th, 136th and possibly 146th
Quote from: Teatownclown on September 19, 2011, 12:20:00 PM
Yea, Reasors...111th and Memorial. And another "grocer not in this area currently" that's being negotiated further to the north.
I should've specified. In Tulsa Hills.
Quote from: Ibanez on September 19, 2011, 12:55:55 PM
Get ready for one at 126th, 136th and possibly 146th
There needs to be one at 136th. That is an incredibly dangerous place. Very frequent car wrecks, usually serious.
Quote from: ZYX on September 19, 2011, 05:25:24 PM
There needs to be one at 136th. That is an incredibly dangerous place. Very frequent car wrecks, usually serious.
What makes 136th more dangerous than 134th? Looking at Google Maps, there are a lot more houses connecting to 134th on the east side of Memorial. I only get that far south a few times a year, mostly when it's time to buy pepper plants from Carmichael's and Conrad's.
Yeah I know about 134th, I'm there every day, but at 134th there's a turn lane, not so at 136th. Also, I think a stoplight at 136th would help with traffic exiting at 134th.
South Bridge (neighborhood at 136th) did not think their location through.
Quote from: ZYX on September 19, 2011, 07:50:28 PM
Yeah I know about 134th, I'm there every day, but at 134th there's a turn lane, not so at 136th. Also, I think a stoplight at 136th would help with traffic exiting at 134th.
South Bridge (neighborhood at 136th) did not think their location through.
Rather than a traffic light at 136th , 136th should connect to 134th behind the businesses and get rid of the direct connection of 136th to Memorial. As you noted, the turn lane southbound on Memorial already exists. A southbound left turn arrow could easily be installed at 134th.
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 19, 2011, 08:48:51 PM
Rather than a traffic light at 136th , 136th should connect to 134th behind the businesses and get rid of the direct connection of 136th to Memorial. As you noted, the turn lane southbound on Memorial already exists. A southbound left turn arrow could easily be installed at 134th.
I agree with the southbound left turn arrow, but it's not possible to connect 136th to 134th behind the storage business because of retention ponds back there.
My ideal solution is tear down all of Southbridge, and bring back the awesome woods and bike trails that used to be back there. That used to be a fun place to go for a while.
Quote from: ZYX on September 19, 2011, 09:32:49 PM
I agree with the southbound left turn arrow, but it's not possible to connect 136th to 134th behind the storage business because of retention ponds back there.
My ideal solution is tear down all of Southbridge, and bring back the awesome woods and bike trails that used to be back there. That used to be a fun place to go for a while.
Retention ponds may actually make it easier. Build a low bridge across the area. There will be no interest in building there so no one could complain that there were lost business or housing opportunities.
An alternative is to have another 100+ year flood. Problem solved.
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 19, 2011, 08:48:51 PM
Rather than a traffic light at 136th , 136th should connect to 134th behind the businesses and get rid of the direct connection of 136th to Memorial. As you noted, the turn lane southbound on Memorial already exists. A southbound left turn arrow could easily be installed at 134th.
Not to hijack a thread and turn it into a discussion on stop lights, but I agree with you RA; instead of cluttering Memorial with lights, why not direct side traffic to the main lights. 111th back north to the turnpike is horrible. Put in a couple stop lights per mile, but that should be it on a main thoroughfare like Memorial.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming... hence one reason I don't mind Tulsa Hills; two entrances, two lights with side roads/lots feeding into one main feeder street.
Banner in the window confirms Freebirds
What's the status of the QuikTrip at near Tulsa Hills? When are they starting construction???
Dunno. Quiktrip usually sits on their property for a long while before building.
I do know Freebirds opens on Tues
Do you know what is going in next to freebirds in the new building they are still working on? Long time ago, before El Chico was leveled on 51st, the manager told me they had property over there and would likely rebuild, I keep watching. El Chico's not the best by any means, but every once in a while, it's my choice!
Quote from: tulsa_fan on November 11, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
Do you know what is going in next to freebirds in the new building they are still working on? Long time ago, before El Chico was leveled on 51st, the manager told me they had property over there and would likely rebuild, I keep watching. El Chico's not the best by any means, but every once in a while, it's my choice!
I'm assuming that's the announced Hideaway pizza. I could be wrong though
It is defintely a Hideaway ;D. On a side note, since it's opening I've always felt that a large indoor waterpark / hotel ( think great wolf lodge) would be a good fit in that area. That part of Tulsa is really taking off and with easy highway access I think it could be a real good destination place for this entire region ( especially since OKC has nothing like it ). As a father of three kids, it would be nice to have an option like that locally instead of having to travel long distances.
I LOVE Great Wolf Lodge, but I don't see them building one here because of their locations in Dallas and Kansas City.
A Great Wolf Lodge would be great at Expo Square after you demolish the baseball stadium and horse racing track.
Quote from: Stone on November 14, 2011, 10:53:25 AM
On a side note, since it's opening I've always felt that a large indoor waterpark / hotel ( think great wolf lodge) would be a good fit in that area. That part of Tulsa is really taking off and with easy highway access I think it could be a real good destination place for this entire region ( especially since OKC has nothing like it ). As a father of three kids, it would be nice to have an option like that locally instead of having to travel long distances.
I bet Frontier City would take exception to that comment. But you are right, there is nothing like it in OKC.
Silver Dollar City! And a cave, too!!
I bet Frontier City would take exception to that comment. But you are right, there is nothing like it in OKC.
Silver Dollar City! And a cave, too!!
No disrespect to FC, but they are nothing like Great Wolf lodge. Really, I'm suprised OKC hasn't built or tried to put something like GWL in Bricktown. My point is I would love to have the option to drive 2.4 miles for something like that rather than 100-600 miles!
Quote from: Stone on November 15, 2011, 03:52:46 PM
I bet Frontier City would take exception to that comment. But you are right, there is nothing like it in OKC.
Silver Dollar City! And a cave, too!!
No disrespect to FC, but they are nothing like Great Wolf lodge. Really, I'm suprised OKC hasn't built or tried to put something like GWL in Bricktown. My point is I would love to have the option to drive 2.4 miles for something like that rather than 100-600 miles!
I've often wished there was something for me to do in Branson area, so could be close to Silver Dollar City. Love the cave!!
Celebrity sports center in Denver was da bomb back in the day. No caves either.
Quote from: BKDotCom on October 13, 2011, 02:25:33 PM
Banner in the window confirms Freebirds
Open and is a pretty good eat!...
I was informed that a higher end grocery was coming to Tulsa Hills. Anyone got anything more than that?
Quote from: Townsend on January 12, 2012, 03:06:01 PM
I was informed that a higher end grocery was coming to Tulsa Hills. Anyone got anything more than that?
Supposedly there's going to be a new center just south of 81st from Tulsa Hills that will be anchored by said grocer and a movie theater.
there's a thread on here somewhere about it.
Quote from: BKDotCom on January 12, 2012, 03:23:24 PM
Supposedly there's going to be a new center just south of 81st from Tulsa Hills that will be anchored by said grocer and a movie theater.
there's a thread on here somewhere about it.
Ah, thanks. I've noticed dirt work in that location.
Quote from: Townsend on January 12, 2012, 03:24:23 PM
Ah, thanks. I've noticed dirt work in that location.
dirt work is for a retirement village that will be just south of the "The Walk at Tulsa Hills" shopping center
I found the previous thread.... it's this one! :P
Quote from: BKDotCom on January 12, 2012, 03:27:49 PM
dirt work is for a retirement village that will be just south of the "The Walk at Tulsa Hills" shopping center
I found the previous thread.... it's this one! :P
On the East side of 75 South of 81st?
Looks like they approved the site design for the new Tulsa Hills QuikTrip just before Christmas. Presumably they will just need to get signage and landscaping approved before they break ground. Long overdue for this area and will be most welcomed. Looks like there will be vehicle access from the stop light at Lowe's (Tulsa Hills Dr.) and also from the private drive a little further west.
Also, as anticipated this will be a new "Type 3" Design with multiple store entrances and a variety of food and beverage choices.
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Quote from: bacjz00 on January 29, 2012, 06:26:57 PM
Looks like they approved the site design for the new Tulsa Hills QuikTrip just before Christmas. Presumably they will just need to get signage and landscaping approved before they break ground. Long overdue for this area and will be most welcomed. Looks like there will be vehicle access from the stop light at Lowe's (Tulsa Hills Dr.) and also from the private drive a little further west.
Also, as anticipated this will be a new "Type 3" Design with multiple store entrances and a variety of food and beverage choices.
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I wonder now if they've completely abandoned the previous generation store for new stores for all markets, or just for Tulsa and KC (where another exists in Independence).
I heard that a Fish Daddy's was in the works for Tulsa Hills.
Quote from: AngieBrumley on January 30, 2012, 06:39:57 AM
I heard that a Fish Daddy's was in the works for Tulsa Hills.
I heard Bonefish Grill.....
Fish Daddy's seems like more of a fit for that area though......
Quote from: Ibanez on January 30, 2012, 01:48:44 PM
I heard Bonefish Grill.....
Fish Daddy's seems like more of a fit for that area though......
Now I'm questioning my memory of what I was told...is one of them owned by Charleston's? If so, that's the one.
Quote from: AngieBrumley on January 30, 2012, 02:56:37 PM
Now I'm questioning my memory of what I was told...is one of them owned by Charleston's? If so, that's the one.
I don't know about Fish Daddy's and Charleston's being related but Bone Fish is a national chain.
Quote from: swake on January 30, 2012, 04:50:57 PM
I don't know about Fish Daddy's and Charleston's being related but Bone Fish is a national chain.
Bonefish is owned by Outback. Fish Daddy's is a completely different company.
Seem's like I have heard that Fish Daddy's is part of the Cheddar's group. Or maybe vice versa. Guess I could look it up, but just not feeling it today...
Anyone have any new info or seen any news on the development on the south side of 81st? They have the road torn up and have been working on the water drainage outside of the Stonebrooke neighborhood. Just curious what the current projections are for the new area.
Thanks!
Any more rumors or upcoming developments for Tulsa Hills?
Wow, Let me first start off by saying Tulsa Hills was a brilliant idea. I lived in an apartment complex about 71st and west of 75 about six years ago. During this time, there was nothing there. I had always said how it would make for a great location for businesses to open because of the traffic. I had never imagined it would have boomed into what it is now. Every time I go by, a new store is being built or opened. With the success of all the businesses there already, the future looks bright for any current or future business in the Tulsa Hills.
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Quote from: ttown9 on April 17, 2012, 12:53:10 PM
With the success of all the businesses there already, the future looks bright for any current or future business in the Tulsa Hills.
Piatto Italian excluded
Does any of you know what the status is on the "Walk in Tulsa Hills"? I would love shop there when they open up.
Quote from: railfan955 on April 27, 2012, 10:36:21 AM
Does any of you know what the status is on the "Walk in Tulsa Hills"? I would love shop there when they open up.
Look for work to start within 3-6 months.
Ted's Cafe Escondido is coming to Tulsa Hills according to the Journal Record.
Quote from: EricGarcia on May 21, 2012, 07:58:50 PM
Ted's Cafe Escondido is coming to Tulsa Hills according to the Journal Record.
Meh. They're OK.
My only complaint is it can be hard to cross near Hiddon Tires near 81st. That end needs a cross walk or two and the side walks should... connect instead of ending randomly.
+1. Some people swear by Ted's, so I had to try it a couple of times. Perhaps I've spent too much time in El Paso, but I went to the Ted's in Norman and found it overpriced and unimpressive. There are some good, authentic Mexican places here in Tulsa, but it will be no surprise that the best aren't the chains. Find the places the Mexicans patronize and venture beyond Tex-Mex. They are out there, mostly but not solely in East Tulsa. For my taste, Ted's is the Rib Crib of Tex-Mex food. Edible, but boring, or as Hoss says, "meh." Whether it is Mexican, BBQ, Indian, Thai, or Vietnamese, I want the real thing with authentic ingredients. Even the odd ingredients. I don't think I will bother with Ted's any more than I have bothered with Cracker Barrel.
I am glad that Tulsa Hills is there and have spent a fair amount of money there, but chain restaurants are chain restaurants and have to be accepted as such.
Quote from: Hoss on May 21, 2012, 08:29:59 PM
Meh. They're OK.
Quote from: cynical on May 21, 2012, 11:00:19 PM
+1. Some people swear by Ted's, so I had to try it a couple of times. Perhaps I've spent too much time in El Paso, but I went to the Ted's in Norman and found it overpriced and unimpressive. There are some good, authentic Mexican places here in Tulsa, but it will be no surprise that the best aren't the chains. Find the places the Mexicans patronize and venture beyond Tex-Mex. They are out there, mostly but not solely in East Tulsa. For my taste, Ted's is the Rib Crib of Tex-Mex food. Edible, but boring, or as Hoss says, "meh." Whether it is Mexican, BBQ, Indian, Thai, or Vietnamese, I want the real thing with authentic ingredients. Even the odd ingredients. I don't think I will bother with Ted's any more than I have bothered with Cracker Barrel.
I am glad that Tulsa Hills is there and have spent a fair amount of money there, but chain restaurants are chain restaurants and have to be accepted as such.
Co worker of mine LOVED Ted's. It was a mood thing for me. Their salsa was kinda weird tasting. However, they had pretty good tortilla soup and their chips were always fresh. I never asked if they made them in house or not. Used to go about once a month until about January of 2011. Haven't been back since.
Used to be a fan. But since they expanded from the original in OKC, it hasn't been the same and the prices skyrocketed. When it was just the one, it was kind of like an experience going. It was like a bee hive of activity. You never had to wait for anything (once you were seated anyways).
They are the Rib Crib of Mexican. It is always consistent, never great. Which is something to say too.
See dirt work started across from Sams Club.... whats going in there? Is that the Ted's location?
Ted's - for the money - blech. Compadre's has them beat by far. Except for the chips, Taco Bueno has them beat for the price difference....
Tough crowd
Quote from: Vision 2025 on September 28, 2012, 09:46:34 AM
Tough crowd
Picky eaters...worse than a bunch of dam kids....
Quote from: RitzLondon on April 28, 2012, 11:39:41 AM
Look for work to start within 3-6 months.
It's been 6 months.
Re: "The Walk at Tulsa Hills"... the development that's supposed to happen south of Tulsa Hills : http://www.thewalkintulsahills.com/
Back to the Mexican food for a minute...if Compadre's doesn't impress, there used to be a little hole in the wall place on Memorial, about 44th street, east side of road in that little shopping center. South of the car lots. It was very authentic then, and very good. I could tell, 'cause SWMBO didn't like it and she is a big Tex-Mex fan, so if she doesn't like Mexican, I know it is authentic. I liked it a lot.
And OKC has several that are very real. One I have been to a couple of times is in a little mercado on 29th street, about Western avenue. El Michoacana. You must have some minimal Spanish speaking skills or go with someone who does. And the neighborhood is kind of dicey - when I stay in OKC, I can occasionally hear gunfire from that direction (west if where I usually stay) as well as east - Valley Brook area - 'nuff said....
The food is exceptional and absolutely real - no Tex-Mex allowed. And very reasonably priced.
Don't know what the name means, but I am pretty sure it isn't a chain, but I have seen that name on places in other states, too, so it must be pretty common and/or generic.
Their verde chili sauce is as good as El Barrio in Phoenix airport.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 27, 2012, 09:03:19 PM
Back to the Mexican food for a minute...if Compadre's doesn't impress, there used to be a little hole in the wall place on Memorial, about 44th street, east side of road in that little shopping center. South of the car lots. It was very authentic then, and very good. I could tell, 'cause SWMBO didn't like it and she is a big Tex-Mex fan, so if she doesn't like Mexican, I know it is authentic. I liked it a lot.
A Monterreys used to be in that area. I liked it too.
Quote from: BKDotCom on October 27, 2012, 06:16:21 PM
It's been 6 months.
Re: "The Walk at Tulsa Hills"... the development that's supposed to happen south of Tulsa Hills : http://www.thewalkintulsahills.com/
I bet it's hard to get financing when the cinema/anchor is bankrupt....
Quote from: guido911 on October 28, 2012, 01:22:48 AM
A Monterreys used to be in that area. I liked it too.
Monterrey's was ok for Tex-Mex. That was a little south of this place, on west side of road in that big shopping center at 51st. Haven't been by there in a long time - are they gone then??
Monterey's is on the west side in Fontana, still there. On the east side was South Of the Border which moved to the spirit bankruptcypalooza at 103rd & Memorial.
Place is gone. Look's like it's a Subway now from Google earth. That may not be there now, either...
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 29, 2012, 04:45:20 PM
Place is gone. Look's like it's a Subway now from Google earth. That may not be there now, either...
Monterey's Tex Mex Cafe
4920 South Memorial Drive, Tulsa, OK
(918) 627-3755
montereys.com (http://www.montereys.com/locations/oklahoma)
Google Earth (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=monterey%27s+tulsa&ll=36.092945,-95.886955&spn=0.216669,0.307274&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&fb=1&gl=us&hq=monterey%27s&hnear=Tulsa,+Oklahoma&t=m&z=12&layer=c&cbll=36.093083,-95.886778&panoid=SKhGHDpkraqFaNELk6GJMw&cbp=12,184.72,,0,0.34)
edit: I think you're referring to a non Monterey / non South o Border place
Quote from: BKDotCom on October 29, 2012, 06:38:37 PM
Monterey's Tex Mex Cafe
4920 South Memorial Drive, Tulsa, OK
(918) 627-3755
montereys.com (http://www.montereys.com/locations/oklahoma)
Google Earth (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=monterey%27s+tulsa&ll=36.092945,-95.886955&spn=0.216669,0.307274&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&fb=1&gl=us&hq=monterey%27s&hnear=Tulsa,+Oklahoma&t=m&z=12&layer=c&cbll=36.093083,-95.886778&panoid=SKhGHDpkraqFaNELk6GJMw&cbp=12,184.72,,0,0.34)
edit: I think you're referring to a non Monterey / non South o Border place
Yeah, I am talking about a little place that used to be on the east side - apparently gone now. It was where Subway is, north of 46th street a couple blocks.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on October 28, 2012, 08:47:31 AM
Monterrey's was ok for Tex-Mex. That was a little south of this place, on west side of road in that big shopping center at 51st. Haven't been by there in a long time - are they gone then??
probably delay a lil while longer. stay tuned. :)
Anyone else notice the southern end of Tulsa Hills is starting to resemble an industrial park?
Buildings with no windows, no trees, automotive services. Might as well start putting up high chain link fences with barbed wire on top to separate the businesses.
How about those new-ish apartments across 75 from Tulsa Hills? There's no access from there to the stores, is there?
It's developments like that that give suburbia a bad name. Right next to various places to shop, eat and drink, but I don't think anyone has ever walked it due to the extremely hostile built environment.
Quote from: TheTed on December 07, 2012, 12:42:15 PM
How about those new-ish apartments across 75 from Tulsa Hills? There's no access from there to the stores, is there?
It's developments like that that give suburbia a bad name. Right next to various places to shop, eat and drink, but I don't think anyone has ever walked it due to the extremely hostile built environment.
Uh... I think by definition, suburbia has poor walkability. Heck, Tulsa Hills on it's own isn't very walkable (ironic, it's not very drivable either).
Any leads on new development for a Jimmy John's to go? We have the market but are looking for a spot in the area.
Not sure which ones are yours, but kudos to the 71st Street location by Woodland Hills for actually being fast. For a restaurant that advertises speed, the Brookside and 21st/Yale locations are still a bit slow.
Not extremely slow, but when your ad campaign is 'subs so fast you'll freak,' you better move a little more quickly.
Quote from: TheTed on December 08, 2012, 05:35:25 PM
Not sure which ones are yours, but kudos to the 71st Street location by Woodland Hills for actually being fast. For a restaurant that advertises speed, the Brookside and 21st/Yale locations are still a bit slow.
Not extremely slow, but when your ad campaign is 'subs so fast you'll freak,' you better move a little more quickly.
Brookside is a separate guy. The rest of the market from here on out will be owned by our group of guys. I run the one in Broken Arrow but am moving downtown this spring. Can't wait.
And the 71st store is ran by a guy that finshed 3rd in the national sandwich competition out of 1600 stores. You won't find a faster sandwich around than his line produces.
Did we really need a Hibdon, a Jiffy Lube, and now a Discount Tire all within a stones throw of one another?
Wasted space.
Quote from: Stanley1 on January 23, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
Did we really need a Hibdon, a Jiffy Lube, and now a Discount Tire all within a stones throw of one another?
Wasted space.
That area was doomed as soon as SAM's was allowed to build an ugly wall facing it across the street and a fueling station on the same side of the street.
Had to visit the Lowe's out there on Sunday. Took the kids with me so the wife could get some things done around the house.
I can't believe how busy that center is. Lowe's parking lot was almost completely full, as was Petsmart. We ended up driving out on the 81st exit because traffic in the poorly designed access on 71st was backed up through the complex. Sam's was also packed and the car wash had a healthy line too.
I wish the parking situation in that center had been better addressed. Turning in and out of lots to get where you need to go is a nightmare, however business is obviously very good.
Quote from: Gaspar on January 23, 2013, 12:10:17 PM
Had to visit the Lowe's out there on Sunday. Took the kids with me so the wife could get some things done around the house.
I can't believe how busy that center is. Lowe's parking lot was almost completely full, as was Petsmart. We ended up driving out on the 81st exit because traffic in the poorly designed access on 71st was backed up through the complex. Sam's was also packed and the car wash had a healthy line too.
I wish the parking situation in that center had been better addressed. Turning in and out of lots to get where you need to go is a nightmare, however business is obviously very good.
The parking lots are misleading. The SAM's lot is small. Even when the lot is full, the store isn't busy at all. Especially compared to the one on Sheridan.
Horribly designed parking lots.
Quote from: Teatownclown on October 28, 2012, 01:34:12 AM
I bet it's hard to get financing when the cinema/anchor is bankrupt....
The developer behind this project has changed. It is now part of a development by Parkes Development Group.... under the umbrella of Parkes Companies out of Tennessee.
http://www.parkescompanies.com/ (http://www.parkescompanies.com/)
Probably look for a press release sometime this Summer/Fall would be my guess.
Quote from: RitzLondon on February 09, 2013, 11:15:49 PM
The developer behind this project has changed. It is now part of a development by Parkes Development Group.... under the umbrella of Parkes Companies out of Tennessee.
http://www.parkescompanies.com/ (http://www.parkescompanies.com/)
Probably look for a press release sometime this Summer/Fall would be my guess.
With this on their front page, I don't have a lot of confidence.
(http://www.parkescompanies.com/media/k2/items/cache/c1011ef61ed9937904f4938c63d014ea_XL.jpg)
Yes, that's a Circuit City
(specifically, Raleigh, NC - opened Jan 2007, now a Big Lots (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Big+Lots+near+3340+Cypress+Plantation+Trail,+Raleigh,+NC&hl=en&ll=35.871258,-78.58298&spn=0.87801,1.783905&sll=35.852109,-78.528031&sspn=0.006861,0.013937&hq=Big+Lots&hnear=New+Cypress+Cove,+St+Matthews,+Wake,+North+Carolina+27616&t=m&z=10&layer=c&cbll=35.871258,-78.58298&panoid=3dkcmYZB4v-wPV7RMCpCiA&cbp=12,261.62,,0,0.4)).
Multi-Million Dollar SW Tulsa Retail Development AnnouncedQuoteMayor Dewey Bartlett is calling the finalized plans for a large retail development in southwest Tulsa, a major victory for the city of Tulsa.
The Walk at Tulsa Hills was announced late this afternoon at city hall.
It will be a brand new, $32.5 million development, expected to go in around the south 81st Street/Highway 75 corridor, adjacent to the existing Tulsa Hills shopping center.
From construction to completion, Bartlett says, the retail destination should create over 1,000 jobs.
The city is also looking forward to what they say will bring in around $1.2 million dollars in sales tax revenue.
City councilor Jeannie Cue expressed her excitement over the announcement today, saying, "We're going to have people from all over northeastern Oklahoma and that's the big thing, we're getting sales tax from all of the state, so I want to thank them for coming to Tulsa and we just can't wait to have that grand opening."
No word yet on exactly which retailers will be occupying that new space, as those plans have not been finalized.
Nashville-based Parkes Development Group LLC will be the developers in charge of the project.
http://www.ktul.com/story/23899469/multi-million-dollar-sw-tulsa-retail-development-announced
Mexican, Movies and Sporting Goods.
I hope it's more of a pedestrian-friendly place.
Quote from: Townsend on November 07, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
I hope it's more of a pedestrian-friendly place.
The developer is claiming this will be pedestrian-friendly. It would be pretty stupid to call it "The Walk At Tulsa Hills" if it resembled that sprawling nightmare to the north of it.
Quote from: Townsend on November 07, 2013, 08:38:27 AM
I hope it's more of a pedestrian-friendly place.
This was the original plan back in 2011. So very walkable! I can't wait to walk through all that parking! ...Let's hope plans have changed for the better since then.
(http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16758.0;attach=1176)
I believe it has changed since this rendering. From what I heard at the dist 2 meeting on Tuesday, I understand the theater will be on the Maybelle side (much to the chagrin of the homeowners).
Quote from: dsjeffries on November 07, 2013, 09:24:46 AM
This was the original plan back in 2011. So very walkable! I can't wait to walk through all that parking! ...Let's hope plans have changed for the better since then.
Looks like they have changed for the worse actually:
(http://kotv.images.worldnow.com/images/23898522_BG3.jpg)
I remember a walkable shopping center. Southland. It was surrounded by parking but resembled an open air market with lots of landscaping. Kind of a compact Utica Square. Then they remodeled it when the Woodland Hills enclosed mega-mall concept arrived. So popular they actually hired off duty police to direct traffic during the HOLIDAY season.
All talk and no walk.
(unless walking to/from your car counts)
Doesn't all of the sales tax from Tulsa Hills and "The Walk @ Tulsa Hills" get diverted to Jenks School district?
Quote from: carltonplace on November 07, 2013, 10:51:45 AM
Doesn't all of the sales tax from Tulsa Hills and "The Walk @ Tulsa Hills" get diverted to Jenks School district?
School Districts get no sales tax $.
The property has increased in value and surrounding properties will also increase in value. Then Jenks schools will get a nice bump.
I am a regional guy. Tulsa can capture sales tax, Jenks can get property tax, and the county and state can get a share of new taxes as well.
At least in theory.
Quote from: Vision 2025 on November 07, 2013, 10:55:21 AM
School Districts get no sales tax $.
Ah, it was a property tax TIF which is why Jenks Schools asked to be excluded.
Quote from: RecycleMichael on November 07, 2013, 11:02:02 AM
The property has increased in value and surrounding properties will also increase in value. Then Jenks schools will get a nice bump.
I am a regional guy. Tulsa can capture sales tax, Jenks can get property tax, and the county and state can get a share of new taxes as well.
At least in theory.
Read my lips...NO NEW TAXES!
(http://linapps.s3.amazonaws.com/linapps/photomojo/wwlp.com/photos/2012/10/g4560-top-presidential-debate-moments/91374-1988-read-my-lips-no-new-taxes-e3640.jpg)
Quote from: Conan71 on September 15, 2011, 07:07:01 PM
No, that was Atomic Burrito and it's now a Qdoba. FAIK, the 37th & Peoria location is their first one in Tulsa. I believe they are out of Fayetteville. I figured it would be full of FAIL with a name like that, but I usually grab a 'rito once a week there. Rice & beans are great cycling fuel. Their salsa is pretty good as well.
Zombie reply, but just noticed this thread outlasted the aforementioned restaurant.
Any ideas on what is going in near the Jiffy Lube and Carpet place? They are moving a lot of dirt, and getting ready to build, it appears.
Also heard a Raising Canes chicken might be going in some where?
Quote from: Stanley1 on December 30, 2013, 04:00:12 PM
Any ideas on what is going in near the Jiffy Lube and Carpet place? They are moving a lot of dirt, and getting ready to build, it appears.
Also heard a Raising Canes chicken might be going in some where?
Next to Jiffy.... is Mathis Brother owned.... Ashley Furniture store.
Haven't heard anything about Canes.... unless they are going to be part of the Walk in Tulsa Hills.
Quote from: Stanley1 on December 30, 2013, 04:00:12 PM
Any ideas on what is going in near the Jiffy Lube and Carpet place? They are moving a lot of dirt, and getting ready to build, it appears.
Also heard a Raising Canes chicken might be going in some where?
In the meantime, there is a Cane's at the Mall....if you gotta have a short term "fix".
And Broken Arrow.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on January 07, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
In the meantime, there is a Cane's at the Mall....if you gotta have a short term "fix".
And Broken Arrow.
.. and 48th & Yale
Quote from: BKDotCom on January 07, 2014, 10:28:26 PM
.. and 48th & Yale
Yay, team! Didn't know about that one. But it's kind of outside my traffic pattern.