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Not At My Table - Political Discussions => Local & State Politics => Topic started by: sgrizzle on September 09, 2011, 02:30:18 PM

Title: City Council District 1
Post by: sgrizzle on September 09, 2011, 02:30:18 PM
Incumbent Jack Henderson faces Twan Jones and Jason Trent in a winner-take-all primary. Thoughts?
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Gaspar on September 09, 2011, 02:38:59 PM
Would Twan's middle name happen to be Tremayne?

Would Jason's middle name happen to be Vonzell?

Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: sgrizzle on September 09, 2011, 02:58:15 PM
That's the right middle initials. Not sure.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Gaspar on September 09, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
Quote from: sgrizzle on September 09, 2011, 02:58:15 PM
That's the right middle initials. Not sure.

Well then, I'm sure they will be no obstacle for Henderson.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2011, 03:18:54 PM
It's time for Henderson to move on.  For some reason that district thinks he's the only person looking out for their best interest, yet they don't realize how limited he is and what an anathema he seems to be with the rest of the council at times.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: rdj on September 09, 2011, 04:19:59 PM
As a resident of District One it is maddening.  It's like picking the best of the worst.  Back Jack the incumbent, go with a community organizer or a hotel clerk?   You tell me the intelligent choice?

Jack is an old school ghetto politician.  His power comes from keeping his constituents down.  If they rise up and improve themselves they'll realize they don't need him anymore.  It's sad.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2011, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: rdj on September 09, 2011, 04:19:59 PM
As a resident of District One it is maddening.  It's like picking the best of the worst.  Back Jack the incumbent, go with a community organizer or a hotel clerk?   You tell me the intelligent choice?

Jack is an old school ghetto politician.  His power comes from keeping his constituents down.  If they rise up and improve themselves they'll realize they don't need him anymore.  It's sad.

Yes, Hender$on does seem to come from the Jack$on/$harpton $chool of politic$
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: rdj on September 09, 2011, 04:26:05 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 09, 2011, 04:22:35 PM
Yes, Hender$on does seem to come from the Jack$on/$harpton $chool of politic$

Thankfully Tul$a Bi$Pac helped keep him in office.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Gaspar on September 09, 2011, 04:29:10 PM
Quote from: rdj on September 09, 2011, 04:19:59 PM
As a resident of District One it is maddening.  It's like picking the best of the worst.  Back Jack the incumbent, go with a community organizer or a hotel clerk?   You tell me the intelligent choice?

Jack is an old school ghetto politician.  His power comes from keeping his constituents down.  If they rise up and improve themselves they'll realize they don't need him anymore.  It's sad.

Unfortunately BOTH of his opponents have skeletons that he can easily bring forth during a debate.  Sure, everyone deserves a second chance, but politics is a microscope.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Conan71 on September 09, 2011, 04:31:20 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on September 09, 2011, 02:38:59 PM
Would Twan's middle name happen to be Tremayne?

Would Jason's middle name happen to be Vonzell?



I see what you did there.  Snooping OSCN?
Title: Re: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Gaspar on September 09, 2011, 07:16:37 PM
:-)

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Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: SXSW on September 12, 2011, 10:41:53 PM
District 1 needs a Brady Heights or Reservoir Hill challenger against Henderson IMO. 
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: rdj on September 13, 2011, 10:11:23 AM
Quote from: SXSW on September 12, 2011, 10:41:53 PM
District 1 needs a Brady Heights or Reservoir Hill challenger against Henderson IMO. 

The problem is Brady Heights and Reservoir Hill are two very small ponds (bordering on mirages in some minds) in a big desert.

Historically, to win district one (or any political office that represents the area) you've needed to be a democrat, have a good relationship with the "pastoral" figures in the community and be able to show you can "relate" to the neighborhood.  Unfortunately, the people that are "gentrifying" these two neighborhoods don't fit all three of those criteria.

I had hoped beyond hope that district four would someone cut north of downtown and encompass LL Tisdale to Cincinnati all the way to at least Pine in the same way it took over Owen Park.  Due to the redistricting laws that will not happen for many, many years, if ever.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: AquaMan on September 13, 2011, 11:30:08 AM
That would have been some torturous gerrymandering had it happened. Though, I agree with your assessment that those two areas are more like small ponds near a lake. You would  have a hard time with a leadership emerging from those two ponds that had anything but adjacent geographical location in common with each other. North Tulsa loves its pastoral connections.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: SXSW on September 13, 2011, 05:51:48 PM
Quote from: AquaMan on September 13, 2011, 11:30:08 AM
That would have been some torturous gerrymandering had it happened. Though, I agree with your assessment that those two areas are more like small ponds near a lake. You would  have a hard time with a leadership emerging from those two ponds that had anything but adjacent geographical location in common with each other. North Tulsa loves its pastoral connections.

And unfortunately that is what is holding that part of the city back minus the bright spots of Brady Heights and Reservoir Hill, and Gilcrease Hills to an extent.
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: AquaMan on September 13, 2011, 06:49:40 PM
I have found that most folks in North Tulsa that have a choice to move somewhere else, won't. They are comfortable there. It is like West Tulsa in that regard. They love their churches, and schools. Its only a small part of that area that causes them grief.

The only leader that would help them from Brady, Owen and the Hill would be someone who shares those passions. Find one and he/she would be gold. Unfortunately, the gentrifying folks seem to like private schools, running paths, Buddism and Whole Foods!
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: sgrizzle on September 14, 2011, 08:22:07 AM
Aren't those areas in D4 now?
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: Conan71 on September 14, 2011, 08:39:27 AM
Quote from: AquaMan on September 13, 2011, 06:49:40 PM
I have found that most folks in North Tulsa that have a choice to move somewhere else, won't. They are comfortable there. It is like West Tulsa in that regard. They love their churches, and schools. Its only a small part of that area that causes them grief.

The only leader that would help them from Brady, Owen and the Hill would be someone who shares those passions. Find one and he/she would be gold. Unfortunately, the gentrifying folks seem to like private schools, running paths, Buddism and Whole Foods!

Oh dear God, not Whole Foods!!!
Title: Re: City Council District 1
Post by: AquaMan on September 14, 2011, 09:25:06 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 14, 2011, 08:39:27 AM
Oh dear God, not Whole Foods!!!

Yes! Whole F***ing Foods!

And those little pint size cars that look like the butt end was cleavered off. That stuff don't roll north of downtown except in the gentry areas.