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Title: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
I've got several rabbits hanging out under a pergola in the backyard.  They were probably cared for/fed by the previous homeowners.

I'm not that guy.

My dogs are going apes**t trying to kill them and I don't want to have to put another dog through knee surgery from chasing the damned things.

Privacy fence that blocks them from leaving easily while chased and a pool which means I close and lock gates so as not to invite a bad occurance from a neighborhood child.

Who's got a plan/advice for me?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on August 23, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
Quote from: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
I've got several rabbits hanging out under a pergola in the backyard.  They were probably cared for/fed by the previous homeowners.

I'm not that guy.

My dogs are going apes**t trying to kill them and I don't want to have to put another dog through knee surgery from chasing the damned things.

Privacy fence that blocks them from leaving easily while chased and a pool which means I close and lock gates so as not to invite a bad occurance from a neighborhood child.

Who's got a plan/advice for me?

Thanks in advance.

See if you can find someone who can trap them and transport them away like the Skunk Whisperer.  If they are used to your back yard, chances are they might dig or otherwise manage to claw or gnaw the pickets to get back in if you simply got them on the other side of the fence.

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 09:57:54 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on August 23, 2011, 09:46:27 AM
See if you can find someone who can trap them and transport them away like the Skunk Whisperer.  If they are used to your back yard, chances are they might dig or otherwise manage to claw or gnaw the pickets to get back in if you simply got them on the other side of the fence.


I've left a message for the Skunk whisperer.  I've checked with our wildlife dept.  I'm looking into repellents.

I had hoped they'd leave once they realized their lives of tranquility had ended with 2 natural born killers moving in.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: rdj on August 23, 2011, 10:24:57 AM
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Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on August 23, 2011, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 09:57:54 AM
I've left a message for the Skunk whisperer.  I've checked with our wildlife dept.  I'm looking into repellents.

I had hoped they'd leave once they realized their lives of tranquility had ended with 2 natural born killers moving in.

I think it becomes a sport to them at that point.  The rabbits just laugh at Butch since they are bigger. 
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: swake on August 23, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
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Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Hoss on August 23, 2011, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: swake on August 23, 2011, 10:49:46 AM
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Wabbit season!
Duck season!

...wait, what?
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 23, 2011, 11:23:02 AM
dems good eatin
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: TheArtist on August 23, 2011, 01:30:52 PM
 Well I am sure you can find some way to trap the dogs and send them to a shelter, or indeed, the bb gun solution might work on them as well.   
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: DTowner on August 23, 2011, 02:53:39 PM
A migrating fox came through our mid-town neighborhood and the rabbit problem disappeared - a "circle of life" sort of thing.  Unfortunately, the fox moved on and the rabbits are coming back. 

Home Depot used to sell a product called "Rabbit Scat" that protected plants from ravenous rabbit appetites.  Perhaps you can use it to create an entire barrier to your property.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 02:55:22 PM
Skunk Whisperer has already been by and I'm moving onto the next step of scooting the varmints over to the neighbor's property.

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: rdj on August 23, 2011, 03:07:36 PM
I don't mind the wabbits, its the wascally moles I can't get rid of!
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: sauerkraut on August 23, 2011, 03:10:13 PM
Like the other posts say a trap seems to be the best way to go. Sometimes farmers use poison bait to get rid of them. That is about your only choices.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 03:28:34 PM
Quote from: sauerkraut on August 23, 2011, 03:10:13 PM
Like the other posts say a trap seems to be the best way to go. Sometimes farmers use poison bait to get rid of them. That is about your only choices.

You must skip over posts.

Dead and dying rabbits under decking is not a choice.  Many of those poisons cause the rabbits to bleed internally so profusely they'll actually leave trails of blood as they drag themselves under.  Not what I'm going for here.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: jne on August 23, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
You definitely do not want your dog to eat a poisoned rabbit.

Now if anyone has any mole tips, I'm listening.  I've always heard to get rid of the moles you get rid of the grubs, I've yet to ever find a grub.... I am trying to avoid poisons - so much so that I'm currently trying to get him with one of these medieval looking mechanical execution devices.  No luck so far.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: AquaMan on August 23, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
Quote from: jne on August 23, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
You definitely do not want your dog to eat a poisoned rabbit.

Now if anyone has any mole tips, I'm listening.  I've always heard to get rid of the moles you get rid of the grubs, I've yet to ever find a grub.... I am trying to avoid poisons - so much so that I'm currently trying to get him with one of these medieval looking mechanical execution devices.  No luck so far.

I've tried a lot, including the mechanicals. Nothing seemed to work. They really irritate my little Australian Silky who is a ratter by trade. I came across the Skunk Whisperer at the store one day and he told me the only real way is to have the worst yard on the block! The good lawns attract the bugs and grubs and that attracts the moles. I don't have a sprinkler system so, sure enough, since the drought hit hard the yard is suffering and the moles have moved to greener pastures.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Gaspar on August 23, 2011, 04:13:16 PM
I know how to get rid of rabbits. 

I have a recipe!
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Ed W on August 23, 2011, 05:47:37 PM
You want repellent?  HERE'S YOUR REPELLENT!

(http://www.theunitedfest.com/images/poster_bikerfox.jpg)

It just seemed like a good idea at the time.....
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: custosnox on August 23, 2011, 06:06:35 PM
Quote from: Ed W on August 23, 2011, 05:47:37 PM
You want repellent?  HERE'S YOUR REPELLENT!

(http://www.theunitedfest.com/images/poster_bikerfox.jpg)

It just seemed like a good idea at the time.....
gee, thanks. Now it's going to take all night to get that image stain bleached out of my head.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: jne on August 23, 2011, 03:34:02 PM
You definitely do not want your dog to eat a poisoned rabbit.

Now if anyone has any mole tips, I'm listening.  I've always heard to get rid of the moles you get rid of the grubs, I've yet to ever find a grub.... I am trying to avoid poisons - so much so that I'm currently trying to get him with one of these medieval looking mechanical execution devices.  No luck so far.

Let me know if you find a way to kill those plant destroying pests.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: AquaMan on August 23, 2011, 03:51:45 PM
I came across the Skunk Whisperer at the store one day and he told me the only real way is to have the worst yard on the block! The good lawns attract the bugs and grubs and that attracts the moles.

Doesn't work for me.  Mole tunnels in the dust.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: AquaMan on August 24, 2011, 09:08:18 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 23, 2011, 06:32:16 PM
Doesn't work for me.  Mole tunnels in the dust.

Country moles eh? Around these parts (inner city) its easier to just move along to a better yard. Out there they just adjust I guess.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 09:36:14 AM
Quote from: custosnox on August 23, 2011, 06:06:35 PM
gee, thanks. Now it's going to take all night to get that image stain bleached out of my head.

So, you have that image in your head all night?
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: custosnox on August 24, 2011, 09:58:43 AM
Quote from: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 09:36:14 AM
So, you have that image in your head all night?
Somehow I managed to get it out.  Pre-teens are good for blanking ones mind.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 10:01:35 AM
Spraying deterrent under the decking today.  Wait 3 days and install barriers.

If that doesn't work, give the dogs a prybar and teach them to use it without opposable thumbs.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on August 24, 2011, 10:16:33 AM
Quote from: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 10:01:35 AM
Spraying deterrent under the decking today.  Wait 3 days and install barriers.

If that doesn't work, give the dogs a prybar and teach them to use it without opposable thumbs.

If that doesn't work, we may still have a coon trap here at my shop you can borrow (I work amongst hillbillies).  Lemme know if you wind up needing it. 
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 10:20:45 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on August 24, 2011, 10:16:33 AM
If that doesn't work, we may still have a coon trap here at my shop you can borrow (I work amongst hillbillies).  Lemme know if you wind up needing it. 

I appreciate the offer.

Apparently rabbits are one of the hardest to use a trap with.  You have to make the place they've decided to call home unfriendly.  I like the structure so no arson.   Not a fan of snakes so scratch those.  The dogs can't get to them so pass on that.  No poisons in the back yard with kids coming over and dogs using the yard. 

Looks like we make it smell strange to them and block them from coming back.

Stupid rabbits.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on August 24, 2011, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 10:20:45 AM
Stupid rabbits.

I appreciate your problem but...  "Stupid rabbits"?  Who's winning at the moment.

(Yes, I am losing to "Stupid moles".
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on August 24, 2011, 11:55:14 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 24, 2011, 11:54:39 AM
I appreciate your problem but...  "Stupid rabbits"?  Who's winning at the moment.

(Yes, I am losing to "Stupid moles".

Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 24, 2011, 11:54:39 AM
I appreciate your problem but...  "Stupid rabbits"?  Who's winning at the moment.

(Yes, I am losing to "Stupid moles".

In fairness, this just started and the bunnies are entrenched.

I'll let you know how it goes as the issue plays out.

Hopefully it doesn't lead to me getting arrested for illegally burning a structure in South Tulsa.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Teatownclown on August 24, 2011, 12:43:14 PM
A similar issue:

http://vimeo.com/4949853  ;)

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 24, 2011, 01:31:43 PM
Or just relax and enjoy the fact that you have a little tiny wildlife sanctuary.  They will likely move out sometime during winter.

One thing I have done in the past with a storage building situation.  Put barrier around the entire thing except for one opening that faced the house.  They could only go in and out through that one place, and they didn't seem to like coming out right where they could be so easily seen.  They left.



Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 01:41:48 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 24, 2011, 01:31:43 PM
Or just relax and enjoy the fact that you have a little tiny wildlife sanctuary.  They will likely move out sometime during winter.


I'm told you're wrong on this one from the previous owners and from every wildlife company I talked to yesterday.  They do too much damage for my taste and I don't run a wildlife sanctuary.  It'd be a killing field and I'm not up for another 2 months of torn K9 ACL re-cooping.

QuoteOne thing I have done in the past with a storage building situation.  Put barrier around the entire thing except for one opening that faced the house.  They could only go in and out through that one place, and they didn't seem to like coming out right where they could be so easily seen.  They left.

The barrier idea is the way I'm going once they're evicted.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Teatownclown on August 24, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
I just had a red fox pass by my window....they crawl down the creek channels. He was looking hot and skinny. I almost mistaken it for a dog and did a double take. I used to have coyotes come near when I was putting the trash out but mid town south has never been the same since climate change progressed so far.... >:(
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on August 24, 2011, 03:00:04 PM
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 24, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
I just had Redd Foxx pass by my window...

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_pG6oYgKyo5s/TUkPcvlLQuI/AAAAAAAAAVI/JJHV9aEpV3I/s1600/fgsanford.jpg)

LAMONT!!!
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Teatownclown on August 24, 2011, 05:37:49 PM
Keep it up and I will have to add you to my list of stalkers....

I'm coming Elizabeth.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on August 24, 2011, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: Teatownclown on August 24, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
I used tIo have coyotes come near when I was putting the trash out but mid town south has never been the same since climate change progressed so far.... >:(

The climate change from woods to houses?
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 25, 2011, 12:03:36 PM
Quote from: Townsend on August 24, 2011, 01:41:48 PM
I'm told you're wrong on this one from the previous owners and from every wildlife company I talked to yesterday.  They do too much damage for my taste and I don't run a wildlife sanctuary.  It'd be a killing field and I'm not up for another 2 months of torn K9 ACL re-cooping.

The barrier idea is the way I'm going once they're evicted.

Ours come and go in a cycle that seems to be about two years.  i.e. for a couple years we will have a female and 3 or 4 batches of babies over a year and a half or two, then they move down the street (2 blocks or so) for a year or two.

You mean you can't control your dogs??  (Yeah, I know...I had beagles in the past, and they are the ultimate rabbit hunting dog.)


Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: custosnox on August 25, 2011, 01:19:10 PM
I can send ya my pup for a while.  He is a Shepard/Keeshond mix, and loves wabbit.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 25, 2011, 01:28:36 PM
Nope.  Gonna keep the rabbit.  And the squirrels.  And the possum.  And the raccoon.  And the doves, grackels, and red-tail hawk that has taken up residence in the neighborhood.

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 25, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
I have heard that human hair is a rabbit repellent. You can get a bag from any salon.

I have also read that black pepper is a good deterrent.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: custosnox on August 25, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
Quote from: RecycleMichael on August 25, 2011, 01:35:24 PM
I have heard that human hair is a rabbit repellent. You can get a bag from any salon.

I heard that was deer... and I heard it form the movie "The Rookie"
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on August 25, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on August 25, 2011, 01:28:36 PM
Nope.  Gonna keep the rabbit.  And the squirrels.  And the possum.  And the raccoon.  And the doves, grackels, and red-tail hawk that has taken up residence in the neighborhood.

I like birds but grackels are a pain.  They poop purple poop all over the place in mass quantities.  I would like a red-tail hawk.  Once in a while I hear an Owl.  I haven't gotten a good enough look to see what kind.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: dbacks fan on August 25, 2011, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: custosnox on August 25, 2011, 01:44:35 PM
I heard that was deer... and I heard it form the movie "The Rookie"

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309/kallsop2/P08-05-11_19-421.jpg)


Need some deer hair you say?

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: custosnox on August 25, 2011, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: dbacks fan on August 25, 2011, 06:33:35 PM
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309/kallsop2/P08-05-11_19-421.jpg)


Need some deer hair you say?


no no, the deer are supposed to be driven off by human hair.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: dbacks fan on August 25, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: custosnox on August 25, 2011, 07:51:45 PM
no no, the deer are supposed to be driven off by human hair.

Sorry, my bad.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: carltonplace on August 26, 2011, 10:19:43 AM
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Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 29, 2011, 08:26:17 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 25, 2011, 06:27:46 PM
I like birds but grackels are a pain.  They poop purple poop all over the place in mass quantities.  I would like a red-tail hawk.  Once in a while I hear an Owl.  I haven't gotten a good enough look to see what kind.

I forgot about the owl!!  We have one that visits, but doesn't stay all the time.  Freaks out SWMBO big time!!  I love the sound!

Purple is usually just from mulberries.  Eliminate all the mulberries for 5 miles and no more purple poop.

SWMBO was watching the resident mourning dove family last year feeding one of the babies who had just left the nest the day before.  While watching, the hawk swooped down and grabbed the baby and flew off with it - probably to feed her kids.  She called me, very upset.  We had the "circle of life" talk for a while.  She loved, and still loves the hawk, but still a little pissed that she ate 'our baby' dove.

I'm thinking that the young dove was probably the equivalent of a teenager.  And as such, maybe that was kind of a relief to the parents.  I can remember times when a very large hawk may have been a welcome diversion with the kids!  (And if any of you kids happen to read this... just kidding!!  Sort of.)






Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 10:42:30 AM

Well The Skunk Whisperer didn't work out.

Oh well.  We've got rabbits.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 10:53:23 AM
Quote from: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 10:42:30 AM
Well The Skunk Whisperer didn't work out.

Oh well.  We've got rabbits.

Get a live trap - can sometimes rent them, but if not, buy one from Atwoods.  Tough to trap, but with patience will sometimes work.  And when done with the rabbit, put an open can of tuna in it to catch the wandering neighborhood cats!  Then all you need is a brick, some rope, and a pond....

Ok, ok,....I'm kidding about the pond. 

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 10:56:25 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 10:53:23 AM
Get a live trap - can sometimes rent them, but if not, buy one from Atwoods.  Tough to trap, but with patience will sometimes work.  And when done with the rabbit, put an open can of tuna in it to catch the wandering neighborhood cats!  Then all you need is a brick, some rope, and a pond....

Ok, ok,....I'm kidding about the pond. 



I'm done.  I've had enough with contractors, rabbits, delivery people, furniture stores...the rabbits and I will learn to co-exist.  The dogs however...they will not.  I'll soon be out there with a shovel ending the carnage.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
Quote from: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 10:56:25 AM
I'm done.  I've had enough with contractors, rabbits, delivery people, furniture stores...the rabbits and I will learn to co-exist.  The dogs however...they will not.  I'll soon be out there with a shovel ending the carnage.

Good to hear it.  If/when the dogs catch one, take it from them and put it on the grill!!  They will hate you for it, but it is good eats!

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 11:04:45 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
Good to hear it.  If/when the dogs catch one, take it from them and put it on the grill!!  They will hate you for it, but it is good eats!



Pass
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 11:52:58 AM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 10:59:02 AM
Good to hear it.  If/when the dogs catch one, take it from them and put it on the grill!!  They will hate you for it, but it is good eats!



That's one thing I've never figured out.  If another creature tastes like a chicken, why not just throw a damn chicken on the grill?
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: RecycleMichael on September 01, 2011, 11:58:34 AM
I love rabbit, but it is a little hard to cook properly. You can fry it in a pan like chicken, but it has extra tendons and gristle that make it a little hard to eat. I would fry it, then put it in a pressure cooker to soften.

It does make a fine stew as well.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on September 01, 2011, 12:07:08 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 11:52:58 AM
That's one thing I've never figured out.  If another creature tastes like a chicken, why not just throw a damn chicken on the grill?

Tyson adds to much salt and other chemicals.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 12:17:50 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 01, 2011, 12:07:08 PM
Tyson adds to much salt and other chemicals.

Buy whole chickens that don't have any additives.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 12:31:43 PM
Catching rabbits in your yard and eating them is like catching a bird in your yard and eating it.

I'll pass on both.

The Skunk whisperer and I both lost on this one.  He lost business and word of mouth and I'm out the money I paid him to cancel the contract and my wasted time.

If I see him on Animal Planet I'll only see it with one eyebrow raised.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
What happened with him?  Or is that a conversation for Fassler this evening?
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
What happened with him?  Or is that a conversation for Fassler this evening?

See you 5ish.  No reason for me to air grievances like it was Festivus on here.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 12:17:50 PM
Buy whole chickens that don't have any additives.

Tough to do.  Buy a Tyson chicken and you get one that has been packaged with - their term - "a chlorine solution".  Bleach.  Which doesn't bother me at all - just rinse the thing off - but SWMBO was indignant when she called them to complain about it smelling like clorox.  They said, "No, we don't use bleach....we use a chlorine solution."

Give me bleach over salmonella ANY time!

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: TheArtist on September 01, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: Townsend on August 23, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
I've got several rabbits hanging out under a pergola in the backyard.  

My dogs are going apes**t trying to kill them and I don't want to have to put another dog through knee surgery from chasing the damned things.

Who's got a plan/advice for me?

Thanks in advance.

Easiest thing still sounds like "Get rid of the danged dogs!" lol  Problem solved.  Bet the neighbors would be glad to be rid of the noisy, stupid, ignorant "ape**t" dogs as well, aaand you won't have to worry about putting another dog through knee surgery.  ;D  No mere dog is worth any amount of money spent on surgery, I wouldn't spend any on food either to be frank.  Now a cat on the other hand, deserving of every dime.  Oh, and I don't have mice, or rabbits in my yard.  8)

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 02:12:27 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on September 01, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
Easiest thing still sounds like "Get rid of the danged dogs!" lol  Problem solved.  Bet the neighbors would be glad to be rid of the noisy, stupid, ignorant "ape**t" dogs as well, aaand you won't have to worry about putting another dog through knee surgery.  ;D  No mere dog is worth any amount of money spent on surgery, I wouldn't spend any on food either to be frank.  Now a cat on the other hand, deserving of every dime.  Oh, and I don't have mice, or rabbits in my yard.  8)



Indoor dogs and the neighbors have dogs as well.  That's not an issue.

You and I are really on opposite sides of the spectrum on this one...except I was raised with cats.  I like cats but not with two mid-sized dogs already in the house.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: custosnox on September 01, 2011, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: TheArtist on September 01, 2011, 02:01:51 PM
Easiest thing still sounds like "Get rid of the danged dogs!" lol  Problem solved.  Bet the neighbors would be glad to be rid of the noisy, stupid, ignorant "ape**t" dogs as well, aaand you won't have to worry about putting another dog through knee surgery.  ;D  No mere dog is worth any amount of money spent on surgery, I wouldn't spend any on food either to be frank.  Now a cat on the other hand, deserving of every dime.  Oh, and I don't have mice, or rabbits in my yard.  8)


The only thing cats are good for are for making sure the cat is in the catipult  ;D
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 03:30:38 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 01, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
Tough to do.  Buy a Tyson chicken and you get one that has been packaged with - their term - "a chlorine solution".  Bleach.  Which doesn't bother me at all - just rinse the thing off - but SWMBO was indignant when she called them to complain about it smelling like clorox.  They said, "No, we don't use bleach....we use a chlorine solution."

Give me bleach over salmonella ANY time!



They may use chlorine in their chiller water for sanitation, but they aren't packaging their chicken with chlorine.  It gets a good rinse when it comes out of the chiller bath.  The only thing I'm aware of Tyson packages chicken with is a "chicken broth solution"


"INGREDIENTS:
Premium Fresh Young Chicken. Parts of Giblets may be Missing. CONTAINS: Up to 12% chicken broth. All natural chicken broth ingredients: Chicken broth, sea salt, natural flavorings."

http://www.tyson.com/Products/Our-Products/Fresh-Chicken.aspx
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 03:56:16 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 03:30:38 PM
They may use chlorine in their chiller water for sanitation, but they aren't packaging their chicken with chlorine.  It gets a good rinse when it comes out of the chiller bath.  The only thing I'm aware of Tyson packages chicken with is a "chicken broth solution"


"INGREDIENTS:
Premium Fresh Young Chicken. Parts of Giblets may be Missing. CONTAINS: Up to 12% chicken broth. All natural chicken broth ingredients: Chicken broth, sea salt, natural flavorings."

http://www.tyson.com/Products/Our-Products/Fresh-Chicken.aspx


Getting behind one of their livestock trucks is off-putting.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2011, 04:12:14 PM
When I was a kid and worked in the meat department of a grocery store, we used to dip the fresh chickens in a mixture of water and chlorox before we shrink wrapped them.  It was required. 
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on September 01, 2011, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: Townsend on September 01, 2011, 02:12:27 PM
Indoor dogs and the neighbors have dogs as well.  That's not an issue.

You and I are really on opposite sides of the spectrum on this one...except I was raised with cats.  I like cats but not with two mid-sized dogs already in the house.

We have had German Shepherds and cats at the same time for years although we are presently without a cat.  Just make sure any new animal is not an adult. 
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on September 01, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 03:30:38 PM
"INGREDIENTS:
Premium Fresh Young Chicken. Parts of Giblets may be Missing. CONTAINS: Up to 12% chicken broth. All natural chicken broth ingredients: Chicken broth, sea salt, natural flavorings."

How much sodium per serving.  I think Tyson has multiple grades of chicken.  Mom is salt sensitive.  I was surprised at how much sodium was in the Tyson chicken at Sam's Club a few years ago.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on September 01, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
How much sodium per serving.  I think Tyson has multiple grades of chicken.  Mom is salt sensitive.  I was surprised at how much sodium was in the Tyson chicken at Sam's Club a few years ago.

Dunno Red.  I really prefer it with the feathers burned off, guts ripped out, washed and nothing else done to it.  I'm just not a fan of embalmed food anymore.  It's pretty hard to find any chicken in the store which has not had some sort of "broth", "natural flavoring" (read: MSG or yeast extract), or sodium phosphate solution "to improve juiciness".

Buying boneless breast fillets is almost a guarantee of added salt.  The closer you get to a whole chicken the chances of lots of sodium starts to decrease.

I'm not at the point of raising my own livestock yet, though the thought as crossed my mind.  My whole problem is, I'd get too attached and couldn't eat something I'd raised.  I don't have that problem with veggies though, they don't talk much  ;)
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on September 01, 2011, 08:58:27 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
  My whole problem is, I'd get too attached and couldn't eat something I'd raised.  I don't have that problem with veggies though, they don't talk much  ;)

Same here.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 02, 2011, 12:57:33 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 03:30:38 PM
They may use chlorine in their chiller water for sanitation, but they aren't packaging their chicken with chlorine.  It gets a good rinse when it comes out of the chiller bath.  The only thing I'm aware of Tyson packages chicken with is a "chicken broth solution"


Part of the final rinse is the dip in chlorinated disinfectant water.  With a sodium hypochlorite solution (bleach).  Just before wrapping.  According to the Tyson customer service girl.

That is what got Food Lion into trouble here - what Gaspar talked about - dipping meat in chlorine solution and a rinse before wrapping.  Great idea.  Just somewhat off putting to many.

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Hoss on September 02, 2011, 12:59:06 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 02, 2011, 12:57:33 PM
Part of the final rinse is the dip in chlorinated disinfectant water.  With a sodium hypochlorite solution (bleach).  Just before wrapping.  According to the Tyson customer service girl.

That is what got Food Lion into trouble here - what Gaspar talked about - dipping meat in chlorine solution and a rinse before wrapping.  Great idea.  Just somewhat off putting to many.



That's not techincally what they got in to trouble for.  Sure, it was for the bleaching.  But it was for the re-bleaching of already expired meat that got them in trouble.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 02, 2011, 01:00:26 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
Dunno Red.  I really prefer it with the feathers burned off, guts ripped out, washed and nothing else done to it.  I'm just not a fan of embalmed food anymore.  It's pretty hard to find any chicken in the store which has not had some sort of "broth", "natural flavoring" (read: MSG or yeast extract), or sodium phosphate solution "to improve juiciness".

Buying boneless breast fillets is almost a guarantee of added salt.  The closer you get to a whole chicken the chances of lots of sodium starts to decrease.

I'm not at the point of raising my own livestock yet, though the thought as crossed my mind.  My whole problem is, I'd get too attached and couldn't eat something I'd raised.  I don't have that problem with veggies though, they don't talk much  ;)

The biggest problem that requires the use of the added "broth" is how inherently dry the white meat is in the breeds of chicken and turkey that are commercially raised today.  Growing at home, you don't need that extra liquid.  Turkey in particular is inedible to me (white meat) just because it is so dry.

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 02, 2011, 01:02:48 PM
Quote from: Hoss on September 02, 2011, 12:59:06 PM
That's not techincally what they got in to trouble for.  Sure, it was for the bleaching.  But it was for the re-bleaching of already expired meat that got them in trouble.

And that is kind of strange considering the extra cost of longer aged beef (dry aged).  Logically, it would have made it more expensive and desirable for the more tender aged beef.  Go figure....

Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2011, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on September 02, 2011, 12:57:33 PM
Part of the final rinse is the dip in chlorinated disinfectant water.  With a sodium hypochlorite solution (bleach).  Just before wrapping.  According to the Tyson customer service girl.

That is what got Food Lion into trouble here - what Gaspar talked about - dipping meat in chlorine solution and a rinse before wrapping.  Great idea.  Just somewhat off putting to many.



That and using sodium sulfite on rancid beef to extend it's shelf life.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
Quote from: Conan71 on September 02, 2011, 02:29:01 PM
That and using sodium sulfite on rancid beef to extend it's shelf life.

OK, so I dip the rabbits in bleach water, chicken broth, or sodium sulfite if all else fails.

I was just looking at the title of the thread and it sounds like I have something wrong with my butt.

Well, I don't.  I've got some prime targets for the dogs still. They seem to be less interested in them as we go though.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2011, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
OK, so I dip the rabbits in bleach water, chicken broth, or sodium sulfite if all else fails.

I was just looking at the title of the thread and it sounds like I have something wrong with my butt.

Well, I don't.  I've got some prime targets for the dogs still. They seem to be less interested in them as we go though.

It's the rabbit plan.  First the dogs will start to get used to the bunnehs.  Then the bunnehs will give your dogs a peace offering, then next thing you know they've got your dogs smoking five rocks a day and the dogs are stealing money from your sock drawer.  Always happens that way.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
You can borrow my pellet gun and we can put this thread to bed.
Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 04:29:38 PM
You can borrow my pellet gun and we can put this thread to bed.

The new thread would start with "Holes in my sprinkler system.  What now?"
Title: Re: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 07:36:12 PM
My pellet gun has a scope. Betty accurate.

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Title: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Red Arrow on September 02, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
The new thread would start with "Holes in my sprinkler system.  What now?"

Take shooting lessons.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Hoss on September 02, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 07:36:12 PM
My pellet gun has a scope. Betty accurate.

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Title: Re: Re: Rabbits in the backyard. How do I get rid of them?
Post by: Gaspar on September 03, 2011, 09:11:06 AM
Her name is Betty. Yeah, that's it.

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