I work in downtown Tulsa and am consistently late catching the 105 bus. I spoke with custermer service and their only excuse is the 10 min window rule... What's up with that?
So why are you late?
Are you late, or are you saying that the bus can leave up to 5 minutes early?
I am guessing he is talking about a transfer. I have tried to schedule a route to work before and found it would be near impossible to get to work in a timely manner as the bus downtown is often scheduled to depart at the same time or even shortly before the incoming bus arrives.
A couple of years ago when I worked downtown I rode the bus on a regular basis.
I could catch the express in the morning. Lucky for me I could get a ride home in the evening (because I could never find an efficient way to get home if I missed the Express in the evening, and being in IT, there are days you can't leave at 4:50.)
And right there is one reason we are still heavily dependent on cars in Tulsa and probably always will be. Mass transit simply can't seem to satisfy everyone's independent schedule.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 10, 2011, 09:43:23 AM
And right there is one reason we are still heavily dependent on cars in Tulsa and probably always will be. Mass transit simply can't seem to satisfy everyone's independent schedule.
We can, Tulsa just chooses not to. I was stuck taking the bus last year for a bit, and to get across town it would take two hours. With the size of Tulsa, it should never take that long.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 10, 2011, 09:43:23 AM
And right there is one reason we are still heavily dependent on cars in Tulsa and probably always will be. Mass transit simply can't seem to satisfy everyone's independent schedule.
That was my final decision as well.
Quote from: Conan71 on August 10, 2011, 09:43:23 AM
And right there is one reason we are still heavily dependent on cars in Tulsa and probably always will be. Mass transit simply can't seem to satisfy everyone's independent schedule.
Mass transit like they have in NYC or other major cities with millions of people with different schedules?
Quote from: hello on August 10, 2011, 11:23:28 AM
Mass transit like they have in NYC or other major cities with millions of people with different schedules?
Not in this town it cant.
In NYC you've got the subway and buses with trains coming and going at all hours and it works quite well if you know the schedules. Same with the els in Chicago. In NYC, rail transit pre-dates the car by 30 some years. It's not unusual at all to find people in dense cities like that who have never owned a car.
Less density = more cars, less accustomed to mass transit, and not as well-served by mass transit.
I did a horrible job explaining my dilema. ??? The 105 north bound has been using the excuse that they are running late due to the road construction located at 51st and peoria, 11th and peoria, and 1st and peoria.
One thing that I have continued to remind them is if you leave late you are more likely to arrive late. They have a stop (rest) location at the Walmart at 81st and Lewis. Which is where I normally get on at.
It should arrive at walmart at 7:17 a.m. and should be at 73 and wheeling at 7:20 a.m. The bus normaly arrives at 7:15 a.m. depending on the driver is the time that it leaves. For some reason some drivers will use the "10 min window" and stay there (Walmart) until 7:27 causing those that are on a schedule to run late.
I realize the best method is to drive a vehicle or take an earlier route but shouldn't I expect a company to be professional and arrive when they say they will?
I asked the Customer Service Rep. If I worked for the transit and caught the bus to work downtown how many times would you give me a pass for arriving late when your system caused me to arrive late? I was told 3. Then I would have to "discover new job opportunities". My responce was if it's your system's timing is not good enough for your company why should you not be concerned that it would not be good enough for those dependent? I am sorry sir we have delays due to construction.....
When the transit is on time I have 15 min to sit at my desk before clocking in. Will the transit ever have a real competitor?
Quote from: XEALS for THRILLS on August 11, 2011, 11:57:04 AM
Will the transit ever have a real competitor?
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Quote from: sgrizzle on August 11, 2011, 12:36:40 PM
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lol I take that as a NO!!
It seams the only time there is true long term change is when there is competition.
Quote from: XEALS for THRILLS on August 11, 2011, 01:10:03 PM
lol I take that as a NO!!
It seams the only time there is true long term change is when there is competition.
Keep in mind that Tulsa is no San Francisco, DC/Northern VA/Maryland or New York. As someone else posted, we are spread out a lot more than SF and NY for sure. With the Metro in DC, you are likely still tied to a vehicle, as most people park and ride. But it's much more preferable and less hassle than driving into the District.
Hopefully this website will begin tracking Tulsa's bus system. It will help many people.
www.nextbus.com
I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE!! I spoke with the Transit Supervisor and gave my concern about them leaving on time and the difference in being late vs. because the traffic is bad. My only request is that They leave their overlay locations on time. During the call I realised he was to lazy to do his homework and verify the route the driver used. How do I know? His statement was I-44 is slowing the bus down and heavy commuters. My response when does the 105 north bound pass I-44 if it leave downtown going North?? It doesn't. The bus dropped me off on time but was late getting back at a time there were not a lot of commuters nor heavy traffic. My statement then was that I am not hearing you say these are the changes that you are making. He says cause they are not going to ADJUST THE SCHEDULE FOR ME. They will always be late 10 - 15 min. and they won't reflect there schedule to leave sooner in locations that they should be in ??? They won't show the real time that they will be in either. The I-44 peoria will be worked on until mid Feb. so this is what happens when people in charge that are just a title holder not an action maker........
Quote from: barry47 on August 23, 2011, 01:32:42 PM
I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE!! I spoke with the Transit Supervisor and gave my concern about them leaving on time and the difference in being late vs. because the traffic is bad. My only request is that They leave their overlay locations on time. During the call I realised he was to lazy to do his homework and verify the route the driver used. How do I know? His statement was I-44 is slowing the bus down and heavy commuters. My response when does the 105 north bound pass I-44 if it leave downtown going North?? It doesn't. The bus dropped me off on time but was late getting back at a time there were not a lot of commuters nor heavy traffic. My statement then was that I am not hearing you say these are the changes that you are making. He says cause they are not going to ADJUST THE SCHEDULE FOR ME. They will always be late 10 - 15 min. and they won't reflect there schedule to leave sooner in locations that they should be in ??? They won't show the real time that they will be in either. The I-44 peoria will be worked on until mid Feb. so this is what happens when people in charge that are just a title holder not an action maker........
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Most of the times I ride the bus, it's from downtown to the Utica Square area.
It's never on time to the downtown station. They always seem to stop to switch drivers on 6th in the Pearl District, which results in another five minutes of chatting, seat/mirror adjustments, etc.
Biking is quicker than (or at least equal speed) to the bus anywhere in midtown. And beyond midtown, it's just a ridiculously long bus ride. From downtown to Utica Square, even walking is as appealing as riding the bus. It's not that much slower and you can leave when you want.
I have most of a 10-ride pass just sitting in my wallet for the past year because transit is hardly ever a good option.