On May 3, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder testified before House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa's committee that he only learned about the government's sale of weapons to Mexican drug cartels "in the last few weeks."
But Big Government found a 2009 speech by Holder on the Department of Justice's own website that proves the attorney general was well aware of Operation Gunrunner back in 2009:
The problem with Holder's feigned ignorance is that he gave a speech in Cuernavaca, Mexico, on April 2, 2009, in which he boasted about Operation 'Gunrunner" and told Mexican authorities of everything he was doing to insure its success.
When questioned by the media, Holder also denied knowing anything about Gunrunner:
"Holder's office at first vehemently denied ATF has ever knowingly allowed weapons to get into the hands of suspected gunrunners for Mexico's drug cartels," CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson reported.
But at the arms trafficking conference in Cuernavaca, Holder not only acknowledged the program, he bragged that he was in the process of expanding it:
"Last week, our administration launched a major new effort to break the backs of the cartels. My department is committing 100 new ATF personnel to the Southwest border in the next 100 days to supplement our ongoing Project Gunrunner, DEA is adding 16 new positions on the border, as well as mobile enforcement teams, and the FBI is creating a new intelligence group focusing on kidnapping and extortion. DHS is making similar commitments, as Secretary Napolitano will detail."
So Holder's May 3rd denial appears to be refuted by his own words.
With 43 automatic weapons with serial numbers traced back to the ATF operation seized during a single traffic stop in Phoenix, and others showing up in crimes throughout Arizona, the ATF director now claims that Holder's department is obstructing the congressional investigation.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/07/holder-bragged-about-operation-gunrunner-2009#ixzz1SaIi7o7D
You know what your being when post something negative about Holder, right? And with a Breitbart website no less. ;D Here's another story with video on the announcement of Project Gunrunner by Deputy AG Ogden in March 2009, two months before Holder's comments in May.
http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/2011/07/12/project-gunrunner-tied-directly-to-president-obama/
Now to be fair, there is an argument that Gunrunner is different than Fast & Furious.
http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2011/07/09/news/fast-and-furious-not-gunrunner/
Still, from what I have read, Fast & Furious was a program launched in September 2009 under Project Gunrunner. In any case, someone needs to get their @ss jailed over this complete clusterfark of a plan. We have unknown numbers of people killed with these weapons our government let walk across the border, including an American border agent.
Just a guess, but is this a talking point on Fartz or Limpdick today?
Quote from: Teatownclown on July 19, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
Just a guess, but is this a talking point on Fartz or Limpdick today?
Dunno, I haven't had it on KRMG today. Came to me via email.
You guys have your Murdochgate, us Rethugs need a good scandal too.
This is a good one...what a bone headed idea. Next they'll try to bait a pedophile ring with live children.
Quote from: carltonplace on July 19, 2011, 04:13:00 PM
This is a good one...what a bone headed idea. Next they'll try to bait a pedophile ring with live children.
+1
Quote of the day!
Quote from: Teatownclown on July 19, 2011, 03:52:52 PM
Just a guess, but is this a talking point on Fartz or Limpdick today?
There was a live remote from your dish-washer....
Brian Terry tribute vid.
We as a nation recklessly and callously caused this man to die.
Looks like the answer to the question is YES. Holder's last days in office start today.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/bombshell-atf-email-they-all-knew
Quote from: Gaspar on November 16, 2011, 01:03:47 PM
Looks like the answer to the question is YES. Holder's last days in office start today.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/bombshell-atf-email-they-all-knew
Like the Solyndra emails, you've taken it all out of context. I just figured I'd save Nate and Wevus the time to respond.
Quote from: Conan71 on November 16, 2011, 01:59:30 PM
Like the Solyndra emails, you've taken it all out of context. I just figured I'd save Nate and Wevus the time to respond.
The DOJ will be throwing a going-away part for Eric Holder. The theme is pot-luck, bring a covered dish and any unregistered weapons you may find.
Quote from: Gaspar on November 16, 2011, 03:22:15 PM
The DOJ will be throwing a going-away part for Eric Holder. The theme is pot-luck, bring a covered dish and any unregistered weapons you may find.
I don't feel too bad for Holder. He'll always have a career brokering presidential pardons.
IT'S GETTING HOT IN HERE!
Time for a taxpayer funded junket!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/17/eric-holder-s-caribbean-trip-an-ill-advised-junket-critics-say.html
House Republicans sent Eric Holder a memo today demanding his resignation.
There are two problems with this:
1. He's on taxpayer funded vacation in the Bahamas.
2. He does not read his memos.
:D
Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 04:05:24 PM
House Republicans sent Eric Holder a memo today demanding his resignation.
There are two problems with this:
1. He's on taxpayer funded vacation in the Bahamas.
2. He does not read his memos.
:D
Copycats. We know this is just retribution for Alberto Gonzales.
Quote from: Conan71 on November 17, 2011, 04:17:22 PM
Copycats. We know this is just retribution for Alberto Gonzales.
Holder is staying at the Fairmont and playing Sandy Lanes tomorrow morning. . . .Wait! Where's the President?
I hate that course! You have to use one of their caddys, and they wait until you are on about the 9th or 10th hole to pull out a bunch of crap that they carved out of coconuts and want you to pay them $50 for. If you don't they treat you like dirt for the rest of the round. I hate getting fleeced. Perhaps Holder will flip them a 9 or an AK or something.
http://www.fivestaralliance.com/luxury-hotels/bridgetown/fairmont-royal-pavilion
http://www.sandylane.com/caribbean-golf-courses.php
Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
Holder is staying at the Fairmont and playing Sandy Lanes tomorrow morning. . . .Wait! Where's the President?
I hate that course! You have to use one of their caddys, and they wait until you are on about the 9th or 10th hole to pull out a bunch of crap that they carved out of coconuts and want you to pay them $50 for. If you don't they treat you like dirt for the rest of the round. I hate getting fleeced. Perhaps Holder will flip them a 9 or an AK or something.
http://www.fivestaralliance.com/luxury-hotels/bridgetown/fairmont-royal-pavilion
http://www.sandylane.com/caribbean-golf-courses.php
Sigh. Cite?
Sigh.
Quote from: Gaspar on November 17, 2011, 04:38:36 PM
Holder is staying at the Fairmont and playing Sandy Lanes tomorrow morning. . . .Wait! Where's the President?
I hate that course! You have to use one of their caddys, and they wait until you are on about the 9th or 10th hole to pull out a bunch of crap that they carved out of coconuts and want you to pay them $50 for. If you don't they treat you like dirt for the rest of the round. I hate getting fleeced. Perhaps Holder will flip them a 9 or an AK or something.
http://www.fivestaralliance.com/luxury-hotels/bridgetown/fairmont-royal-pavilion
http://www.sandylane.com/caribbean-golf-courses.php
You think Holder brought some AR's in his bag or will he need to order them from the Phoenix field office?
Quote from: Conan71 on November 17, 2011, 10:54:31 PM
You think Holder brought some AR's in his bag or will he need to order them from the Phoenix field office?
Chances are they are already floating around the Bahamas.
This whole thing transcends Holder - it is endemic in the ATF. Has been since the 60's.