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Privilege has its perks!
A lot like that woman who got about 15 years for a couple ounces of pot here in OK. While last month Willie Nelson had a Texas sheriff and DA who smoked up enough of his last bust stash to keep the case in the county. DA tried to make a plea deal where he would pay $100 fine and probation if he would sing "Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain" in court. Judge said the court would not become a circus. Fine of $500. And probation.
I wonder who had the longer rap sheet?
3 Strikes and you're out..... ;D
Quote from: Breadburner on June 24, 2011, 07:40:41 AM
3 Strikes and you're out..... ;D
Vagrancy . . . .
Loitering . . . .
. . . and a stealing a century note from a bank. And then returning it.
Yeah, but Sheen, the $3 billion fraud was a "victimless crime." ::)
I have no clue about the past record of the robber in Louisiana, but one can assume he might have a very long rap sheet. Even if he didn't, bank robbery is bank robbery. It doesn't matter if he took $100 or $100,000.
Obviously he was trying to get clean and had a conscience about what he had done. In lieu of a long rap sheet, that's someone who might have benefitted from a drug treatment program rather than prison. I'm really weary of how much money we spend to warehouse drug addicts.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 24, 2011, 09:29:54 AM
Yeah, but Sheen, the $3 billion fraud was a "victimless crime." ::)
I have no clue about the past record of the robber in Louisiana, but one can assume he might have a very long rap sheet. Even if he didn't, bank robbery is bank robbery. It doesn't matter if he took $100 or $100,000.
Obviously he was trying to get clean and had a conscience about what he had done. In lieu of a long rap sheet, that's someone who might have benefitted from a drug treatment program rather than prison. I'm really weary of how much money we spend to warehouse drug addicts.
15 years at $56.10 per in Oklahoma would cost us more than 300k to lock him up, for stealing $100
Quote from: CharlieSheen on June 23, 2011, 05:59:07 PM
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So if you actually do the research, Paul Allen was only a part of that gig. The fed is pursuing a life sentence for Lee Farkas, the chairman who hatched the deal. Allen was acting CEO at the time and knew what Farkas was doing but did not report it. He is indeed guilty, and deserves his time in jail and the revocation of his license, but Farkas will get the life sentence for this.
I also searched the Caddo
Parrish Court (It's not called the Caddo District Court) records for Mr. Roy Brown. There were indeed several Roy Browns, but only two matched his age and I couldn't find any cases that matched this one. So I'm not sure if he is still incarcerated or if he has been released.
It seems all of the reports of Mr. Brown's story started on blog posts, and then escalated to facebook, twitter, and even youtube. I am still trying to find a newspaper article.
Also. . .AP Archive search for this story also turned up nothing, so that may explain why it is hard to get any information on Mr. Brown's case. It seems that this clipping may be fabricated.
Snopes has nothing on it. Maybe his sentence got commuted? There again, isn't bank robbery a federal crime? Chances are he would not be in parish or state lock up then.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 24, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
Snopes has nothing on it. Maybe his sentence got commuted? There again, isn't bank robbery a federal crime? Chances are he would not be in parish or state lock up then.
Yes, but the story claims he was sentenced by the Parrish court.
I'm calling BULLSMILE!
Quote from: Gaspar on June 24, 2011, 10:26:53 AM
Yes, but the story claims he was sentenced by the Parrish court.
I'm calling BULLSMILE!
I'm thinking...
Quote from: Conan71 on June 24, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
Snopes has nothing on it. Maybe his sentence got commuted? There again, isn't bank robbery a federal crime? Chances are he would not be in parish or state lock up then.
Could be considered Larceny.....
Quote from: Breadburner on June 24, 2011, 12:26:41 PM
Could be considered Larceny.....
Looked at Larceny, Robbery, Grand Larceny, and Criminal Mischief (pancakes that is). Still couldn't find it.
Quote from: Breadburner on June 24, 2011, 12:26:41 PM
Could be considered Larceny.....
Not according to the FDIC. If this was a true case, he effed up and should have taken $99.
"2113. Bank robbery and incidental crimes.
(a) Whoever, by force and violence, or by intimidation, takes, or attempts to take, from the person or presence of another any property or money or any other thing of value belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management, or possession of, any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association; or
Whoever enters or attempts to enter any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association, or any building used in whole or in part as a bank, credit union, or as a savings and loan association, with intent to commit in such bank, credit union, or in such savings and loan association, or building, or part thereof, so used, any felony affecting such bank, credit union, or such savings and loan association and in violation of any statute of the United States, or any larceny--
Shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(b) Whoever takes and carries away, with intent to steal or purloin, any property or money or any other thing of value exceeding $100 belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management, or possession of any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; or
Whoever takes and carries away, with intent to steal or purloin, any property or money or any other thing of value not exceeding $100 belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management, or possession of any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."
http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/8000-1250.html
A sympathetic local prosecutor might reduce charges to larceny if it was an armed robbery of a store or gas station. I did see some chatter on-line that it's possible the FBI could defer to local prosecution, but after reading the FDIC citation, I don't believe that's the case.
Quote from: Conan71 on June 24, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Not according to the FDIC. If this was a true case, he effed up and should have taken $99.
"2113. Bank robbery and incidental crimes.
(a) Whoever, by force and violence, or by intimidation, takes, or attempts to take, from the person or presence of another any property or money or any other thing of value belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management, or possession of, any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association; or
Whoever enters or attempts to enter any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association, or any building used in whole or in part as a bank, credit union, or as a savings and loan association, with intent to commit in such bank, credit union, or in such savings and loan association, or building, or part thereof, so used, any felony affecting such bank, credit union, or such savings and loan association and in violation of any statute of the United States, or any larceny--
Shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(b) Whoever takes and carries away, with intent to steal or purloin, any property or money or any other thing of value exceeding $100 belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management, or possession of any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association, shall be fined not more than $5,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; or
Whoever takes and carries away, with intent to steal or purloin, any property or money or any other thing of value not exceeding $100 belonging to, or in the care, custody, control, management, or possession of any bank, credit union, or any savings and loan association, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."
http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/rules/8000-1250.html
A sympathetic local prosecutor might reduce charges to larceny if it was an armed robbery of a store or gas station. I did see some chatter on-line that it's possible the FBI could defer to local prosecution, but after reading the FDIC citation, I don't believe that's the case.
Minimum sentencing can be used as a guideline but not force now , if I remember correctly.
Quote from: Gaspar on June 24, 2011, 10:26:53 AM
Yes, but the story claims he was sentenced by the Parrish court.
I'm calling BULLSMILE!
Yeah, the story was from 2009 and I can't find anything other than broken news site links.
I would submit that no matter how long his rap sheet, in the few years he has been at it, there is no way he has done as much overall damage to society/economy, etc as the $3 billion fraud. (Otherwise, it is likely he would have retired before this point.)
well he's not homeless or hungry anymore. Silver lining ya'll