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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: TulsaGuy on June 08, 2011, 09:19:32 AM

Title: Old TPS buildings
Post by: TulsaGuy on June 08, 2011, 09:19:32 AM
Does anyone know what the city's plans are for the old TPS buildings that are being closed?

Who owns the buildings, the city?

Is there a website that lists the schools being closed?

Are they being auctioned off, do they have plans for some already? 

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: Townsend on June 08, 2011, 09:26:13 AM
http://www.newson6.com/story/14850491/tulsa (http://www.newson6.com/story/14850491/tulsa)

QuoteTULSA, Oklahoma -- There are new developments as Tulsa Public Schools hangs a for sale sign in front of nine schools.

The Tulsa School Board declared Addams, Barnard Cherokee, Chouteau, Roosevelt, and Sandburg elementary schools, as well as, Wilson Middle School, and the Pershing and Samuel Morse sites, all surplus.

It's the first step toward selling those schools.  Most of them were closed as part of the district's consolidation effort.

Board members said Monday night they're just testing the waters. They will now get the properties appraised and then open them for bids.

But administrators say they will be choosy, looking for the best price and the best fit and they say some properties may not sell at all.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: RecycleMichael on June 08, 2011, 09:47:55 AM
The buildings have generated some interest, but no deals have been made yet.

Is there a particular school you are interested in?
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: swake on June 08, 2011, 09:58:33 AM
Quote from: TulsaGuy on June 08, 2011, 09:19:32 AM
Does anyone know what the city's plans are for the old TPS buildings that are being closed?

Who owns the buildings, the city?

Is there a website that lists the schools being closed?

Are they being auctioned off, do they have plans for some already? 

Thanks for the help.

The city and TPS are not related at all.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: DolfanBob on June 08, 2011, 10:03:38 AM
Six in the Morning reported yesterday that several of the Schools have been put up for sale, to get a feel how public buyers would respond.
I couldnt help but think. What would you do with a old School built in 1929 ?
Help me out here fellas. I have never been accused of having "The Grand Vision"
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: carltonplace on June 08, 2011, 10:16:16 AM
Quote from: DolfanBob on June 08, 2011, 10:03:38 AM
Six in the Morning reported yesterday that several of the Schools have been put up for sale, to get a feel how public buyers would respond.
I couldnt help but think. What would you do with a old School built in 1929 ?
Help me out here fellas. I have never been accused of having "The Grand Vision"

If I had a grand wallet to compliment a grand vision, I'd pick up Barnard or Wilson to convert to a hotel/restaurant/pub like this one in Portland OR: http://www.mcmenamins.com/427-kennedy-school-home (http://www.mcmenamins.com/427-kennedy-school-home)
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: Conan71 on June 08, 2011, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: carltonplace on June 08, 2011, 10:16:16 AM
If I had a grand wallet to compliment a grand vision, I'd pick up Barnard or Wilson to convert to a hotel/restaurant/pub like this one in Portland OR: http://www.mcmenamins.com/427-kennedy-school-home (http://www.mcmenamins.com/427-kennedy-school-home)


Why do I have a sick feeling Barnard will get snatched up by Bumgarner and turned into a walled community with Tuscan dryvit dreck?
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: Teatownclown on June 08, 2011, 10:23:40 AM
Highest and best use in an old area....if not JB, somebody will. No brainer.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: Conan71 on June 08, 2011, 10:25:54 AM
Quote from: Teatownclown on June 08, 2011, 10:23:40 AM
Highest and best use in an old area....if not JB, somebody will. No brainer.

With the close proximity to St. John's, I was hoping for an owner-occupied multi-tennant low-rise complex, not a mini-prison camp for the wealthy.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: carltonplace on June 08, 2011, 10:31:46 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on June 08, 2011, 10:18:19 AM
Why do I have a sick feeling Barnard will get snatched up by Bumgarner and turned into a walled community with Tuscan dryvit dreck?

Bet you're right. Barnard is a very cool building and it could easily be adapted by someone with vision. Plus it fits the neighborhood well. The person you mentioned is not the "someone with vision" when it comes to adaptive reuse and developments that gel with their surroundings and please their neighbors.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: tulsa1603 on June 08, 2011, 10:59:47 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on June 08, 2011, 10:25:54 AM
I was hoping for an owner-occupied multi-tennant low-rise complex

It also lies in the Yorktown historic district doesn't it?  I wonder how any kind of tear down/new development will work out without a huge fight.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: Teatownclown on June 08, 2011, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: Conan71 on June 08, 2011, 10:25:54 AM
With the close proximity to St. John's, I was hoping for an owner-occupied multi-tennant low-rise complex, not a mini-prison camp for the wealthy.

define wealthy....
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: rdj on June 08, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
Quote from: tulsa1603 on June 08, 2011, 10:59:47 AM
It also lies in the Yorktown historic district doesn't it?  I wonder how any kind of tear down/new development will work out without a huge fight.

It lies within the Yorktown District but the Gillette District is the north border of the property.

http://www.tulsapreservationcommission.org/pdf/mapyorktown.pdf
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: AquaMan on June 08, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
Quote from: tulsa1603 on June 08, 2011, 10:59:47 AM
It also lies in the Yorktown historic district doesn't it?  I wonder how any kind of tear down/new development will work out without a huge fight.

Prestigious historic district or not, its toast. Seems like these historic districts don't put up much of a fight when faced with a real opponent. I know of two addresses in Maple Ridge that became 10 addresses without so much as a whimper.

Roosevelt and its surrounding grounds could be the best of the bunch since Wilson will probably go to TU and Barnard to infill. Roosevelt is historic, sits on a large rolling campus adjacent to a park, a growing old hood, a country club and nearby entertainment district. What a great home for a corporate entity with hometown roots.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: rdj on June 08, 2011, 11:19:52 AM
Quote from: AquaMan on June 08, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
Prestigious historic district or not, its toast. Seems like these historic districts don't put up much of a fight when faced with a real opponent. I know of two addresses in Maple Ridge that became 10 addresses without so much as a whimper.

Roosevelt and its surrounding grounds could be the best of the bunch since Wilson will probably go to TU and Barnard to infill. Roosevelt is historic, sits on a large rolling campus adjacent to a park, a growing old hood, a country club and nearby entertainment district. What a great home for a corporate entity with hometown roots.


Or an arts focused charter school?  ???
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: patric on September 05, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
One of the closed schools, Barnard Elementary, burned to the ground this morning.
It had just been remodeled as a school of the arts.

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Tulsa-School-of-Arts-Sciences-destroyed-by-fire/X9PkofMYjkupj7kkZX2Hjw.cspx
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20120905_11_0_Tulsaf213523
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: swake on September 05, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
Quote from: patric on September 05, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
One of the closed schools, Barnard Elementary, burned to the ground this morning.
It had just been remodeled as a school of the arts.

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Tulsa-School-of-Arts-Sciences-destroyed-by-fire/X9PkofMYjkupj7kkZX2Hjw.cspx

It was the TSAS charter high school. One of the best in the state.
http://tsas.org/
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: patric on September 06, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: swake on September 05, 2012, 04:55:01 PM
It was the TSAS charter high school. One of the best in the state.
http://tsas.org/

It was also a neat building that was worth saving.
They had recently installed one of the newer tornado sirens there, I wonder if it's still working.
Title: Re: Old TPS buildings
Post by: Conan71 on September 06, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
I went to Barnard from Sept. 1973 to May of 1977.  Many fond memories there.