They has started...
Only now? Not much of a stormgasm if it's not overhyped way in advance. Everything's pointing to a pretty nasty severe weather outbreak and has been for nearly a week. We'll know for sure in a couple more hours..
PDS labeled Tornado Watch out now...
And there's been a tornado on the ground in northern Osage county for a while now, and another storm just to the SE of the other one got a tornado warning and looks to be headed in the direction of Bartlesville.
Stay safe out there, folks..
Looks like your having your own........
The Weather Channel is in Downtown right now. The TIV and Dominator have been seen in Sapulpa. That one around Stroud is coming straight at us. The tornado looks like it may be heading towards Bixby...holy ****!
I had been sitting at McAlisters at 101st and Memorial when the sirens went off and the messages on my phone started saying warning instead of watch. Finished up the meeting I was having, ordered the other half some food and headed home. Got here in time to sit down, get the computer up and going, then go outside to watch the circulation pass directly overhead. Always love being immune to tornadoes.
Quote from: Breadburner on April 14, 2011, 04:48:16 PM
Looks like your having your own........
If you don't want to take a system that's put a line of tornadic supercells down across the state seriously, that sounds like a personal problem to me. I've seen spotter reports of at least four tornadoes on the ground already. We happened to get lucky with "our" storm ending up being choked off by its neighbors. It could just have easily been the one to produce.
And this is just round one, although round two will probably be more of a wind and hail threat..
Quote from: nathanm on April 14, 2011, 06:35:22 PM
If you don't want to take a system that's put a line of tornadic supercells down across the state seriously, that sounds like a personal problem to me. I've seen spotter reports of at least four tornadoes on the ground already. We happened to get lucky with "our" storm ending up being choked off by its neighbors. It could just have easily been the one to produce.
And this is just round one, although round two will probably be more of a wind and hail threat..
Nate, I like to call it 'thinning the herd'....
Never thought I'd say The Weather Channel had the best coverage of this tonight.
Quote from: YoungTulsan on April 14, 2011, 08:17:10 PM
Never thought I'd say The Weather Channel had the best coverage of this tonight.
Had they not had someone in town it would have sucked.
Quote from: YoungTulsan on April 14, 2011, 08:17:10 PM
Never thought I'd say The Weather Channel had the best coverage of this tonight.
Sadly, I agree.
Is it over up there? I am in Illinois at a funeral and worried about my fam.
Quote from: guido911 on April 14, 2011, 10:01:23 PM
Is it over up there? I am in Illinois at a funeral and worried about my fam.
Depending on where your fam is, for now it's over...still some stuff going on near Coweta/Wagoner, and further to the southeast, but the immediate Tulsa area is out of the woods.
Anyone else drive into a white out today?
Quote from: Conan71 on April 14, 2011, 10:14:23 PM
Anyone else drive into a white out today?
I was looking at my weather software today and noticed a blizzard warning up in the Nebraska stubhandle..amazing.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 14, 2011, 10:14:23 PM
Anyone else drive into a white out today?
Are you in Nebraska, or is that hail? ;)
Quote from: Hoss on April 14, 2011, 10:22:08 PM
I was looking at my weather software today and noticed a blizzard warning up in the Nebraska stubhandle..amazing.
10 miles west of Sidney, I went to pass the car in front of me and my poor car acted like a startled cat on a glass table top. It snowed all the way to Cheyenne, but the roads were much improved before I got to the state line. They've been battling serious wind in Cheyenne for a week or so. The customer I went to see is building a tank farm and they had part of one of the tanks caved in by 80 to 90 MPH winds the other night. I pointed out that's what we call a "tornado" in our neck of the woods. He said the wind has really slowed progress on that project. Imagine trying to run a crane in a 40-50 sustained wind.
Quote from: nathanm on April 14, 2011, 10:54:39 PM
Are you in Nebraska, or is that hail? ;)
I've got photos from FMC's house in MWC last May after a hail storm that looks like that.
Colorado Springs now. Going for a ride out to Deckards in the morning then finally getting back to Tulsa. How bad was the damage in the metro today?
Quote from: Conan71 on April 14, 2011, 10:57:17 PM
Colorado Springs now. Going for a ride out to Deckards in the morning then finally getting back to Tulsa. How bad was the damage in the metro today?
There may have been some minor hail damage, but that's about it in the immediate vicinity of Tulsa. There was a definite tornado on the ground up in Osage county and there has been one confirmed death and significant damage near Atoka down south, plus a bunch of other scattered damage throughout SE Oklahoma.
Quote from: nathanm on April 14, 2011, 11:04:31 PM
There may have been some minor hail damage, but that's about it in the immediate vicinity of Tulsa. There was a definite tornado on the ground up in Osage county and there has been one confirmed death and significant damage near Atoka down south, plus a bunch of other scattered damage throughout SE Oklahoma.
All the text alerts from KRMG made it sound a whole lot worse than it apparently was. I was racing down the I-25 corridor from about Ft. Lupton to the Springs with rush hour traffic and by the time I got to the Springs I had something like 8 or 9 texts from the storm center.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 14, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
All the text alerts from KRMG made it sound a whole lot worse than it apparently was. I was racing down the I-25 corridor from about Ft. Lupton to the Springs with rush hour traffic and by the time I got to the Springs I had something like 8 or 9 texts from the storm center.
There were a
lot of rotating storms right around 5. Most of them had previously had funnels or at least rotating wall clouds, so NWS was treating it all very seriously. I believe there were about 13 discrete supercells in a line across the state at the time, so the warnings were popping off like mad.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 14, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
All the text alerts from KRMG made it sound a whole lot worse than it apparently was. I was racing down the I-25 corridor from about Ft. Lupton to the Springs with rush hour traffic and by the time I got to the Springs I had something like 8 or 9 texts from the storm center.
They don't issue those warnings loosely. All of the warnings issued last night were backed by several reports of funnels, rotating wall clouds, a couplet of opposing vortices on radar, etc. I was monitoring the direct ham radio line to the Tulsa NWS office and nearly every warning was issued after what they had seen on radar was confirmed by storm spotters on the ground. And there were a lot of them out last night. I think at one point, there were 400 storm spotters logged into the spotter network. And there are many more who weren't logged in or members of this network.
7 people killed in that round of storms last night. Southeast OK and Arkansas.
The Governor cancelled her trip to the area. She couldn't catch a ride in her helicopter and she's got a thing this evening.
http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14455320&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14455320&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
QuoteGov. Mary Fallin is cancelling her visit to a small southeast Oklahoma town where a tornado left two people dead and destroyed homes, businesses and the local school.
Fallin spokesman Aaron Cooper says Fallin cancelled her planned visit to Tushka Friday afternoon because winds were too strong for a helicopter flight to the area about 120 miles southeast of Oklahoma City.
Cooper says the governor also has a 5 p.m. deadline Friday to act upon legislation sent to her desk.
Officials say two women were killed and about two dozen were injured after the tornado rumbled through the town about 8 p.m. Thursday.
Thousands of area residents remain without power and utility officials say some may be without electricity for up to six days.
Quote from: Townsend on April 15, 2011, 02:43:55 PM
The Governor cancelled her trip to the area. She couldn't catch a ride in her helicopter and she's got a thing this evening.
http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14455320&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=14455320&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Wow, she's sorta turning into a Dewey-Bartlett type of governor.
Quote from: Townsend on April 15, 2011, 02:43:55 PM
The Governor cancelled her trip to the area. She couldn't catch a ride in her helicopter and she's got a thing this evening.
Fallin had dinner with Sarah Palin instead of visiting the disaster area. Really. That's the score.
As far as the weather coverage, the tornadoes ranged from EF-1 to EF-3, so I'd say the alarm was justified.
Too much "crying Wolf" IMO. Then when a real threat pops up people will ignore it as just being weatherman hype. During the last storm they (believe it was channel 6) went to live video inside a "chase car" really saw nothing and it sounded like they were actually disapointed that no real storm formed. KRMG radio goes into "Beeper mode" when ever a dark cloud passes overhead. Totally crazy.
Quote from: patric on April 16, 2011, 12:06:53 AM
Fallin had dinner with Sarah Palin instead of visiting the disaster area. Really. That's the score.
As far as the weather coverage, the tornadoes ranged from EF-1 to EF-3, so I'd say the alarm was justified.
I did not know that. I'm a big supporter of both Fallin & Palin, I think either one would make a good president of the USA. I also like the governer of Arizona who's name escapes me. I would not mind seeing a Palin/Trump ticket.
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 22, 2011, 03:28:28 PM
I did not know that. I'm a big supporter of both Fallin & Palin, I think either one would make a good president of the USA. I also like the governer of Arizona who's name escapes me. I would not mind seeing a Palin/Trump ticket.
Wow,
Just wow. Really? I'm sure you also think Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, the Earth is 6,000 years old and global warming is all just a conspiracy for the "new world order". You my friend should listen to some ICP:
Quote
Focking magnets, how do they work? / And I don't wanna talk to a scientist / Y'all motherfockers lying, and getting me pissed
Hey Guido,
This well informed gentleman is your average Tea Party type Republican. He's all on your side, you wanna claim him as one of your own? His mind has been bought and paid for Koch Oil and Newscorp.
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 22, 2011, 03:28:28 PM
I did not know that. I'm a big supporter of both Fallin & Palin, I think either one would make a good president of the USA. I also like the governer of Arizona who's name escapes me. I would not mind seeing a Palin/Trump ticket.
Neither would I, non-res. That would nearly guarantee that they lose. And it takes two goofballs out of contention.
Oh, wait a minute, isn't this thread about storms?
Atlas IPA! There! Saved it...
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 22, 2011, 03:28:28 PM
I did not know that. I'm a big supporter of both Fallin & Palin, I think either one would make a good president of the USA. I also like the governer of Arizona who's name escapes me. I would not mind seeing a Palin/Trump ticket.
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309/kallsop2/8abd424f-a951-45af-9630-af0f05de97fa.jpg)
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2011, 04:01:22 PM
His mind has been bought and paid for Koch Oil and Newscorp.
Oh good grief. You are not going full heiron or aox on us are you? Seriously, two posts in one day about the Koch brothers?
Quote from: guido911 on April 22, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
Oh good grief. You are not going full heiron or aox on us are you? Seriously, two posts in one day about the Koch brothers?
My point here is related to the other post. He is a great example of the Tea Party type I was talking about.
Saur is a part of that 50% plus of Republicans that are birthers and believe whatever pablum is put in front of them using right wing buzz words and wedge issues. Almost worse than being a birther (and I know you aren't one) he actually is buying Donald Trumps line of crap. It's amazing how gullible he and most people in the Tea Party are.
So. My question is this. He's your base, do you claim him as a rational and informed part of the right wing?
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2011, 05:32:25 PM
My point here is related to the other post. He is a great example of the Tea Party type I was talking about.
Saur is a part of that 50% plus of Republicans that are birthers and believe whatever pablum is put in front of them using right wing buzz words and wedge issues. Almost worse than being a birther (and I know you aren't one) he actually is buying Donald Trumps line of crap. It's amazing how gullible he and most people in the Tea Party are.
So. My question is this. He's your base, do you claim him as a rational and informed part of the right wing?
Rational? I can't say. But as you know every group has its fringe elements and he very well could be part of that. I haven't thought about this guy for a long time.
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2011, 05:32:25 PM
So. My question is this. He's your base, do you claim him as a rational and informed part of the right wing?
Saur? I don't think he's even part of this planet.
Quote from: guido911 on April 22, 2011, 05:38:48 PM
Rational? I can't say. But as you know every group has its fringe elements and he very well could be part of that. I haven't thought about this guy for a long time.
It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity racism. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.
Being a truther, I fixed this.
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.
You are jumping around a bit. Are we now talking about Repubs or tea partiers now?
Back o/t. South Tulsa/Bixby got fairly hammered with this storm. Got some nice size hail too.
Quote from: dbacks fan on April 22, 2011, 04:37:53 PM
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p309/kallsop2/8abd424f-a951-45af-9630-af0f05de97fa.jpg)
Well-placed kitteh facepalm.
Quote from: swake on April 22, 2011, 06:07:49 PM
It's not fringe thinking when most Republicans are birthers. This is mainstream stupidity. Fringe was the 5% of Democrats that were Truthers.
Let's talk about this. First, do you recall where this whole "birthism" began?
QuoteIf you haven't been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?
The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.
The theory's proponents are a mix of hucksters and earnest conspiracy theorists, including prominently a lawyer who previously devoted himself to 'proving' that the Sept. 11 attacks were an inside job. Its believers are primarily people predisposed to dislike Obama. That willingness to believe the worst about officials of the opposite party is a common feature of presidential rumor-mongering: In 2006, an Ohio University/Scripps Howard poll found that slightly more than half of Democrats said they suspected the Bush Administration of complicity in the Sept. 11 attacks.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html#ixzz1KIlWT667
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Emphasis added].
Well well, I hadn't remembered that it was the Hillary dems that trotted out the birther issue. Interesting that it was not the tea partiers (which as I pointed out in another thread did not come to be until about a year later). Also, you see that in 2006, five years
after 9/11, still more than half of dems were truthers. Sounds more mainstream than fringe to me. Interestingly, that percentage was somewhat affirmed the following year in a different poll (and I still hate polls btw):
QuoteTwenty-eight percent of Republicans believe President Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, and 30 percent are "not sure," according to this poll.
But before liberals begin to smirk, here's a poll from 2007, in which 35 percent of Democrats said that President Bush knew in advance about the 9/11 attacks, and 26 percent were not sure.
So if 58 percent of Republicans are living in a delusional fantasy world because they are out of power, then 61 percent of Democrats were doing the same thing until just recently (perhaps they still are). It's a clean, apples-to-apples comparison with a clear lesson: People get a bit kooky when they're out of power, Democrats about 3 points kookier -- which is probably within the margin of error.
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2009/07/birthers-why-didnt-truthers-get-all-attention#ixzz1KImnw400
[
Emphasis added].
http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2009/07/birthers-why-didnt-truthers-get-all-attention
Now floods are the talk. Floods do more damage than a drought can ever do. So far the flood death count is 7 people, the flooding is worse to the east of Tulsa. Julia Chinn said that tonite more storms are coming in. ::)
swake,
Don't forget that a full 48% of the voters elected W the first time. Plus 5.
So when talking fringe, you are talking 48%. Now, THAT is beyond scary!!
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 26, 2011, 01:08:21 PM
swake,
Don't forget that a full 48% of the voters elected W the first time. Plus 5.
So when talking fringe, you are talking 48%. Now, THAT is beyond scary!!
And BJ Clinton won in 1992 with 43%. So what?
Quote from: sauerkraut on April 26, 2011, 12:43:23 PM
Now floods are the talk. Floods do more damage than a drought can ever do. So far the flood death count is 7 people, the flooding is worse to the east of Tulsa. Julia Chinn said that tonite more storms are coming in. ::)
You actually watch the news for weather? I figured you'd have had something more like this out your front door:
(http://www.hsoi.com/resources/WeatherRock.jpg)
Keep an eye on the weather today guys. SPC issued a moderate risk to include our area. CAPE (instability) values are nearly maxxed out, CIN (storm cap) is non existant, EHI values are maxxed out, LCLs are perfect, and there's so much moisture you can feel it the minute you walk outside. All that could translate to the perfect storm. I will be out chasing. There is a huge chance for damaging hail and a good chance for tornadoes in and around our area today.
Tomorrow looks to be just as perfect as well. Still need to wait until the rapid update cycle weather model comes into alignment tomorrow, but it may be a slow moving storm directly in the middle of OK and it will head this direction.
Looks like the indicators were correct yesterday.
Did you chase up I-44?
Quote from: TurismoDreamin on May 22, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
Keep an eye on the weather today guys. SPC issued a moderate risk to include our area. CAPE (instability) values are nearly maxxed out, CIN (storm cap) is non existant, EHI values are maxxed out, LCLs are perfect, and there's so much moisture you can feel it the minute you walk outside. All that could translate to the perfect storm. I will be out chasing. There is a huge chance for damaging hail and a good chance for tornadoes in and around our area today.
Tomorrow looks to be just as perfect as well. Still need to wait until the rapid update cycle weather model comes into alignment tomorrow, but it may be a slow moving storm directly in the middle of OK and it will head this direction.
Looks like the tornado watch was just issued for Western & Central Oklahoma. I'm curious, where do you go to find CAPE?
NWS Tulsa recommends that you find your shoes, cash, and car keys, because they think today could get nasty, but tomorrow will be even worse. :P
Anyone else note the new metric they now include on storm tracking on the local TV? Number of people to be affected. Found that interesting.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 23, 2011, 07:34:40 PM
Anyone else note the new metric they now include on storm tracking on the local TV? Number of people to be affected. Found that interesting.
6 and 8 have been doing that since last season. One-upsmanship by station for sure.
I really used to like Channel 6 for storm coverage, but after a while Travis Meyers gets on my nerves. I'd much rather have Dick Faurot on doing coverage as primary.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 23, 2011, 07:34:40 PM
Anyone else note the new metric they now include on storm tracking on the local TV? Number of people to be affected. Found that interesting.
That is kinda cool. I remember when a severe storm was headed right into south-central Tulsa County and the people affected was like 540,000. If that storm would've been tornadic we could have had some serious problems.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 23, 2011, 07:34:40 PM
Anyone else note the new metric they now include on storm tracking on the local TV? Number of people to be affected. Found that interesting.
Actually kind of odd for them to share that with the viewers, because it was probably a statistic they figured they needed to have to weigh how necessary it is to cover with live preemption of prime time programming. Like today when a tornado warning was out for extreme western Osage County, it was pretty much unpopulated area - yet due to the fact that Osage County is adjacent to Tulsa County and is considered part of the MSA, the emergency alert system kicks in over all broadcasting and the stations with meteorologists kick in to non-stop coverage mode.
(for the geographically un-inclined, Osage County is huge and desolate)
Quote from: YoungTulsan on May 24, 2011, 02:17:21 AM
(for the geographically un-inclined, Osage County is huge and desolate)
Whoa whoa whoa...Osage almost had a 200 foot tall naked indian...almost.
Quote from: YoungTulsan on May 24, 2011, 02:17:21 AM
(for the geographically un-inclined, Osage County is huge and desolate)
Osage county has more land area than the State of Delaware. Delaware is 2nd smallest with Rhode Island being smaller.
Quote from: Red Arrow on May 24, 2011, 09:05:12 AM
Osage county has more land area than the State of Delaware. Delaware is 2nd smallest with Rhode Island being smaller.
Explains the small brain in our V.P.
Quote from: Conan71 on May 24, 2011, 09:06:53 AM
Explains the small brain in our V.P.
No, there must be some other reason. There are (at least were in the 60s & 70s) some reasonably smart people there at U of D. There was also the usual crowd in the Liberal Arts side of campus. I think that's where the VP went.
Quote from: Hoss on May 23, 2011, 07:44:07 PM
I'd much rather have Dick Faurot on doing coverage as primary.
I agree.
The Sunday evening, Travis said something that he followed up with by saying he'd been asked not to do that. Unfortunately, I missed what he said since I let most of the talk go in one ear and out the other. At least someone seems to be aware that things get too "exciting".
Quote from: Conan71 on May 23, 2011, 07:34:40 PM
Anyone else note the new metric they now include on storm tracking on the local TV? Number of people to be affected. Found that interesting.
That has more to do with storm tracking software that references a population database than anything a station is doing.
Given the heightened awareness about tornadoes with the tragedies in Tuscaloosa and now closer to home in Joplin, tonight looks to be setting up as about as nasty an evening as you can have as far as weather goes. The SPC doesn't typically categorize a HIGH risk very often, and moderate is fairly infrequent as well. But we are under the bullseye tonight. The first graphic is the general severe risk as of 10am CDT. The second is the tornado percentage graphic. 35 % is very high.
I implore everyone (including Sauerkraut, if he is indeed in town) to have a plan of action in case you hear the sirens tonight. If you have a NOAA weather radio (I have two) have them on and in the ALERT settting.
Shelter - Basement/safe room if you have one, interior room away from windows and external walls and use pillows and/or small mattresses for protoection if you don't, if you live in a mobile home, please seek other shelter. Many parks have their own common shelters; you would be wise to ask NOW. If nothing else, you'll know for the next time.
If, by some chance of fate you are outdoors or in your car, get out of your car and lie face down in the lowest area you can find.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/dsp/dsp.php
Message from the NWS decision support page:
Quote from: NWSTornado outbreak expected! Strong / long track tornados possible. Make safety plans now.
When they start using exclamations, that's when I start to take it seriously.
Quote from: OwassoPoke on May 24, 2011, 10:37:29 AM
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/dsp/dsp.php
Message from the NWS decision support page:
When they start using exclamations, that's when I start to take it seriously.
Same here.
How many of you are charging your flashlights right now?
Quote from: Gaspar on May 24, 2011, 10:45:05 AM
How many of you are charging your flashlights right now?
I'm at work, but I have several charged at home already. I may go pick up a weather radio over lunch.
Quote from: OwassoPoke on May 24, 2011, 10:53:17 AM
I'm at work, but I have several charged at home already. I may go pick up a weather radio over lunch.
I've actually got a hand-crank light/radio combo. My brother just recently got an Eton FR600 NOAA weather radio with a crank/light and solar power. It's pretty neat, but a little pricey. They have them at Radio shack for about 80 smackers.
Crap, every place I can think of in my house has an exterior wall. I was thinking about one of two closets I can get in with my dog and cat and they have mirrored glass sliding doors, not exactly something I want against my back. Both bathrooms are on west walls, interior hallway leads to the big glass rear wall typical in Lortondale construction.
QuoteI really used to like Channel 6 for storm coverage, but after a while Travis Meyers gets on my nerves. I'd much rather have Dick Faurot on doing coverage as primary.
I used to watch them also. They get into to much of a panic mode for me anymore. I watch channel 2 now. But then after while it doesn't matter because when a storm gets to close the satellite dish goes out!
Quote from: Conan71 on May 24, 2011, 11:19:41 AM
Crap, every place I can think of in my house has an exterior wall. I was thinking about one of two closets I can get in with my dog and cat and they have mirrored glass sliding doors, not exactly something I want against my back. Both bathrooms are on west walls, interior hallway leads to the big glass rear wall typical in Lortondale construction.
A Lortondale house is probably one of the last houses I'd want to be in if a tornado hit Tulsa.
Do you have one of those small hall closets with the bamboo "curtain"?
Quote from: rdj on May 24, 2011, 11:54:58 AM
A Lortondale house is probably one of the last houses I'd want to be in if a tornado hit Tulsa.
Do you have one of those small hall closets with the bamboo "curtain"?
Shelved and open front. Totally worthless as shelter. I've got another closet by the second bath, but it's close to the SW corner of the house. I've got one of the rare ones where the baths were not siamesed which saved on plumbing costs, they are actually on opposite ends of the house.
A Midland Meteorologist said "dude i dont think ive ever been this nervous about the weather"
Wonderful.
Quote from: bmuscotty on May 24, 2011, 11:22:43 AM
I used to watch them also. They get into to much of a panic mode for me anymore. I watch channel 2 now. But then after while it doesn't matter because when a storm gets to close the satellite dish goes out!
Same here. Travis has lost it so we have switched to Channel 2 for our weather coverage. We were already losing patience Travis, but the night of the refinery fire was when he finally jumped the shark for us.
I agree having Dick be the lead would be a much better approach.
Quote from: Ibanez on May 24, 2011, 12:32:16 PM
Same here. Travis has lost it so we have switched to Channel 2 for our weather coverage. We were already losing patience Travis, but the night of the refinery fire was when he finally jumped the shark for us.
I agree having Dick be the lead would be a much better approach.
He's just so much more calm during weather like this. I bet he felt stiffed when he got passed over for the lead meteo job. I understand the reasoning that Griffin wanted someone established, but Travis proved on Channel 8 that he could be over the top sometimes. Dick just reminds me a little of a younger Jim Giles with a little more humor. He's to the point and doesn't try to oversimplify.
Quote from: bmuscotty on May 24, 2011, 11:22:43 AM
after while it doesn't matter because when a storm gets to close the satellite dish goes out!
A tree on the other side of town can fall and knock out cable, so it's 6 of 1/half a dozen of the other.
Now might be the time to check out your Over-The-Air reception if you have an antenna.
Today is gonna be bad guys. Every single forecast model has this storm off the charts. Instability, wind shear, helicity, etc are all prime for a tornado outbreak. CAPE is very high and with the daytime heating to help boost convection, CIN (the inhibiting factor of CAPE) will be nonexistent. Those pictures that Hoss posted aren't up-to-date. SPC increased the tornado risk from 30% when they first issued the high risk to a 45% hatch area. That is very high. Hail risk also went up from 45% last night to 60%. This is like a Tuscaloosa event in Oklahoma. I'm predicting that storm initiation will start by 3-4p along I-35 but I wouldn't be surprised it started sooner closer to 2pm. Keep an eye on ALL severe weather warnings...especially severe storm warnings and tornado warnings. They only issue tornado warnings when they see strong rotation on radar, rotation on radar that is confirmed by storm spotters, or a confirmed tornado/funnel cloud.
If you don't have a weather radio, KRMG has the best weather reporting for public radio. They've been on the dot for several storms in the years past.
And for anyone who is interested.....
SPC Day 1 outlook
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SPC tornado risk
(http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1probotlk_1630_torn.gif)
SPC hail risk
(http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1probotlk_1630_hail.gif)
EHI 0-3km (CAPE + Helicity) @ 1900
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_EHI3_SURFACE.png)
CAPE @ 1900
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_CAPE_SURFACE.png)
Helicity 0-3km @ 1900
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_HLCY3_SURFACE.png)
Wind shear 850MB height
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_SHRM_850_MB.png)
Wind shear 500mb height
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_SHRM_500_MB.png)
Winds 850mb - notice the backing of winds along the frontal boundary and convergence at the dryline. Very classic.
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_WSPD_850_MB.png)
And surface mixing ratio
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_MXR_2_M_ABOVE_GROUND.png)
We'll get thru it- The weathermen are also wrong many times. The cold winter we had results in a active twister season because of the vast differences in air temps. The NW states still have huge amounts of snow on the ground and very cold air, when that cold air moves south and clashes with the warm gulf air storms fire up. As the season wears on and the cold air warms up there will not be as many storms.
Updated!
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 24, 2011, 01:08:23 PM
We'll get thru it- The weathermen are also wrong many times. The cold winter we had results in a active twister season because of the vast differences in air temps. The NW states still have huge amounts of snow on the ground and very cold air, when that cold air moves south and clashes with the warm gulf air storms fire up. As the season wears on and the cold air warms up there will not be as many storms.
Just stop it already...wow.
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express too?
Quote from: Hoss on May 24, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
Just stop it already...wow.
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express too?
Too ritzy for him. I heard he lives in one of the No Tell Motels on Admiral by Dreamland.
Quote from: dbacks fan on May 24, 2011, 01:52:28 PM
Too ritzy for him. I heard he lives in one of the No Tell Motels on Admiral by Dreamland.
don't diss that part of town..I live down the street. LOL.
Quote from: TurismoDreamin on May 24, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
Today is gonna be bad guys. Every single forecast model has this storm off the charts. Instability, wind shear, helicity, etc are all prime for a tornado outbreak. CAPE is very high and with the daytime heating to help boost convection, CIN (the inhibiting factor of CAPE) will be nonexistent. Those pictures that Hoss posted aren't up-to-date. SPC increased the tornado risk from 30% when they first issued the high risk to a 45% hatch area. That is very high. Hail risk also went up from 45% last night to 60%. This is like a Tuscaloosa event in Oklahoma. I'm predicting that storm initiation will start by 3-4p along I-35 but I wouldn't be surprised it started sooner closer to 2pm. Keep an eye on ALL severe weather warnings...especially severe storm warnings and tornado warnings. They only issue tornado warnings when they see strong rotation on radar, rotation on radar that is confirmed by storm spotters, or a confirmed tornado/funnel cloud.
If you don't have a weather radio, KRMG has the best weather reporting for public radio. They've been on the dot for several storms in the years past.
And for anyone who is interested.....
SPC Day 1 outlook
(http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk_1630.gif)
SPC tornado risk
(http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1probotlk_1630_torn.gif)
SPC hail risk
(http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1probotlk_1630_hail.gif)
EHI 0-3km (CAPE + Helicity) @ 1900
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_EHI3_SURFACE.png)
CAPE @ 1900
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_CAPE_SURFACE.png)
Helicity 0-3km @ 1900
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_HLCY3_SURFACE.png)
Wind shear 850MB height
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_SHRM_850_MB.png)
Wind shear 500mb height
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_SHRM_500_MB.png)
Winds 850mb - notice the backing of winds along the frontal boundary and convergence at the dryline. Very classic.
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_WSPD_850_MB.png)
And surface mixing ratio
(http://www.twisterdata.com/data/models/ruc/255/maps/2011/05/24/12/RUC_255_2011052412_F12_MXR_2_M_ABOVE_GROUND.png)
Well, they were up-to-date when I posted them.
8)
Quote from: Hoss on May 24, 2011, 01:54:26 PM
don't diss that part of town..I live down the street. LOL.
I lived just west of the UAW Hall at Pine and Memorial for 7 years. Oklahoma and N78th E Ave.
Here we go! Storms popping up in western OK by Clinton.
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southplains_loop.php
I feel like the entire city is having a stormgasm right now. Prepare, don't freak out and make she who must be obeyed tell me to find a place to put the pets right now.
Besides, the sigtor parameters aren't favoring Tulsa. We're more likely to see a strong, long lived tornado in SE Oklahoma. And it may turn out that there's too much forcing to favor tornadoes at all. Large hail and damaging straight-line winds are a near certainty in the general area, however.
It looks like our chances for a tornado are still good, but have dropped from when I checked it earlier in the day. This morning were in a 3.9 area for a > F2 tornado. Unless their map is screwed up we're now in a 0.0 for that.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/dsp/dsp.php
Quote from: Ibanez on May 24, 2011, 03:39:08 PM
It looks like our chances for a tornado are still good, but have dropped from when I checked it earlier in the day. This morning were in a 3.9 area for a > F2 tornado. Unless their map is screwed up we're now in a 0.0 for that.
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tsa/dsp/dsp.php
My concern isn't so much that we've dropped in chances; the chance will still be there. Now they're pushing it back to the '8pm-1am' timeframe, which always scares me. Tornadoes at nighttime. Just cannot be much more dangerous, even if you can see the transformers popping...
I also noticed today when I went home for lunch that Dr. Forbes of TWC was using his inane 'TORCON' index. He put ours right around 9 of 10...
QuoteBesides, the sigtor parameters aren't favoring Tulsa.
I thought alot of it had to do with the amount of sunshine we get. Sun causes the moisture to come out of the ground and into the air making it unstable. Or something like that. We haven't see that much sun here today at least where I live. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quote from: bmuscotty on May 24, 2011, 03:41:52 PM
I thought alot of it had to do with the amount of sunshine we get. Sun causes the moisture to come out of the ground and into the air making it unstable. Or something like that. We haven't see that much sun here today at least where I live. Correct me if I'm wrong.
No, you're correct, but the optimum heating for the day is right now and the sun has been out more the latter half of the afternoon than the former half. But not having it out all day will help I think.
And it's actually not making the moisture come out of the ground..the moisture already is existing in the low to mid levels. The sun is the fuel for the engine. It coerces lifting and mixing.
I was way off. Thanks for letting me know!! Everybody be safe no matter what happens today.
Quote from: Hoss on May 24, 2011, 03:41:04 PM
My concern isn't so much that we've dropped in chances; the chance will still be there. Now they're pushing it back to the '8pm-1am' timeframe, which always scares me. Tornadoes at nighttime. Just cannot be much more dangerous, even if you can see the transformers popping...
I also noticed today when I went home for lunch that Dr. Forbes of TWC was using his inane 'TORCON' index. He put ours right around 9 of 10...
True, but if we have to have them, I would much rather they be < F2 than > F2
Well chances are back up for a > F2. Everyone be safe out there!
Yowza. Lots of damage from the cell just now moving toward Moore.
FMC got a lot of hail at her house in Midwest City. Looks like snow from the photos she sent.
Good grief, watching the coverage on CNN, it looks like this system is going to run right up 44 to Joplin.
Bad one. Got caught by the one that came through Newcastle, then across Norman/Moore. There was some big hail - not as big as last year, but would have broken a window. Actually, not really caught. Went chasing after.
I've read that the Governor of OK has said there's an emergency but I've not seen much of her.
Now I don't watch a bunch of local news but I figured I'd see something on my Twitter feed, FB, here...
Are the "they" hiding her so she doesn't Sally Kern herself?
Quote from: Townsend on May 25, 2011, 11:13:09 AM
I've read that the Governor of OK has said there's an emergency but I've not seen much of her.
Now I don't watch a bunch of local news but I figured I'd see something on my Twitter feed, FB, here...
Are the "they" hiding her so she doesn't Sally Kern herself?
I LOL'd at that... plus one for you, sir..
Quote from: Townsend on May 25, 2011, 11:13:09 AM
I've read that the Governor of OK has said there's an emergency but I've not seen much of her.
Are the "they" hiding her so she doesn't Sally Kern herself?
Maybe she had another dinner date with Palin she had to go to?
Is there anyone in the state with a brain that cares about Fallin?? She finally did her "doody" today and called an emergency.
Quote from: patric on May 25, 2011, 11:15:55 AM
Maybe she had another dinner date with Palin she had to go to?
Palin's too busy moving to Sottsdale right now.
It was grim elsewhere but in Tulsa not much happened, in my neighborhood we had some wind & hail, but mostly it was just a hard rain. Sapulpa, Jenks & Glenpool got hit harder. Our area lucked out, but in the morning I did see a few tree branchs around the streets.
Man, I didn't know Google had gotten so fast with the street view updates! ;)
(I keed, I keed)
Quote from: dbacks fan on May 25, 2011, 06:09:54 PM
Palin's too busy moving to Sottsdale right now.
There's a "fire in her belly" and the Alaskan sewers couldn't handle the heat.
Quote from: Townsend on May 27, 2011, 11:13:19 AM
There's a "fire in her belly" and the Alaskan sewers couldn't handle the heat.
Well with where she is moving it's probably septic. And I mispelled it, it should be Snottsdale.
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on May 25, 2011, 06:06:17 PM
Is there anyone in the state with a brain that cares about Fallin?? She finally did her "doody" today and called an emergency.
I support Mary Fallin she's doing a darn good job, since Henry left office the economy improved alot, everything is upbeat, and the unemployment rate is falling every month. I'll tell ya something else I like about Mary Fallin she reversed many of Gov. Henrys paroles and pardons. Oklahoma does not need any criminals being released into the streets early, keep 'em locked up!. Good Job Gov. Fallin!!! :)
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 27, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
I support Mary Fallin she's doing a darn good job, since Henry left office the economy improved alot, everything is upbeat, and the unemployment rate is falling every month. I'll tell ya something else I like about Mary Fallin she reversed many of Gov. Henrys paroles and pardons. Oklahoma does not need any criminals being released into the streets early, keep 'em locked up!. Good Job Gov. Fallin!!! :)
If you don't get syphilis treated fast enough it can cause brain damage.
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 27, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
I support Mary Fallin she's doing a darn good job, since Henry left office the economy improved alot, everything is upbeat, and the unemployment rate is falling every month. I'll tell ya something else I like about Mary Fallin she reversed many of Gov. Henrys paroles and pardons. Oklahoma does not need any criminals being released into the streets early, keep 'em locked up!. Good Job Gov. Fallin!!! :)
Um, I don't think the Oklahoma governor can reverse executive paroles and pardons. You can violate your parole and get tossed back in. As well, the governor does not have final say on parole so far as I know, that is reserved for the pardon and parole board and they can act without the governor's approval, FAIK.
The economy bouncing back is not the tangible result of anything Fallin has done, just as much as Gov. Henry didn't have anything to do with a downturn which was the result of the national economy slowing. In case you haven't noticed, oil prices have been increasing over the last year and Oklahoma's manufacturing sector is heavily vested in the oil industry. Higher oil prices means there's more drilling activity. That helps drive demand for all sorts of ancillary drilling, delivery, and processing equipment which is made in our state.
Thanks Townsend, I just peed my pants.
I like corn!
(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/26/128669483207276201.jpg)
Quote from: sauerkraut on May 27, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
I support Mary Fallin she's doing a darn good job, since Henry left office the economy improved alot, everything is upbeat, and the unemployment rate is falling every month. I'll tell ya something else I like about Mary Fallin she reversed many of Gov. Henrys paroles and pardons. Oklahoma does not need any criminals being released into the streets early, keep 'em locked up!. Good Job Gov. Fallin!!! :)
(http://demotivate.me/mediafiles/full/4162010103910AM_doublefacepalm.jpg)
I guess that comment in the post above is better than a tripple "facepalm" thing. Anyhoo it looks like the sour weather is a thing of the past. This uncoming week looks like it'll be a goodie. The Holiday weekend is going to be dry.
Conan,
You don't think maybe he was kidding?? That would have been a perfect facetious post! (I don't know him as well as many here, so will defer to other's thoughts on this.)
http://www.fox23.com/content/rant/story/FOX-RANT-Pre-empting-primetime/pOC-XrQjlkeDxLQ7EbQs8g.cspx
Any reason why a DVR couldn't record a national program without local weather interrupting it?
Why DVR a show with local weather interruptions if it's a national broadcast?
1st world problem, I know, but it makes sense to me.
I was just glad these jokers weren't carrying the NBA playoffs....hoooray for TNT and ESPN....
A friend told me she wanted to see Carrie Underwood on Letterman only to find Travis reporting on routine storms for an hour and a half....
Yep it happened with Two and a half Men. I DVRd it and went to watch it the next day and saw all of six minutes. It then went to the Travaganza for the rest of the half hour.
Now I am sure you are thinking. Hey just go to CBS.com and watch it there. I did and less than fifteen minutes into it, a advertisement sent the picture into a black screen with just sound.
What the he!!? I'll catch that episode in reruns.
Quote from: DolfanBob on May 03, 2012, 11:48:07 AM
Yep it happened with Two and a half Men. I DVRd it and went to watch it the next day and saw all of six minutes. It then went to the Travaganza for the rest of the half hour.
Now I am sure you are thinking. Hey just go to CBS.com and watch it there. I did and less than fifteen minutes into it, a advertisement sent the picture into a black screen with just sound.
What the he!!? I'll catch that episode in reruns.
bit torrents are great
Quote from: Hoss on May 03, 2012, 12:16:57 PM
Come July not so much...
Okay, I've been buried in books for the past couple of months, what is happening in July?
Quote from: custosnox on May 03, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
Okay, I've been buried in books for the past couple of months, what is happening in July?
Duh, my birthday falls in that month. Get with it cust...
Quote from: custosnox on May 03, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
Okay, I've been buried in books for the past couple of months, what is happening in July?
http://gizmodo.com/5893355/net-neutralitys-death-rattle-starts-july-12
Quote from: Hoss on May 03, 2012, 02:18:28 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5893355/net-neutralitys-death-rattle-starts-july-12
Cox already monitors it (I know of someone who has had their cable cut off over it). Even if they change their protocols, people still find a way around it. First it was P2P, now it's Torrents. This time next year, they may come up with another system to beat the system. Not that I'm advocating the full on use of pirating, but it just seems stupid to me that you can record it with a DVR and watch it whenever you want, but if you download it to do the same it's illegal, even if it's on a channel that is publicity broadcast
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Quote from: custosnox on May 03, 2012, 06:15:53 PM
Cox already monitors it (I know of someone who has had their cable cut off over it). Even if they change their protocols, people still find a way around it. First it was P2P, now it's Torrents. This time next year, they may come up with another system to beat the system. Not that I'm advocating the full on use of pirating, but it just seems stupid to me that you can record it with a DVR and watch it whenever you want, but if you download it to do the same it's illegal, even if it's on a channel that is publicity broadcast
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They only monitor if you are serving up torrents as a seeder (no giggling now). If you download it, they didn't go after you. This indicates now they will start doing that. Cox sofar though isn't on the list of ISPs that has bought in. Yet.
Cox does indeed go after just downloading especially on there mid and high tiers. Not only do they monitor downloads they will shut you off even when downloading legally shared materials.
Granted when they come out and you prove you where downloading torrents from evil sources like TU and Ubuntu they might turn your services on for a small little $25 electronic re-connection fee. That on a business account with supposedly no restrictions. Oh Sure you can run an FTP server for clients to upload and download collateral. Three weeks later, all incoming ports are blocked come to find out it was against there TOC. Yeah Cox stinks, ATT stinks and sadly there is no real alternative.
Quote from: godboko71 on May 06, 2012, 11:59:42 PM
Cox does indeed go after just downloading especially on there mid and high tiers. Not only do they monitor downloads they will shut you off even when downloading legally shared materials.
Granted when they come out and you prove you where downloading torrents from evil sources like TU and Ubuntu they might turn your services on for a small little $25 electronic re-connection fee. That on a business account with supposedly no restrictions. Oh Sure you can run an FTP server for clients to upload and download collateral. Three weeks later, all incoming ports are blocked come to find out it was against there TOC. Yeah Cox stinks, ATT stinks and sadly there is no real alternative.
Only go after downloading of torrents that way. I don't seed, nor download torrents and don't have the need to.
Quote from: Hoss on May 07, 2012, 12:10:51 AM
Only go after downloading of torrents that way. I don't seed, nor download torrents and don't have the need to.
Like I said, I like to grab shows that I missed. Oh, and had to grab the avengers so I could make a gif from a few frames ;D